#chaoss-community: monthly CHAOSS meeting July 2018

Meeting summary

1. Conferences (GeorgLink, 16:03:11)
   1. CHAOSScon: nothing new. Schedule is set. Working on securing sponsorship. (GeorgLink, 16:04:38)
   2. currently 37 people registered for CHAOSScon (GeorgLink, 16:05:56)
   3. we have several sessions at the Open Source Summit North America full list: https://chaoss.community/community/ (GeorgLink, 16:09:47)
   4. Other upcoming conferences: Open Source Summit Europe; Mozilla Festival; OpenStack Summit; Grace Hopper. (GeorgLink, 16:14:38)
   5. Why do we organize to go to conferences? Because many of us go anyway and it is little overhead to also promote CHAOSS and spread the word. Also, conferences are good for building community and getting new people engaged. (GeorgLink, 16:17:16)
   
   
2. Metrics (GeorgLink, 16:21:17)
   1. Discussion about our approach for defining and evaluating metrics. Should we have a more structured and empirical approach? Maybe a set of questions to be asked in the wild about specific metrics, how they are used and applied? (GeorgLink, 16:22:24)
   2. How can we 'scientifically' claim that our metrics do what we think they do? Defining metrics is basically coming up with hypotheses; Evaluating the metrics requires a second phase in the process. -- Maybe we are not there yet. How do we determine that metrics measure what they are supposed to measure? How do we know that they are valuable to people? (GeorgLink, 16:24:23)
   3. The discussion boils down to an argument for our process of how we determine which metrics we include in our categories. (GeorgLink, 16:30:41)
   4. The D&I workgroup has defined its own process that includes documenting the process, include references, and have expert validation. (GeorgLink, 16:42:21)
   5. Metrics to have value to non-developers, we need good stories around the metric; such meaningful metrics might have to be complex and composed of several metrics. (GeorgLink, 16:43:06)
   6. metrics are not telling the full story but they can provide an indication for where to investigate qualitatively. (GeorgLink, 16:47:02)
   7. How can we overcome the gap between metrics and their interpretation? (GeorgLink, 16:47:32)
   
   
3. Software Committee updates (GeorgLink, 16:51:24)
   1. New GrimoireLab versions coming with several new features: check them out. (GeorgLink, 16:51:45)
   2. Daniel German will share a new paper about Cregit. (GeorgLink, 16:53:07)
   3. Augur has an easier process for new users and several other new features. (GeorgLink, 16:53:29)
   4. For new software releases, we can use the CHAOSS website blog: https://github.com/chaoss/website (GeorgLink, 16:55:45)
   
   
4. OpenStack survey (GeorgLink, 16:56:01)
   1. We can be involved in the data analysis, requires a NDA with the OpenStack Foundation. (GeorgLink, 16:56:44)
   2. the survey will hopefully go live next week and the results should be analyzed by November for the OpenStack Summit :-) (GeorgLink, 16:57:59)
   
   
5. miscellaneous (GeorgLink, 17:00:01)
   1. shutdown wiki ... ? (GeorgLink, 17:00:16)
   2. We want to rename the mailing list to chaoss@lists.... (the move to group.io is cancelled) (GeorgLink, 17:03:40)

Action items

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People present (lines said)

1. GeorgLink (28)
2. collabot (3)