=============================== #lfn-meeting: LFN TAC bi-weekly =============================== Meeting started by rpaik at 13:59:11 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/lfn-meeting/2018/lfn-meeting.2018-05-09-13.59.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Tapio Tallgren (ttallgren, 14:00:09) * edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 14:00:58) * Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 14:01:02) * Rossella Sblendido (rossella_s, 14:01:06) * Frank Brockners (frankbrockners, 14:01:15) * Andre Fredette, Red Hat (afredette, 14:02:36) * Wenjing Chu (rpaik, 14:02:41) * Tim Irnich (timirnich, 14:02:41) * Rajesh Gadiyar Intel (RajeshGadiyar, 14:04:20) * Wenjing Chu (wenjing, 14:04:24) * mazin gilbert (ATT,ONAP) (gilbert, 14:04:30) * Eric Debeau, Orange proxy for Jamil Chawki (EricDebeau, 14:05:14) * TAC governance documents (rpaik, 14:07:04) * LINK: https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10544 Feedback to Board about timelines for gov docs (dfarrell07, 14:07:38) * LINK: https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10544/ (rpaik, 14:07:39) * edwarnicke notes that this acknowledges the action item and list items that needs to be worked on (rpaik, 14:09:31) * Jason Hunt, IBM (JasonHunt, 14:11:44) * discussion on an 8-week timeframe for finalizing governance documents (this would be June 13th) (rpaik, 14:16:01) * Anders Rosengren (anders, 14:20:08) * LINK: https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10248/ (rpaik, 14:25:11) * recommendation to have TAC projects community representation to the GB (rpaik, 14:26:52) * gilbert asks is the concern that the technical communities will have different views or we need to have more weight to the technical communities? (rpaik, 14:32:04) * Anders expresses that TAC and Projects may have different views. (edwarnicke, 14:33:25) * LINK: https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10544/9 Edited gov docs recommendation to make July 11th explicit (dfarrell07, 14:37:35) * proxy for Rajesh (rpaik, 14:43:05) * VOTE: Voted on "does the TAC approve https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10544/9 as a recommendation to the GB?" Results are, +1: 14 (rpaik, 14:43:14) * LINK: https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10248/7 (edwarnicke, 14:43:42) * proxy for Rajesh (rpaik, 14:45:29) * VOTE: Voted on "does the TAC approve https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10248/7 as a recommendation for TAC representation at the GB?" Results are, +1: 14 (rpaik, 14:45:52) * ACTION: rpaik/phrobb to communicate above recommendations to the GB (rpaik, 14:47:04) * frankbrockners points out that the TSCs don't typically think about things in terms of exact money amounts, more goals/ideas/actions, so proposed process would be fairly different (dfarrell07, 14:50:53) * frankbrockners suggests that it might make more sense to have a request for more generic "things", vs trying to always put things in terms of money (dfarrell07, 14:51:55) * new budget request (rpaik, 14:53:02) * timirnich points out that it's a matter of who translates ideas into money, and question is who should do that translation, likely not the TSCs (dfarrell07, 14:53:10) * budget/resource request should be worked with community/project PM's (rpaik, 14:54:00) * edwarnicke points out that some things, like pay or vendor quotes, shouldn't be publically translated into money figures, sould happen later in private (dfarrell07, 14:54:01) * suggestion the term from "budget" to "resource" (rpaik, 14:54:36) * discussion on whether TAC is an effective forum to address budget requests (rpaik, 14:56:46) * edwarnicke talks about proposal in 10545 that takes TAC out of the decision pipeline a bit to lower overhead, TAC is for cross-community sync, Board A&P is for decision yes/no (dfarrell07, 14:56:57) * LINK: https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10545/ (edwarnicke, 14:57:27) * lots of discussion about role of TAC and Board in budget decision process (dfarrell07, 15:00:27) * one problem seems to be that TAC may not have insight into full budget, dfarrell07 would like to see solving that via having more open budget overall (dfarrell07, 15:01:11) * budget discussion to continue over email (rpaik, 15:01:17) Meeting ended at 15:01:27 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * phrobb * rpaik/phrobb to communicate above recommendations to the GB * rpaik * rpaik/phrobb to communicate above recommendations to the GB People present (lines said) --------------------------- * rpaik (27) * dfarrell07 (14) * collabot` (12) * edwarnicke (9) * timirnich (4) * ttallgren (4) * frankbrockners (3) * JasonHunt (3) * afredette (3) * rossella_s (3) * gilbert (3) * wenjing (3) * kennypaul (2) * Guest93024 (2) * EricDebeau (2) * Davide (2) * Greg_ (1) * tykeal (1) * RajeshGadiyar (1) * anders (1) * phrobb (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4