14:02:02 <phrobb> #startmeeting LFN_TAC
14:02:02 <collabot> Meeting started Wed Aug 29 14:02:02 2018 UTC.  The chair is phrobb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:02:02 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'lfn_tac'
14:03:04 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners
14:03:16 <ttallgren> #info Tapio Tallgren
14:03:26 <JasonHunt> #info Jason Hunt, IBM
14:03:53 <edwarnicke> What is the meeting link?  The one on the wiki page is not working...
14:04:02 <kennypaul> Bridge  https://zoom.us/s/468557487
14:04:39 <frankbrockners> The correct bridge is https://zoom.us/j/560486345
14:04:49 <frankbrockners> Could folks jump over to this one?
14:05:24 <TNadeau> hi there
14:05:42 <frankbrockners> https://zoom.us/s/468557487 is outdated - that was the old invite from Ray Paik
14:06:08 <TNadeau> there are actually 3 bridges. You want 468557487
14:06:38 <CaseyLF> There is currently 7 people on https://zoom.us/j/468557487
14:06:48 <GregElkinbard> #info Greg Elkinbard
14:06:58 <TNadeau> Please delete the other bridges you have for the LFN meeting
14:07:03 <TNadeau> they are expired/defunct
14:07:26 <TNadeau> everyone please move to 468557487
14:07:39 <phrobb> Yes, As Frank said, please get people to come to the zoom meeting https://zoom.us/j/560486345
14:07:44 <ttallgren> Phil is on 560486345
14:08:57 <TNadeau> correction: everyone please move to 560486345
14:09:57 <phrobb> #chair kennypaul CaseyLF
14:09:57 <collabot> Current chairs: CaseyLF kennypaul phrobb
14:10:37 <kennypaul> #action kennypaul send new bridge, kill ghosts and point to wiki for zoom info
14:10:38 <GregElkinbard> wed page instructions for irc are wrong
14:10:50 <kennypaul> https://zoom.us/j/560486345
14:11:15 <kennypaul> frankbrockners: just updated the wiki
14:11:31 <CaseyLF> #topic Agenda
14:16:10 <CaseyLF> #info Greg asked that the topic of Budget Deliverables be added to the schedule.
14:16:13 <CaseyLF> #topic Nexus IQ and Security Scanning
14:17:11 <dmcbride_> #info phrobb says that ONAP dependency vulnerabilities will hinder ONAP CII badging
14:17:22 <CaseyLF> #info It would be a good idea to have the security teams across all projects.
14:17:41 <CaseyLF> #info Sonotype do not want the results of their scanning to be public.
14:20:27 <CaseyLF> #info The CLM running has been shut off for about a week now.  We are working with them to resolve their concerns.
14:20:35 <CaseyLF> #chair dmcbride_
14:20:35 <collabot> Current chairs: CaseyLF dmcbride_ kennypaul phrobb
14:21:31 <CaseyLF> #info edwarnicke has concerns that this change doesn't fit in the Open Source project space.
14:21:32 <dmcbride_> #info edwarnicke questions suitability of this tool for an open source project
14:21:51 <dmcbride_> #undo
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14:22:00 <CaseyLF> Go ahead David.  :)
14:23:32 <dmcbride_> #info Sonotype has implemented a build flag which will prevent proprietary data from being logged
14:30:21 <dmcbride_> #info phrobb suggests a TAC working group to review alternatives to Sonotype
14:31:06 <kennypaul> #info @GregElkinbard suggests looking at WhateSource
14:31:31 <CaseyLF> #action Kenny/Casey to find out the specific product name that we are leveraging from Sonotype.
14:31:54 <CaseyLF> #undo
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14:32:06 <CaseyLF> #action Kenny/Casey to find out the specific product name that we are leveraging from Sonotype and send that to the TAC.
14:35:22 <kennypaul> #link https://www.blackducksoftware.com/sites/default/files/images/Downloads/Reports/USA/ForresterWave-Rpt.pdf
14:37:29 <CaseyLF> #info Working with CII presents an issue if you have more than one repo.
14:39:17 <kennypaul> #info workgroup would review available solutions, work with the projects and putting together a POC
14:40:16 <TNadeau> sounds ok
14:40:30 <kennypaul> #action kenny/phill to start the conversation
14:40:52 <CaseyLF> #topic Cross Project Testing
14:41:55 <kennypaul> #info "conversation" in action item regarding the creation of a workgroup
14:45:03 <CaseyLF> #info Jamil states that their has been conversation regarding Cross Project Testing and that he will be ready with a more formal presentation next week.
14:45:46 <CaseyLF> #info He asked if anyone had some feedback regarding the topic.
14:46:11 <TNadeau> while x-project testing (like opnfv) is great, I agree that a loose coupling is a good idea otherwise we create a house of cards
14:46:44 <kennypaul> #info GregElkinbard requests to be added to the group participating.
14:51:30 <TNadeau> people need more coffee? 8)
14:52:14 <kennypaul> #info from zoom chat- From Brian to Everyone: (07:50 AM)
14:52:14 <kennypaul> onap is a heavy user of ODL, onap has a set of FD.io base test VNFs - are there any other LFN development projects involved ?
14:52:43 <kennypaul> #info from zoom chat- From Greg Elkinbard to Everyone: (07:51 AM)
14:52:43 <kennypaul> If OPNFV initiative delivered a set of portable lightweight tests outside of OPNFV CI pipeline it would be very useful
14:52:48 <TNadeau> opnfv also has a set of base VNFs no?
14:52:56 <TNadeau> (imports them that is)
14:54:05 <kennypaul> #info Jamil will send a prop[osal when ready
14:55:07 <GregElkinbard> We would love to use OPNFV testing in our project. But installer support would be a heavy burden for us
14:57:56 <kennypaul> #topic TAC chair responsibilities
14:58:28 <kennypaul> #info edwarnicke suggest clarity on TSC meeting attendance
15:00:24 <kennypaul> #info discussion regarding attendance requirements
15:03:15 <kennypaul> #info last bullet is specifically to "represent all of the technical communities to the board"
15:03:54 <kennypaul> #info it is an attempt to address the issue of the Board declining to have TAC members on the Board.
15:04:35 <kennypaul> #info brian freeman suggests change the 5th bullet - and add a second slide on what we really think should happen is direct project TSC to the board
15:06:23 <kennypaul> #action CaseyLF / kennypaul to flesh out the specifics and circulate via email
15:07:24 <TNadeau> +1 on Ed's last suggestion.  We might need to go back/forth to figure out a solution. This proposal right now seems unrealistic
15:08:15 <kennypaul> #info topic budget deliverables
15:09:27 <kennypaul> #info question about infrastructure
15:10:04 <kennypaul> #action LF to post budget deliverables and deadlines and post it on the wiki
15:11:25 <kennypaul> #info A&F committee mostly on holiday - have not met.
15:12:34 <kennypaul> #endmeeting