13:58:43 <ChrisPriceAB> #startmeeting OPNFV TSC
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13:58:50 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair rpaik
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13:58:50 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB rpaik
14:00:36 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic roll call
14:00:41 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price
14:00:58 <rprakash> #info Prakash
14:01:05 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners
14:01:53 <ulik> #info Uli Kleber
14:02:18 <cdub> #info chris wright
14:03:16 <rajeev> #info Rajeev Koodli
14:03:34 <dlenrow> #info dlenrow
14:03:38 <julien_ZTE> #info Julien
14:03:46 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic approval of previous minutes
14:03:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #agree previous minutes approved
14:04:14 <tallgren> #info Tapio Tallgren (Nokia)
14:05:12 <arturt> #info Artur Tyloch
14:06:03 <iben> #info Iben Rodriguez (Spirent)
14:06:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Agenda Bashing
14:06:53 <fuqiao> #info fuqiao
14:07:01 <Wenjing> #info Wenjing
14:07:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #info topic to discuss the project proposal and reviews
14:08:22 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan
14:09:47 <dlenrow> Is there anybody else on who is prepared and expecting to present for a project creation review today?
14:09:59 <dlenrow> Yardstick ready to present?
14:10:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Linux Foundation data center hardware update
14:10:32 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Konstantine states the wiring is done in the labs.  Power up should be completed today
14:11:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there have been delays with some power connectors and unfamilliarity of the hardware and needed components.
14:11:49 <rpaik> #info HW ready for dry run by the end of the week
14:12:00 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the hardware will be accessible for Jenkins set-up early next week.
14:12:51 <ChrisPriceAB> #info fatih asks about availability of build resources.  Nightly jobs and commit jobs are currently under-resourced.
14:14:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #info frankbrockners outlines the availability of one set of servers for build and merge activities.
14:14:36 <tomnadeau> ChrisPriceAB - is there an agenda for this meeting that you could paste in here?
14:14:53 <frankbrockners> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/tsc
14:14:53 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/TSC
14:15:11 <ChrisPriceAB> #info meeting agenda can be found on the tsc page.
14:19:29 <rpaik> #info if you need access to the LF datacenter HW, please contact ChrisPriceAB, trevor_intel, frankbrockners
14:24:27 <Parviz> #info Parviz Yegani
14:25:16 <Wenjing> What is the Jenkins issue to some of the labs?
14:25:41 <bryan_att> wenjing: connectivity; the slave is throwing a java error
14:26:10 <bryan_att> what I have heard at least
14:27:30 <rpaik> #info Ericsson lab could be used as a backup for the LF lab for build & deploy activities.
14:28:41 <rpaik> #info frankbrockners to work with the Ericsson team to try to run RC1 activities in the Ericsson lab
14:29:10 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Release diagram update
14:30:26 <ChrisPriceAB> #info HKirksey_ outlines the diagram selection after the previous discussion meeting.  The concepts captured by frankbrockners proposal have been worked on for the Arno graphic.
14:36:22 <rpaik> #info suggestion to replace the term “roadmap”
14:37:14 <rpaik> #info suggestion to add OVR under OpenContrail
14:39:03 <rpaik> #info replace “HW acceleration” with “dataplane accleration”
14:39:43 <dlenrow> #info remove specific references to future platforms and make it more general e.g. "Other Hypervisors in future"
14:42:07 <aricg> preliminary stats for contributions in each repo: https://build.opnfv.org/releases/
14:42:31 <dlenrow> OpenContrail, Xen, Ceph, ONOS, Cloudstack, Docker, OpenPower  do not have specific future plans AFAIK
14:42:49 <rpaik> #info only include components that are in the project pipeline
14:45:19 <tomnadeau> it does no one any favors including upstream components that are not integrated, or planned as part of any accepted project.  It sets the wrong expectations in the marketplace that these things will be done.
14:48:19 <rpaik> #info openstack should extend all the way to network virt. control
14:48:29 <dlenrow> cdub: +1
14:49:25 <cdub> dlenrow: just watching the clock and getting that anxious feeling ;)
14:50:26 <dlenrow> #action heather to post slides on OPNFV wiki
14:50:37 <rpaik> #info put the diagram on the Arno page and collect feedback via email on Friday
14:52:02 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV board meeting update to the TSC
14:52:08 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair dlenrow
14:52:08 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dlenrow rpaik
14:52:25 <trevor_intel> Who is boss_mc (voted in functest meeting)?
14:52:55 <B_Smith_> is there a link for Arno page
14:54:45 <julien_ZTE> #info link https://wiki.opnfv.org/releases/arno
14:56:44 <dneary> On the Community page, it would be really good to have someone who is involved in ETSI NFV to document interlock opportunities and link to relevant lists & web pages for ETSI NFV, and to have some community information for OVS, DPDK, libvirt and other projects we will care about
14:58:13 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV meeting tools and logistics
14:58:24 <cdub> trevor_intel: /whois boss_mc shows Andy Caldwell
14:58:26 <frankbrockners> #link http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2015/opnfv-meeting.2015-04-02-18.00.html
14:58:48 <ChrisPriceAB> #info frankbrockners had an IRC meeting to discuss the topic which was not attended greatly.  Minutes in the above link.
14:59:26 <ChrisPriceAB> #info key takeaways, we have many meetings and many that require audio.  This makes things difficult to attend, audio constrains the availability of tools.
15:00:42 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the number of meetings will increase with new projects making the use of audio meetings non-sustainable.
15:01:55 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the team reccomends some projects moving to IRC only meetings to see if it works well for them, with an eye on making this the default options for OPNFV meetings.
15:02:53 <rpaik> #info will need to investigate IRC is a viable option globally (may need to setup something like webchat.opnfv.org)
15:03:08 <dneary> Can I suggest a moratorium for new meetings for non-Arno related projects for the rest of April?
15:03:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #info bryan_att indicates this will not reduce the # of meetings.
15:03:43 <dneary> I mean: no regular meetings not related to Arno
15:04:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #info frankbrockners accepts that but adds that members can follow multiple meetings.
15:04:10 <dneary> With one exception for an OpenStack related meeting due to the proximity of the Design Summit
15:04:22 <cdub> dneary: +1
15:04:28 * ChrisPriceAB there's always an exception!
15:05:00 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, One could argue that OpenStack blue-prints should be discussed in the IRC only OpenStack Telco working group meeting
15:05:09 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, So it wouldn't be a phone meeting anyway
15:06:47 <tomnadeau> can we please stick to the meeting agenda? 8)
15:07:20 <julien_ZTE> #info besides the resouces(GTM) to support the projects, the time slot is also very very narrow for the team to choose.
15:07:36 <tallgren> ?1
15:07:41 <bryan_att> OK, it was a key point that I did not want to leave as an unchallenged summary - I have a different opinion and organizational effectiveness is a key topic
15:07:41 <tallgren> +1
15:08:30 <cdub> and adopt a cultural shift which is projects don't automatically set up a weekly meeting
15:10:03 <rajeev> some projects can be moved to IRC. I guess consensus in each project can decide
15:11:27 <bryan_att> we are not at the stage which we can shift to IRC e.g. in the cases that we are looking at architectural decomposition of goals and use cases - this is an abstract discussion that does not fit to pure IRC. we need diagrams and dialog via speech. Experts with long open source project experience may have learned how to address these type of topics via IRC, or
15:11:28 <bryan_att> maybe they are just *beyond them*... but that's where we are\
15:11:32 <rpaik> #info ChrisPraiceAB mentions that another issue is the quality of meeting minutes
15:12:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV award program review and approval
15:12:45 <bryan_att> how about a prize for meeting minutes takers?
15:13:05 <bryan_att> seriously - if you want to encourage better minutes, give a payback
15:13:07 <cdub> oops, did we lose ray?
15:13:25 <cdub> too bad this wasn't IRC only ;)
15:16:48 * ChrisPriceAB :P cdub
15:16:58 <bryan_att> that sounds good
15:18:28 <dneary> bryan_att, I wonder whether extrinsic motivation will work for minute taking
15:19:35 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, Open nominations, a nomination committee that short-lists, then vote on the MVP similar to ODL
15:19:39 <rajeev> +1
15:19:46 <cdub> i think we should open wide for vote
15:20:00 <bryan_att> you have to encourage people - not everyone gets the intrinsic value - they have to have the experience first and a carrot helps
15:20:30 <rprakash> Atleast release based should be open , quarterly can be TSC selections
15:20:46 <bryan_att> like the intrinsic value of not splitting yourself across too many projects ;-)
15:21:43 <cdub> yes
15:21:53 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Arno Project plans & tracking
15:22:27 <dneary> frankbrockners, I'll be missing the BGS meeting later - P/T meeting.
15:23:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #info ChrisPriceAB outlines the documentation project status.  Toolchain in place, conencting it to Jenkins and getting templates in place to establish in the projects.
15:24:07 <ChrisPriceAB> #info frankbrockners outlines the teams are working on deployment scripts for Arno, the builds of foreman and fuel completed at RC0.
15:24:30 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there is a project meeting for BGS after the TSC call due to the holidays
15:25:14 <ChrisPriceAB> #info CI status, no project meeting yesterday due to holidays.
15:25:38 <ChrisPriceAB> #info automatic builds are ready, dependant on hardware at linuxfoundation lab readiness.
15:26:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #info morgan outlines that there is work to be done in many areas.
15:27:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the funcest suites can be run manually in the intel labs.  the vPing test cases are working bu some issues in the pods.
15:27:43 <ChrisPriceAB> #info some issues spinning up VM's on the existing POD's.
15:28:17 <ChrisPriceAB> #info documentation is ongoing and under review.
15:30:13 <frankbrockners> dneary: ok - hope that Dan and/or Tim can be there
15:31:52 <rprakash> #info how to connect POD2 intel to LF or move testing to Ercisson lab asks Morgan?
15:34:19 <rprakash> #info Fixed installation of Robo for ODL can use one server and same for Tempest Frank suggests - Jump server includes these tools in labs
15:35:28 <bryan_att> yes, we need the tools etc to be documented as we are trying to recreate this in the AT&T lab like many others, I hope
15:35:38 <bryan_att> link to the documentation?
15:36:10 <rprakash> #info Intel PODs include Rally
15:37:09 <rprakash> #info Morgan to reach out to Ericsson lab with tools needed for Thursday tests
15:39:22 <rprakash> #info send email to get 1 vote from remaining not voted members for func_test team
15:39:46 <dneary> Movie?
15:39:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Vote on VIM Northbound Model and Interface project approval
15:40:24 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the project name has been adjusted "Model Oriented Virtualization Interface"
15:41:27 <rprakash> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/vimnbi
15:41:39 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Approve the creation of the Model Oriented Virtualization Interface "movie" project? (-1, 0, +1)
15:41:39 <collabot> Begin voting on: Approve the creation of the Model Oriented Virtualization Interface "movie" project? Valid vote options are , -1, 0, +1, .
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15:41:49 <ulik> #vote +1
15:41:50 <Tapio_T> #vote -1
15:41:54 <dlenrow> #vote +1
15:41:55 <tomnadeau> #vote +1
15:42:00 <Parviz> #vote +1
15:42:04 <julien_ZTE> #vote +1
15:42:06 <LouisF> #vote +1
15:42:12 <fuqiao> #vote +1
15:42:18 <arturt> #vote +1
15:42:32 <ChrisPriceAB> #undo
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15:42:44 <cdub> #vote +1
15:42:46 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1
15:43:08 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
15:43:08 <collabot> Voted on "Approve the creation of the Model Oriented Virtualization Interface "movie" project?" Results are
15:43:08 <collabot> +1 (10): fuqiao, LouisF, tomnadeau, arturt, ChrisPriceAB, cdub, dlenrow, julien_ZTE, Parviz, ulik
15:43:08 <collabot> -1 (1): Tapio_T
15:44:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #agree the project Model Oriented Virtualization Interface was created by the TSC.
15:45:03 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic project creation process
15:45:05 <dneary> Also, Juju is not a project, it's a subset of BGS, no?
15:45:12 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/project_proposals wiki outlining the process.
15:47:02 <bin_> #info weekly technical community discussion https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/weekly_technical_discussion
15:48:37 <iben> cdub: yes - too bad - but for TSC call we need voice
15:48:46 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, OK - thanks, wasn't aware that's concrete.
15:54:02 <rprakash> #info BGS needs to figure out way to proceed and seek TSC approval for the same
15:55:56 <rprakash> #info Iet installer option continue including JuJu and consider as part of BGS for now with no reviews - have conversation in BGS
15:56:30 <rprakash> #info if it is part of Rel 2 they must have a project as per Chris
15:57:03 <arturt> we will be ready with juju for real #1
15:57:14 <ChrisPriceAB> #endmeeting