16:00:09 #startmeeting BGS daily Arno release readiness check in 16:00:09 Meeting started Wed Apr 29 16:00:09 2015 UTC. The chair is frankbrockners. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:09 The meeting name has been set to 'bgs_daily_arno_release_readiness_check_in' 16:00:16 #info Frank Brockners 16:00:40 #info Tim Rozet 16:01:13 #info Fatih Degirmenci 16:01:21 #info Peter Bandzi 16:01:28 <[1]JonasB> #info Jonas Bjurel 16:01:42 #info Heather Kirksey 16:02:43 #info Agenda is our typical one: Roundtable on progress being made - different deployment tools and LF HW 16:03:43 Peter - could you give us a quick update on the "frames tagged received with VLAN 0" situation - as well as any other LF HW updates? 16:03:55 #info Dan Radez 16:04:02 yes 16:04:04 #info Topic: Update on the "frames tagged received with VLAN 0" situation - as well as any other LF HW updates? 16:04:15 thanks Peter - go ahead 16:04:21 #info morgan 16:04:25 #info if native vlan is configured on FI, it strips the vlan tag, not to priority bits. priority bits should be preserved. So it sends the packet with vlan0. This is correct. 16:05:32 #info i did quick check on enic module on jumphost and saw there is not the latest available version of enic driver 16:06:12 #info are you planning to update the driver? 16:06:39 #info according matrix http://www.cisco.com/web/techdoc/ucs/interoperability/matrix/matrix.html 16:06:50 #info we can try to upload latest driver 16:07:15 #info When can we do the update? 16:07:32 i can do it tomorrow morning ~9am 16:07:35 CET 16:08:09 Would tomorrow (Apr/30) - 9am-10am CET == 12am-1am PDT work for everyone? 16:08:41 trozet morgan_orange: r u ok with that window? 16:09:30 for the moment I wait for grene light so no problem for me (successfully connected on jumphost today, I saw that rally and robot were already installed) 16:09:41 trozet: ok? 16:10:12 radez: ok? 16:10:48 yup that's good for us 16:10:53 thanks 16:11:18 #info driver update will be done in a maintenance window tomorrow (Apr/30) - 9am-10am CET == 12am-1am PDT by pbandzi 16:12:11 #info For those who want to have some more background on this VLAN 0 priority tagging feature - here is some related documentation: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/atm/configuration/15-mt/atm-15-mt-book/atm-15-mt-book_chapter_011000.pdf 16:12:27 pbandzi: any additional updates on LF HW? 16:12:39 that's all 16:12:45 thanks Peter 16:12:48 moving on 16:13:14 #info Topic: Update on deployment tools (Fuel, Foreman) 16:13:20 <[1]JonasB> #info We're done with all the logic/programming needed for auto deploy. Since we have a short week in Sweden/Europe we will start testing on Monday. After that we go to LF-lab. 16:13:59 <[1]JonasB> #info Due to public hollidays there will be little happening between now and Mon 16:14:23 <[1]JonasB> Thats all from me 16:14:25 sorry I dc'ed 16:14:28 thanks Jonas 16:15:27 #info trozet has got OpenStack and ODL deploying successfully on POD2 via foreman 16:15:48 I'll let him comment further since he came back :) 16:16:34 radez: is the ISO fixed by now? 16:16:56 frankbrockners: I've got a patch in jenkins that I'm finshing up getting though the gate 16:17:01 should be done today 16:17:12 radez: could you #info that? 16:17:39 yes sry. 16:17:44 thanks 16:18:03 #info patch is in gerrit to fix the foreman iso https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/409/ 16:18:13 #info should be ready for reviews today 16:18:26 trozet: how close are you to giving "green light" to morgan (for functest) 16:19:49 * frankbrockners looks like trozet bailed for a moment 16:20:06 let's briefly switch to functest - 16:20:17 #info Topic: Updates from Functest 16:20:30 morgan_orange: any quick updates from your end? 16:20:35 #info doc updated: http://artifacts.opnfv.org/functest/docs/functest.html 16:20:53 #info successfully connected to POD1 and POD2 jumphost 16:21:23 #on LF so wait for green light to start testing (would need creds for RC file) dunno if both installers have the same passowrd policy 16:21:41 #info vPing commited 16:22:31 on the password policy... 16:22:31 #info discussion initiated with Metaswitch for VIMS (collect network requirements) 16:23:21 originally we picked opnfv/opnfvstack as the "default" - that said, so far I saw opnfv/octopus used throughout. Is this still the case for both setups/PODs? 16:23:50 if this is the defacto standard then we can stay with it for now 16:24:16 [1]JonasB, trozet, radez - any thoughts? 16:24:41 one sec 16:25:24 does bother me either way. 16:25:43 sry... doesn't bother me either way 16:26:35 <[1]JonasB> frankbrockners: What is the question? 16:26:55 [1]JonasB: originally we picked opnfv/opnfvstack as the "default" - that said, so far I saw opnfv/octopus used throughout. Is this still the case for both setups/PODs? 16:27:17 [1]JonasB: or in other terms - which username/pw do you use/expect? 16:27:57 <[1]JonasB> frankbrockners: We can do eiter way. Just decide and we accomodate 16:28:24 everyone ok if we are pragmatic and stay with opnfv/octopus? 16:29:11 yeah the passwords can be set in our yaml file 16:29:19 if noone speaks up - I'll #agree that 16:29:26 ok 16:29:54 i was just using what was in there, rather than the offiicial BGS 16:30:33 #agree default username/pw for CI will be opnfv/octopus (which is what is used today) - which changes the earlier agreement (which was opnfv/opnfvstack) 16:30:47 thanks Morgan for the functest update. 16:30:57 are there any other things we need to cover today? 16:31:07 sorry I was disconnected earlier 16:31:27 #info will handoff LF pod2 by end of day to morgan_orange and functest team 16:31:56 That’s exciting, right? 16:32:20 yeah! 16:32:21 great - good that we captured that. so morgan can start functesting first thing tomorrow morning - after peter is done with the upgrades 16:32:22 ok can start manuel test +CI tomorrow (public holidays on friday) 16:32:53 wait for 2 green lights then 16:35:37 ok - looks like we're done 16:36:01 one question pleas? 16:36:06 we can have a quick synch tomorrow - at least for those who can make it 16:36:12 sure Daniel - go ahead 16:37:20 have we all agreed that pulling 'live" from the internet to a the Jumpstart Host is the way we are going then? I.e whenever you intall FOREMAN the requirement is internet access and we are always Pulling "latest" build? - if so, can somone comment on how we will support this, have a static release into a ISO? and how that will work in carrier / operator networks where you will not be 16:37:20 able to do this? 16:38:49 <[1]JonasB> AS you now, Fuel will not do so, everything needed is on the iso. 16:39:22 ok.. so are we saying FUEL for carrier/DC's and FOREMAN For public deployments then ? 16:40:00 <[1]JonasB> lmcdasm: DOnt know, just a comment on Fuel 16:40:35 understood - im just trying to figure out when R1 is out - what the ISO will contain.. our FUEL stuff with all the "release" and then a FOREMAN setup that goes and fetches stuff? 16:41:04 just wondering how we will support this when people call and say "hey - im deployming FORMEAN and i had a problem " and we say" ahh.. well. rebuild cause we fixed something in gerrit today?" 16:41:11 trozet, radez: are you always pulling "latest" or a specific version? 16:41:55 depends on what you are talking about pulling 16:42:02 we pull the latest centos7 released on the mirror 16:42:10 #trozet - to be more clear 16:42:39 im talking about the OPNFV release, that containes all the repos you need to build - basically if I understand currentl (and im might be wrong so correct me) 16:42:51 the FOREMAN stuff doesnt delivey any "content/binaries" at all 16:43:09 it has a collection of script that pulls CEntos, Openbstack ,etc from upstream libs 16:43:12 and then installs them on the fly 16:43:21 yeah 16:43:28 alright 16:43:41 so.. then.. how do we control this.. how do we say "this is what is done for R1" 16:43:49 and how do we align testing to match 16:44:00 since each day (Potentiall) you are testing against a differetn "setup" 16:44:04 if things change up stream 16:44:33 well most of the things we are installing are from EPEL7 or RDO 16:44:42 fair enough 16:45:10 but there could be an issue like that 16:45:14 hence my qeustion - are we agreed that we are going to support anything that might change in EPEL /RDO ? and how do we say we have "testing" this (timestamp adn then forget it or?). 16:45:51 and secondly - except for developments, the assumption that you will be able to reach those repos (while we can make the requirements) is not realistic 16:45:59 well it will be up to us in Octopus to debug and figure out if a package is updated and broken 16:46:10 ATT, VFE, etc - have a strict policy that there is no "upstream" / public access to their DCs 16:46:10 we dont release a static product for R1 16:46:16 we release a method to install 16:46:21 ok.. thx Tim 16:46:57 if that is the case and its agreed. then i dont have anything else to say on the matter - except that its going to be super hard to support and deploy in most DC cases 16:47:25 hmm 16:47:34 well if that becomes the case we can package it locally on the jumphost through our ISO 16:47:39 then deploy from our jumphost 16:47:44 i would say that is the way to go 16:47:50 since then you have a "package" that is tested and released 16:48:01 otherwise each time you dont know what you are dealing with upstream 16:48:10 and then we end up chasing is it "our stuff" upstream, etc 16:48:24 and there is no way to reall say "yes, Functest works on this day with this package" (i.e release integrity) 16:48:36 again - its up to you / project really - not trying to say "you must do this" 16:48:45 we will fix that when it comes to it. In the meantime we are documenting all current packages on the wiki 16:48:47 just bringing it up as a course of how people will use it 16:48:50 so we will know what we used at R1 relesae 16:49:09 fair enough - you just wont know what 'versoin" of those packages you are using (cause they may change at any time). 16:49:18 again - if im the only one who cares, then no worries 16:49:46 imho it is mostly about nailing the references you use for a "release" 16:50:10 agreed Frank and to add tying to to a Functest that says we verified it 16:50:23 makes sense 16:50:28 I also think this is important from CM/release management point of view 16:50:55 yes - this is release vs. latest build 16:51:02 cause if its always "latest" then there is no way (without some coding madness) to match R1 release "objects" to a verified test, etc., etc 16:51:28 release should fix the references (or put things into a single basket like a versioned ISO) 16:51:41 so when we say we "tested" FOREMAN , we will need to note down the current state/ver of all the packages that were pulled for that specific deployment at that time 16:51:45 latest is latest which means "good luck" 16:51:57 ya.. and i think you can do both sure 16:52:00 and that is fine for development phase 16:52:07 but i think that having a "release" object for our release is needed. 16:52:07 or the CI phase 16:52:08 up to certain level 16:52:17 <[1]JonasB> frankbrockners: I think it is mor than nail the references, it is about to relyably be able to reproduce a deployment. 16:53:01 maybe im oversimpifying, but at relaees time we say we have R1 that is tested with XYZ and here is the ISO that has all you need.. if we keep a hole open, then each test comes into question 16:53:04 imho 16:53:10 [1]JonasB: nail the references would include that you pull the "nailed" referenced RPM from upstream and not the latest 16:53:23 lmcdasm: so when CI runs for Fuel, do you guys not pull the latest opendaylight helium on SR branch? 16:53:36 <[1]JonasB> frankbrockners: Then Im with you! 16:54:11 no 16:54:13 we dont. 16:54:15 the point of octopus is to do CI testing, which would mean pulling latest builds 16:54:23 the buyild system generates an ISO 16:54:27 at least of openstack/opendaylight 16:54:28 this is autodeployed to an set of hardware 16:54:37 all the Fetching is done and dumped into a ISO 16:54:47 thus we have a static/ traceable package that we put against CI 16:54:55 but that is "CI" and whenever we build something within CI, that something must be reproducable 16:55:05 hmmm... for CI I would have expected to use "latest" 16:55:22 at least latest openstack +odl build for a version 16:55:22 well. each time you do a build and create a new ISO 16:55:27 for a "release" you pick a point in time 16:55:28 once you start the build, it is latest of our own code base with known dependencies 16:55:32 then you have the Latest (or whatever the build system is pointing to) 16:55:45 so that each "run" is testing a complete package that is traceble 16:55:53 <[1]JonasB> Maybe a topic worth an own session? 16:55:56 so lets say i have build-X and we test it and its fine 16:56:08 then that is a Releae Candidate and we have and whole package 16:56:19 [1]JonasB: +1 16:56:20 then the next day you do another build 16:56:27 build-y - that would be with the latest 16:56:37 and agin, geneartes a complete package, is tested against with functest 16:56:40 and then can be considered for release 16:56:52 each day the artifacts have the "latest" build that people can fetch 16:57:05 but we arent talking about "latest" we are talking about having something we put up for consideration as a RC 16:57:18 and for that part you dont want "latest" cause you will chase you tail forever as things change 16:57:29 <[1]JonasB> So I need to leave, can we pick a time for this discussion? 16:57:30 you want something static that we can say " yes - we know tall the things in there and can outline them) 16:57:31 does anyone feel like he would want to pull together a wiki on "release", "latest build" etc. definitions - so that we can have a dedicated meeting on it and agree? 16:57:38 hmm. 16:57:44 i would say that is an AP on the TSC 16:57:52 so you create a static release 16:57:55 yes - but TSC needs input... 16:57:56 to test openstack and opendaylight 16:58:00 to outline what those mean and what you want in terms of a Releaee Candidate critera 16:58:14 well. i can summarize my thoughts in a mail and send it around if you like 16:58:25 we create a static release yes ttim 16:58:28 could you put things onto a wiki instead? 16:58:34 <[1]JonasB> That would nbe a good starting point! 16:58:35 that way people can add 16:58:38 cause then we know that we are testing "ODL YXZ with OPENSTACK XYZ, etc, etc" 16:58:55 so then you certify that ODL works with openstack by BGS? 16:58:57 ok.. im a bit hesitatnt with wiki's cause there is no index an unless we spam the link , its hard to find 16:58:59 that doesnt make any sense 16:59:06 ok. tim - which part? 16:59:07 because htey dont work for R1 16:59:09 <[1]JonasB> Daniel: You and I work on a Wiki next week! 16:59:12 so we wont make that happen anyway 16:59:12 maybe im not explaining well 16:59:23 thanks Daniel & Jonas! 16:59:29 if i understand - each time you build - you get the latest from ODL 16:59:38 what happens when they switch to Lithium 16:59:41 latest helium 16:59:41 we can link the wiki off the main BGS page 16:59:51 then your system on a R1 release of ARNO is now doing something completly differnet no? 16:59:55 folks I really have to run... 17:00:06 I'm going to endmeeting... but feel free to continue the chat 17:00:08 #endmeeting