13:59:22 <ChrisPriceAB> #startmeeting OPNFV TSC Meeting
13:59:22 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Oct  6 13:59:22 2015 UTC.  The chair is ChrisPriceAB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:59:22 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_tsc_meeting'
13:59:27 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic roll call
13:59:37 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price
13:59:39 <uli-k_> #info Uli
13:59:39 <GeraldK> #info Gerald Kunzmann
13:59:44 <GeraldK> proxy for Ashiq Khan
13:59:49 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners
14:00:09 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair rpaik
14:00:09 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB rpaik
14:00:16 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair ilu-k
14:00:16 <collabot> Warning: Nick not in channel: ilu-k
14:00:16 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB ilu-k rpaik
14:00:22 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair frankbrockners
14:00:22 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB frankbrockners ilu-k rpaik
14:00:34 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair uli-k
14:00:34 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB frankbrockners ilu-k rpaik uli-k
14:00:40 <uli-k_> :D
14:01:26 <Tapio_T> #info Tapio Tallgren
14:01:44 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Previous Minutes of meeting
14:01:53 <ChrisPriceAB> #info no feedback on previous minutes, approved.
14:02:00 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Agenda Bashing
14:02:09 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/tsc Todays Agenda
14:02:14 <Wenjing> #info Wenjing
14:02:16 <morgan_orange> #info Morgan Richomme
14:02:43 <narindergupta> #info Narinder Gupta
14:02:45 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan
14:02:58 <dku> #info Dirk Kutscher
14:03:33 <rpaik> we now have quorum
14:04:55 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Strategic Planning Committee discussion
14:06:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris outlines the identified need to address OPNFV consumers in the Brahmaputra timeline with a theme of "lab ready"
14:06:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris (Donley) outlines the focus areas the Strategic planning committee has identified for Brahmaputra
14:07:11 <Parviz> #info Parviz Yegani
14:07:39 <ChrisPriceAB> #info multi-site while important is seen to be heavily dependant on MANO components to realise in a meaningful way in the Brahmaputra time-frame.
14:08:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris presents a mapping of the identifies capabilities/themes with projects participating in the Brahmaputra release
14:08:49 <morgan_orange> fortunately we did not freeze test specifications at milestone C... :)
14:09:08 <ChrisPriceAB> :)
14:09:48 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris outlines that cadence of release and iterative development is more important that completeness.  Some capabilities may not be ready until the C-Release which is acceptable.
14:10:03 <ChrisPriceAB> #info he asks that the user stories be prioritized rather than completeness of features
14:10:44 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris indicates he will facilitate community support for resource shortages with the board in his capacity as SPC chair
14:11:19 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Ray Nugent asks if there are preferences on installer tools for the features
14:11:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris answers that the installers need to work, but the focus from the committee is on the features in the platform.
14:13:37 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Ray Nugent asks if the SPC has any views on the release artifacts to be delivered.
14:13:45 <rpaik> #info ChrisPriceAB to post the slides on the wiki
14:14:03 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris responds that the SPC does not have any specific opinions on the form of release.
14:14:36 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Brian asks if the intention is for targetted testing to focus on these use cases.
14:15:00 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris responds that test cases would be valuable for lab activities and an important component of the activity.
14:17:56 <rpaik> #info Chris adds that the goal is to provide similar feedback earlier for future releases (e.g. prior to milestone C)
14:18:13 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris outlines the committee will focus around 2 releases in the future moving forward.
14:18:48 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic TSC update to the board
14:20:28 <rpaik> #info topics presented were technical community elections/project lifecycle updates/Brahmaputra milestone C update
14:20:47 <narindergupta> #join #opnfv-orange
14:21:07 <narindergupta> # sorry
14:23:31 <rpaik> #info also discussed Pharos status
14:26:08 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Community lab readiness for Brahmaputra
14:26:15 * ChrisPriceAB thinks we have moved on
14:26:44 <rpaik> #info Parviz asks if we can quantify risks of not having sufficient HW in the LF lab?
14:26:58 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there is a discussion on establishing more infrastructure in the LF lab.
14:27:39 <ChrisPriceAB> #info uli-k outlines the risk of not bringing more hardware into the CI infrastructure on the project with combinatorial deployments
14:29:21 <julien_ZTE> #info Julien
14:29:36 <ChrisPriceAB> #info feedback form the community is that adding the additional capacilty in the existing lab would be highly beneficial for the project.
14:31:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Tapio raises the point that including ARM servers in the lab would be beneficial for the community.
14:32:43 <morgan_orange> Tapio_T_: ARMband project aims to provide an ARM based lab into pharos
14:33:21 <ChrisPriceAB> #agree Ths TSC would like to request additional funding for filling the existsing LF infra rack with servers to enable more deployment PODs in the LF lab.
14:33:56 <ChrisPriceAB> #info uli-k outlines the need for more lab infrastructures to be made available for the community in the Pharos context.
14:34:27 <ChrisPriceAB> #info uli-k describes the need to activate the community labs and make them available to the community.
14:35:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #action Pharos project to identify labs that intend to participate in Brahmaputra and be part of the CI pipeline.
14:36:41 <morgan_orange> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos/hw_resource_allocation
14:37:08 <debrascott> We can continue Pharos discussion in release meeting coming up next meeting
14:37:09 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic  OPNFV community election process - proposal
14:37:49 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/community_election_procedure latest proposal
14:39:34 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Committer removal processes
14:39:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/developer/committer_removal link to the proposed process
14:41:42 <ThomasNadeau> I think an abstain is a 0
14:41:55 <ThomasNadeau> if people want their vote to be counted, they have reasonable means to communicate their vote (i.e.: email)
14:42:44 <mbeierl> Perhaps for removal set a specific reply by date and only then lack of response is a 0?
14:43:07 <ThomasNadeau> I'd say the responsibility for voting or finding a proxy when they are away is on the committer
14:43:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV release artifacts decision
14:44:18 <ThomasNadeau> @ChrisPrice - can you please post the questions being posed to the TSC here on IRC?
14:44:18 <collabot> ThomasNadeau: Error: "ChrisPrice" is not a valid command.
14:44:25 <ThomasNadeau> ChrisPrice - can you please post the questions being posed to the TSC here on IRC?
14:44:25 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/releases/brahmaputra/release_artifacts_discussion#optionsrelease_artifacts options for release artifacts
14:45:07 <ThomasNadeau> Can you vote for more than 1 ?
14:46:48 <bryan_att> one of the clarifications is that all options include documentation as a mandatory requirement
14:47:38 <bryan_att> it further assumes that all active install options (script, bootable ISO) include the ability to complete an offline install
14:47:51 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Preference on minimum requirements on release artifacts? (A.1a, A.1b, A.1c, A.2a, A.2b, A.2c, abstain)
14:47:51 <collabot> Begin voting on: Preference on minimum requirements on release artifacts? Valid vote options are , A, 1a, A, 1b, A, 1c, A, 2a, A, 2b, A, 2c, abstain, .
14:47:51 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:47:57 <GeraldK> #vote abstain
14:48:02 <tapio_> #vote ab
14:48:02 <collabot> tapio_: ab is not a valid option. Valid options are , A, 1a, A, 1b, A, 1c, A, 2a, A, 2b, A, 2c, abstain, .
14:48:11 <tapio_> #vote 2b
14:48:15 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote A.2b
14:48:15 <collabot> ChrisPriceAB: A.2b is not a valid option. Valid options are , A, 1a, A, 1b, A, 1c, A, 2a, A, 2b, A, 2c, abstain, .
14:48:32 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
14:48:32 <collabot> Voted on "Preference on minimum requirements on release artifacts?" Results are
14:48:32 <collabot> abstain (1): GeraldK
14:48:32 <collabot> 2b (1): tapio_
14:48:37 <Parviz> #vote A2b
14:48:50 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Preference on minimum requirements on release artifacts? (A1a, A1b, A1c, A2a, A2b, A2c, abstain)
14:48:50 <collabot> Begin voting on: Preference on minimum requirements on release artifacts? Valid vote options are , A1a, A1b, A1c, A2a, A2b, A2c, abstain, .
14:48:50 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:48:51 <bjskerry> #vote A2b
14:48:55 <GeraldK> #vote abstain
14:48:57 <tapio_> #vote A2b
14:49:00 <bryan_att> #vote A.2b
14:49:00 <collabot> bryan_att: A.2b is not a valid option. Valid options are , A1a, A1b, A1c, A2a, A2b, A2c, abstain, .
14:49:01 <uli-k> #vote a2b
14:49:01 <julien_ZTE> #vote A1b
14:49:02 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote A2b
14:49:04 <frankbrockners> #vote A2b
14:49:08 <Parviz> Vote#A2b
14:49:08 <bryan_att> #vote A2b
14:49:12 <dku> #vote A2b
14:49:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
14:49:18 <collabot> Voted on "Preference on minimum requirements on release artifacts?" Results are
14:49:18 <collabot> A2b (7): frankbrockners, dku, tapio_, bryan_att, ChrisPriceAB, uli-k, bjskerry
14:49:18 <collabot> abstain (1): GeraldK
14:49:18 <collabot> A1b (1): julien_ZTE
14:49:48 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/releases/brahmaputra/release_artifacts_discussion#optionsrelease_maintenance release maintenance options
14:49:51 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote  Preference on release maintenance? (M1, M2a, M2b, M3a, M3b, abstain)
14:49:51 <collabot> Begin voting on: Preference on release maintenance? Valid vote options are , M1, M2a, M2b, M3a, M3b, abstain, .
14:49:51 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:50:04 <tapio_> #vote M2a
14:50:12 <uli-k> M3b
14:50:15 <GeraldK> #vote abstain
14:50:16 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote M2a
14:50:20 <uli-k> #vote M3b
14:50:25 <frankbrockners> #vote M2a
14:50:26 <julien_ZTE> #vote M2a
14:50:29 <dku> #vote abstain
14:50:36 <bjskerry> #vote M2b
14:50:58 <bryan_att> #vote M2b
14:51:14 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
14:51:14 <collabot> Voted on "Preference on release maintenance?" Results are
14:51:14 <collabot> abstain (2): GeraldK, dku
14:51:14 <collabot> M2a (4): tapio_, frankbrockners, julien_ZTE, ChrisPriceAB
14:51:14 <collabot> M2b (2): bryan_att, bjskerry
14:51:14 <collabot> M3b (1): uli-k
14:51:21 <Parviz> #vote abstain
14:51:40 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic WiKi tool decision
14:52:26 <ChrisPriceAB> #info rpaik outlines that the preference for voters seems to be to move to confluence.
14:53:27 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Shall the TSC determine to migrate our WiKi to confluence? (+1, 0, -1)
14:53:27 <collabot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC determine to migrate our WiKi to confluence? Valid vote options are , +1, 0, -1, .
14:53:27 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:53:35 <ThomasNadeau> #vote +1
14:53:36 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1
14:53:37 <tapio_> #vote 0
14:53:38 <uli-k> #vote 0
14:53:38 <dku> #vote 0
14:53:40 <GeraldK> #vote +1
14:53:40 <Parviz> #vote +1
14:53:42 <frankbrockners> #vote +1
14:53:44 <bjskerry> #vote 0
14:53:50 <julien_ZTE> #vote 0
14:54:15 <bryan_att> #vote +1
14:54:37 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
14:54:37 <collabot> Voted on "Shall the TSC determine to migrate our WiKi to confluence?" Results are
14:54:37 <collabot> 0 (5): tapio_, uli-k, dku, bjskerry, julien_ZTE
14:54:37 <collabot> +1 (6): GeraldK, frankbrockners, bryan_att, ChrisPriceAB, ThomasNadeau, Parviz
14:55:15 <ThomasNadeau> Discussing this is not a cause for making a discussion. There is a clear majority to leave it as is.  Lets make the call.
14:55:20 <fdegir> what was the point of having surveys, etc if tsc was going to vote in the end
14:56:24 <uli-k> fdegir: Maybe you should ask your company's TSC rep ;-)
14:56:32 <ChrisPriceAB> fdegir, the issues is the surveys were inconclusive
14:56:36 <fdegir> :)
14:56:42 <mbeierl> Atlassian is free for open source projects
14:56:49 <mbeierl> licensing should be very clear
14:57:14 <rpaik> #info vote count migration to confluence: 7/abstain:5
14:57:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #agree The TSC agrees to migrate our wiki to Confluence.
14:57:34 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic  TSC Meeting during OpenStack Summit
14:57:53 <rpaik> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/OpenStackTokyo sign-up for OPNFV booth
14:58:44 <ChrisPriceAB> #info rpaik describes the activities at the OpenStack summit are listed in the link above
14:59:17 <ChrisPriceAB> #info rpaik proposes we move the TSC call to 17:00 Tokyo time on Monday to reduce conflict with the OpenStack summit
15:00:00 <ChrisPriceAB> I'll be there
15:00:04 <dku> I'll be in Tokyo
15:00:05 <uli-k> I'll be there
15:00:07 <ThomasNadeau> I am not attending
15:00:09 <GeraldK> okay to move to 17:00
15:00:14 <bjskerry> I am not
15:00:18 <julien_ZTE> I'm not
15:00:31 <ThomasNadeau> i suggest canceling the TSC meeting that week rather than trying to reschedule.
15:00:49 <tapio_> I'm not going to Tokyo but Jonne or Juha can join the meeting
15:01:17 <uli-k> There will also be the BOF session (Iben and I are doing that)
15:01:22 <frankbrockners> let's keep the current slot...
15:01:38 <ChrisPriceAB> #endmeeting