14:00:04 <bh526r> #startmeeting Weekly Technical Discussion
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14:00:14 <bh526r> #topic Roll Call
14:00:22 <bh526r> #info Bin Hu
14:00:34 <timirnich> #info Tim Irnich (IRC only for the first 10 min)
14:00:45 <timirnich> Good morning everybody
14:00:55 <bh526r> Good afternoon Tim
14:01:27 <bh526r> So you only have first 10 minutes?
14:02:25 <bh526r> Good morning Trevor
14:02:45 <bh526r> #info Trevor Cooper
14:03:28 <bh526r> #info Yu Yang
14:04:03 <bh526r> #info Cedric Ollivier
14:04:59 <bh526r> #info David McBride
14:05:53 <bh526r> #chair dmcbride
14:05:53 <collabot`> Current chairs: bh526r dmcbride
14:06:32 <dmcbride> #topic OPNFV strategy and plan - part 2
14:07:02 <dmcbride> #info last week included discussion of status and key objectives
14:11:45 <dmcbride> #info ollivier refers to point in key objectives about toolchains being "easy to replicate".
14:12:22 <dmcbride> #info This is very difficult to achieve.  Other communities, such as OpenStack, have had difficulty with this, as well.
14:13:30 <dmcbride> #info Trevor Cooper points out that Pharos has not achieved its original objectives
14:15:37 <dmcbride> #info Georg Kunz
14:15:51 <dmcbride> #info Trevor Bramwelt
14:16:01 <dmcbride> #info Cristina Pauna
14:16:08 <dmcbride> #info Mark Beierl
14:17:18 <dmcbride> #info Vishnu
14:21:48 <ollivier> #info Cédric Ollivier
14:22:04 <gabriel_yuyang> #info Gabriel Yu
14:23:19 <CristinaPauna> #info Cristina Pauna
14:23:23 <trevor_intel> #info Trevor Cooper
14:31:21 <dmcbride> #info ollivier asks whether installers should be able to set their own test requirements, or they should be established universally
14:34:21 <ollivier> If we allow all installers to pick tests what they want, we can't make fair comparisions between networking impl and all test frameworks must get their resources.
14:37:31 <CristinaPauna> ollivier: keep in mind that implies stability and predictibility in the test framework changes so that the installer can adapt to the imposed criteria; which eventually puts pressure on the testing framework to prove stability earlier in the process
14:37:42 <dmcbride> #info ollivier says "If we allow all installers to pick tests what they want, we can't make fair comparisions between networking impl and all test frameworks must get their resources."
14:38:10 <dmcbride> #info CristinaPauna responds "keep in mind that implies stability and predictibility in the test framework changes so that the installer can adapt to the imposed criteria; which eventually puts pressure on the testing framework to prove stability earlier in the process"
14:38:29 <ollivier> CristinaPauna: Agree. That's why I recommend independent gates.
14:39:11 <dmcbride> #info Trevor Cooper asks about dependence on OpenStack.  What about alternatives (e.g. k8s)?
14:39:50 <dmcbride> #info What is the OPNFV objective for Cloud Native?
14:41:03 <ollivier> CristinaPauna: and now Functest delivers earlier (OpenStack master) regarding all installers following the first model
14:41:37 <ollivier> CristinaPauna: or Kubernetes master
14:42:56 <CristinaPauna> ollivier: I know functest delivers earlier now; I was thinkin more of code freeze; but I agree that independent gates will help to this respect and seems the natural way of running things
14:43:12 <CristinaPauna> exit
14:43:45 <dmcbride> #info bh526r says that there is an opportunity for OPNFV to provide a devops platform to other communities
15:00:37 <dmcbride> #info Need to approve strategy plan in TSC.  Subsequently, we will develop detailed work plans and deliverables.
15:02:12 <bh526r> Thank you everyone
15:02:23 <bh526r> Thank you David for taking the minutes
15:06:55 <bh526r> #topic AOB
15:07:10 <bh526r> #info Meeting adjourned
15:07:13 <bh526r> #endmeeting