08:02:19 <yujunz> #startmeeting qtip
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08:02:29 <yujunz> #topic rollcall
08:02:33 <yujunz> #info Yujun Zhang
08:02:35 <zhihui> #info zhihui
08:02:40 <Taseer_> #info Taseer
08:03:11 <yujunz> ping SerenaFeng
08:03:47 <yujunz> Agenda
08:03:55 <yujunz> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/qtip-meetings-2016-11-14
08:04:11 <yujunz> #topic Action followup
08:04:21 <yujunz> #info AP @zhihui to do some research on dovetail on how to consume test data from YardStick next week
08:04:53 <yujunz> zhihui is on business trip last week. Will you continue on it this week?
08:05:15 <zhihui> yujunz, yes, i will do it this week
08:05:19 <yujunz> Thanks
08:05:20 <SerenaFeng> pong
08:05:26 <yujunz> #action @zhihui to do some research on dovetail on how to consume test data from YardStick this week
08:05:45 <yujunz> #topic sprint QTIP-D2 retrospective
08:05:56 <yujunz> Anybody familiar with agile retrospective?
08:06:27 <yujunz> Honestly I've never done it before, but looks useful. We can try it
08:06:53 <yujunz> We are about to complete sprint QTIP-D2 and start sprint QTIP-D3
08:07:00 <SerenaFeng> I think I have done it before
08:07:12 <SerenaFeng> but I don't think it is suitable for opensource team
08:07:23 <SerenaFeng> since we are not sitting together
08:07:46 <yujunz> I learned it from openstack/telemetry team
08:07:48 <yujunz> #link https://julien.danjou.info/blog/2016/opensource-upstream-team-agile
08:08:15 <SerenaFeng> It asks all the team to list all the good aspect/to be improved aspect/to be continued aspect
08:08:16 <yujunz> An article about what may work and what not
08:08:33 <SerenaFeng> and select the top three
08:08:38 <SerenaFeng> discuss about them
08:08:52 <yujunz> OK, we don't spend too much time on it.
08:09:02 <yujunz> But I do have some comments of last sprint
08:09:40 <yujunz> Overall 8 completed, 3 in progress and 3 open
08:10:13 <yujunz> Most delay are in CLI.
08:11:16 <yujunz> The problem might be some tasks are too early to be put on schedule
08:12:00 <yujunz> So I put version related tasks to low priority since currently we can rely on docker command
08:12:21 <yujunz> For suite and perftest, it is mainly affected by refactoring of the directory
08:12:54 <yujunz> But it is still good that we have almost finish the folder reorganization
08:13:05 <yujunz> With the price of breaking almost everything...
08:13:24 <zhihui> yes
08:13:42 <yujunz> I list things to be fixed and verified in QTIP-154
08:13:44 <yujunz> #link https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/QTIP-154
08:13:53 <zhihui> I am fixing qtip ci.
08:14:30 <yujunz> OK, you may update the task status to avoid overlapping
08:14:52 <zhihui> yujunz, ok
08:15:11 <zhihui> I will take some subtasks about QTIP-154
08:15:25 <yujunz> So for retrospective, the things to be improved is planning. So I hope everybody can participate in the starting stage.
08:15:40 <yujunz> Help to figure out what is most important and what may cause conflict
08:16:07 <yujunz> #topic sprint QTIP-D3 planning
08:16:29 <yujunz> I have already listed some tasks
08:16:32 <yujunz> #link https://jira.opnfv.org/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=135&projectKey=QTIP&view=planning
08:17:13 <yujunz> #info QTIP-148 Architecture overview design specification
08:17:39 <yujunz> Things become more clear so I think we need a spec to agree on
08:18:07 <yujunz> Some basic information in the task description
08:18:09 <yujunz> #link https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/QTIP-148
08:19:01 <yujunz> I'll start a draft for review ASAP
08:19:43 <yujunz> #info QTIP-142 Missing unit test for cli
08:20:25 <yujunz> With more and more code integrated, we can no longer rely on manual test for quality.
08:20:56 <yujunz> #info QTIP-151 CLI-Install Frame Work outline
08:21:06 <yujunz> Taseer what do you plan to complete in this task?
08:21:13 <yujunz> Taseer_
08:21:59 <Taseer_> Just a basic outline of how to install qtip
08:22:52 <yujunz> OK, as I mentioned before, this seem not very urgent. So I would suggest you finish the outline and leave the implementation to future sprints
08:23:09 <Taseer_> OK
08:23:22 <yujunz> #info QTIP-147Yardstick integration design specification
08:23:45 <yujunz> zhihui as a yardstick committer, could you take this?
08:24:44 <zhihui> sure.
08:25:08 <yujunz> OK, if necessary, we can organize an online meeting with YardStick team
08:26:02 <yujunz> #info QTIP-152 Internship program
08:26:10 <zhihui> yes, a zoom meeting will help.
08:26:22 <yujunz> We'll talk about the internship program in next topic
08:26:37 <yujunz> Hope we can start at least one program in this sprint
08:26:52 <yujunz> #info QTIP-154 Fix possible break of existing features
08:26:58 <yujunz> Already discussed
08:27:09 <yujunz> #topic intern program
08:27:49 <yujunz> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Internship-program
08:27:56 <OPNFV-Gerrit-Bot> zhihui wu proposed qtip: bugfix: miss __init__.py under module qtip  https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/24309
08:28:06 <yujunz> SerenaFeng is already mentoring a student
08:28:19 <yujunz> Could you share about how it usually goes?
08:28:51 <SerenaFeng> OPNFV suggest internship long time ago
08:29:10 <SerenaFeng> each project can propose some topics
08:29:28 <SerenaFeng> then wait for student to choose
08:30:04 <yujunz> Where do they recruit students? Any channel available?
08:30:19 <yujunz> Or it is all on the project team?
08:30:40 <SerenaFeng> I think OPNFV has done some advertisements itself
08:30:59 <SerenaFeng> at least in Functest team, we don't do the recruitment work
08:31:12 <yujunz> Did Morgan do it?
08:31:29 <SerenaFeng> I don't think so
08:31:33 <SerenaFeng> he never mention it
08:31:42 <yujunz> I see. I'll contact Ray for details
08:31:47 <yujunz> How about the interview?
08:31:59 <SerenaFeng> I can contact my students to ask him where did he get the information
08:32:12 <SerenaFeng> we do the interview via hangouts
08:32:40 <SerenaFeng> ask their experience and to see if they are suitable for the work
08:32:52 <SerenaFeng> and also ask them some questions
08:33:25 <SerenaFeng> and then feedback to Ray
08:33:33 <yujunz> And how to make decision?
08:34:19 <SerenaFeng> if you think the student is ok, you tell Ray that you want him/her
08:34:52 <yujunz> I see. I want you! Like the VOICE program, LOL
08:35:27 <SerenaFeng> because Jose and Morgan do the detail work, that's all the things I know
08:35:41 <yujunz> Thanks.
08:35:46 <SerenaFeng> I have a meeting with my students tonight, maybe I can ask him the details for you
08:36:11 <yujunz> OK, thanks a lot. Put an action to followup
08:36:37 <yujunz> #action SerenaFeng to provide yujunz some detail about internship program after talking to her student
08:36:52 <yujunz> Taseer_ do you have any questions ahead?
08:37:08 <yujunz> About the internship program
08:37:55 <Taseer_> Not until I know about the program plan. the difficulty level etc...
08:38:08 <yujunz> OK. Let's move on to next topic
08:38:21 <yujunz> #info information sharing
08:38:35 <yujunz> Some information from last TestWG meeting
08:38:55 <yujunz> #topic information sharing
08:39:18 <yujunz> #link https://goo.gl/OwSWgf
08:39:39 <yujunz> A test landing page proposed. Not sure how we shall display QTIP result in it yet
08:39:51 <yujunz> You may have a read after the meeting
08:40:18 <yujunz> #info Goals & vision for the Danube release (draft) https://goo.gl/LmIA6V
08:40:23 <yujunz> This was a presentation to TSC.
08:40:52 <yujunz> What is meaningful to us is to think about the value of QTIP to OPNFV community.
08:41:15 <yujunz> #info POSCA in Bottlenecks D Release https://goo.gl/yddgYR
08:41:36 <yujunz> Some progress about bottleneck, a project for performance analysis
08:42:52 <yujunz> #info QTIP will give a presentation on TestWG weekly meeting this Thursday
08:42:54 <yujunz> #link https://goo.gl/g16hEG
08:43:19 <yujunz> Please have a look at it and give comments
08:44:14 <yujunz> OK. That's all from me today.
08:44:58 <yujunz> The sprint review is already coverred.
08:45:02 <yujunz> #topic AoB
08:46:10 <yujunz> If nothing else, we can stop here.
08:46:15 <SerenaFeng> ok
08:46:24 <yujunz> Everyone please feel free to add tasks to sprint QTIP-D3 and review the project introduction.
08:46:37 <yujunz> I'll kick off sprint QTIP-D3 tomorrow
08:46:41 <Taseer_> Ok.
08:46:52 <yujunz> Thank you all
08:46:54 <yujunz> #endmeeting