Thursday, 2024-06-13

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jkihi everyone13:01
iwamatsu__hello13:02
patersoncAfternoon13:02
masamihi13:02
pave1Hi!13:02
ulihello13:02
arisuthi13:02
jkilet's start then13:03
jki#startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting13:03
collab-meetbotMeeting started Thu Jun 13 13:03:05 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:03
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jki#topic AI review13:03
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jki- prepare blog entry on SLTS kernel state and challenges [Jan]13:03
jkino news, unfortunately13:03
jkiI've nothing more recorded otherwise13:03
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jki#topic Kernel maintenance updates13:04
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pave1I was reviewing 6.1.93.13:04
ulii've been reviewing 6.1.9313:04
masamiThis week reported 8 new CVEs and 4 updated CVEs.13:04
iwamatsu__I reviewed 6.1.93.13:04
jkianything else?13:06
jki8 CVEs sound like vacation phase13:06
pave1Yeah, we'll just get 196 next week :-).13:07
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jki#topic Kernel release status13:07
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jki4.4 is late13:07
ulithere were concerns about the quality of a patch13:08
uliso pave1 suggested to wait for the 4.19 release13:08
ulibut that release hasn't come so far13:08
ulii'm inclined to drop the patch and move on13:08
pave1Yeah. I don't believe we should be basing our releases on 4.19-rc.13:08
jkiwhich patch in particular?13:08
ulix86/insn: Fix PUSH instruction in x86 instruction decoder opcode map13:08
pave14.19.316-rc1 is out, so I expect 4.19.316 in few days.13:09
ulistable doesn't have a schedule; we do13:09
pave1I mean -- there's not neccessarily anything wrong with the named patch,13:10
pave1but if it was not yet released in part of 4.19.x, we should not be releasing it.13:10
ulithat makes it impossible to relese anything on time13:11
pave1No, why?13:11
ulii've been basing almost every release so far on an rc13:11
pave1Don't :-).13:11
ulibecause the release doesn't happen when we need it13:11
pave1Just take patches from latest version than happen, and ignore anything newer.13:11
ulithat's an option13:12
pave1Patches that are not in in 4.19.x are straight from mainline, and untested.13:12
ulibut introduces quite some latency13:12
pave1They may be completely bogus, breaking build, etc.13:12
pave1Yes, I believe we should live with latency.13:12
pave1Mainline stuff gets applied to queue-4.19. Then -rc1 comes13:13
pave1people test that, and bad patches are dropped. Then we get 4.19.x13:13
pave1We should ignore everything before it gets to 4.19.x13:13
uliok, i can live with that.13:13
jkiunless it looks very critical - but that requires special handling anyway13:14
pave1Yep.13:14
pave1and when things do get very critical, we do get -stable releases, anyway.13:14
ulii can do that from now on.13:15
jkigood13:15
pave1Thank you :-).13:15
jkithen 4.4 will come soon13:15
uliyep.13:15
pave1With this one, 4.19.316 should happen around Monday, so it might be easy to just wait.13:15
pave1(And verify the patches are still there in the release).13:16
pave1Or we can stash them and reapply after the release.13:16
ulii can wait until monday night, and if there isn't anything yet, i'll release base on .31513:16
uli*based13:17
jkigood, moving on...13:17
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pave1Works for me. "Sat, 15 Jun 2024 11:31:50 +0000." is the date Greg quoted for 4.19.316.13:17
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uliok13:18
jki#topic Kernel testing13:18
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arisutno news afaik13:18
patersoncjki: Are there any updates for the Siemens LAVA lab?13:18
arisutlooks still down from last time I checked13:19
jkinope, but our team was on a Retreat (partial excuse)13:19
patersoncOkay13:19
patersoncI'm not sure I have any news this week13:21
jkianything else on testing?13:21
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jki#topic AOB13:22
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pave1I'll be travelling for two weeks starting Jun 24.13:22
masamiI will be absent from the next meeting and the one after that.13:22
jkiok13:22
arisutI will absent next meeting13:23
pave1There's Linux RT meeting at Jun 26; not sure if I can make it there.13:23
jkiI should be there13:23
jkican wear both hats this time13:24
pave1Iwamatsu-san also has our hat :-).13:24
iwamatsu__yes :)13:25
jkidoes that time slot fit you?13:25
iwamatsu__it is no problem.13:26
jkiok, fine13:26
jkisomething else: we discussed internally to look into the topic of mapping CVEs (via commits) on kernel configs13:26
jkiis anyone aware of preexisting public approaches?13:27
jkiseems not :)13:29
pave1So in git@gitlab.com:cip-project/cip-kernel/lts-commit-list.git13:29
pave1we have bin/commit.py.13:29
pave1That computes "relevant" for a commit based on source file list.13:29
masamihttps://events.linuxfoundation.org/archive/2022/open-source-summit-japan/program/schedule/13:29
pave1And we generate source file lists manually from our configs from time to time.13:29
masamititle "Config based CVE matching for13:30
masamiLinux kernel"13:30
pave1We use that for reviews.13:30
jkifound it - thanks!13:30
masamikoverage command in kmax repo looks helpful. https://github.com/paulgazz/kmax13:30
jkiI think it would be good for us to execute automated mapping (as far as possible) for incoming CVEs as well as config changes13:32
jkiwe may have some time to try out something and then discuss further13:33
jkiok - anything else?13:35
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jkithanks, all!13:36
ulithank you13:36
iwamatsu__thank you13:36
masamithank you13:36
pave1Thank you!13:36
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arisutthank you13:36
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