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| jki | hi all | 13:01 |
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| pave1 | Hi! | 13:01 |
| iwamatsu__ | hello | 13:01 |
| uli | hello | 13:01 |
| csteiger | hi :) | 13:01 |
| masami | hello | 13:01 |
| jki | ok, let's go | 13:03 |
| jki | #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting | 13:03 |
| collab-meetbot | Meeting started Thu Oct 10 13:03:06 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| collab-meetbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
| collab-meetbot | The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' | 13:03 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 13:03 | |
| jki | #topic AI review | 13:03 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to "AI review (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 13:03 | |
| jki | - prepare blog entry on SLTS kernel state and challenges [Jan] | 13:03 |
| jki | document is opened (again) in a window next to this one ;) | 13:03 |
| jki | on it | 13:03 |
| jki | I didn't catch other AIs in last weeks meeting | 13:04 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel maintenance updates | 13:05 |
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| pave1 | Quiet week. I did some AUTOSEL reviews. | 13:05 |
| uli | i released 4.4 | 13:05 |
| masami | This week reported 18 new CVEs and 2 updated CVEs. | 13:05 |
| iwamatsu__ | I reviewed 6.1.112. | 13:05 |
| jki | further topics? | 13:07 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel release status | 13:07 |
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| jki | with the release of today, all green | 13:08 |
| pave1 | Yep. Sorry for the delay :-). | 13:08 |
| jki | any issues in sight? | 13:08 |
| jki | 5 | 13:09 |
| pave1 | Not really. | 13:09 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel testing | 13:09 |
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| jki | chris is no here, it seems :) | 13:10 |
| jki | no operational issues (anymore), right? | 13:11 |
| pave1 | Yep, Chris sent an apology. | 13:11 |
| jki | ok, then let's move on | 13:12 |
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| jki | #topic AOB | 13:12 |
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| jki | anyone anything? | 13:13 |
| pave1 | Last time you mentioned some stories from Plumbers... | 13:13 |
| jki | yeah, I shared some points in the TSC meeting on Tuesday already | 13:13 |
| jki | one was that there are apparently plans to create a Cloud LTS kernel | 13:14 |
| jki | if someone sees some related announcements on the list(s), please share | 13:14 |
| jki | that was an info I picked up after the kernel CVE BoF at Plumbers | 13:14 |
| pave1 | Ok :-). | 13:15 |
| jki | I think that session is on youtube by now as well | 13:15 |
| pave1 | Yup. | 13:15 |
| jki | not all rooms are yet, at least I'm still missing the RT session | 13:15 |
| pave1 | BTW... Is it only my impression, or does Intel seem to be in trouble? | 13:16 |
| jki | that's what the media is reporting - or do you mean something more specific? | 13:16 |
| pave1 | I got it from social media, so wanted to double-check. No, nothing specific. | 13:17 |
| jki | back to the Cloud LTS: their threat model is naturally different than ours, some may say, smaller | 13:18 |
| jki | but we may still benefit from such an initialive and could probably join forces on the common parts | 13:19 |
| pave1 | +1. In some cases, thier threat model is bigger, too. We can advise people not to run untrusted code on CPU... | 13:20 |
| jki | well, we could in the past, but this is / has changed in the last few years | 13:20 |
| jki | some of our workloads are "multi app", some even "multi tenant" | 13:21 |
| pave1 | Well. All of their workloads are :-). | 13:21 |
| jki | right | 13:22 |
| jki | well, also not always | 13:22 |
| jki | however, we should come up with a clearer threat model | 13:23 |
| jki | to avoid wrong assumptions on any side | 13:23 |
| pave1 | I'm not sure if CIP is not already too diverse for that. | 13:24 |
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| pave1 | We try not to make assumptions, but it is pretty clear that with malicious code running on CPU attack surface is way bigger. | 13:24 |
| jki | don't disagree | 13:25 |
| pave1 | ...so if you try to make super-safe bitcoin wallet, | 13:25 |
| pave1 | please don't also add ability to run games from Steam :-). | 13:25 |
| jki | in the end, we as platform cannot answer how critical the assets are of our downstream users | 13:26 |
| jki | and if they have some further safety nets | 13:26 |
| pave1 | Agreed. | 13:27 |
| jki | one last point from me: I need a substitute next week | 13:28 |
| jki | anyone able to announce and host the meeting? | 13:29 |
| pave1 | I should be able to do it. | 13:30 |
| jki | thanks! | 13:31 |
| jki | ok - last call for today | 13:31 |
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| jki | #endmeeting | 13:31 |
| collab-meetbot | Meeting ended Thu Oct 10 13:31:35 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:31 |
| collab-meetbot | Minutes: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2024/10/cip.2024-10-10-13.03.html | 13:31 |
| collab-meetbot | Minutes (text): http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2024/10/cip.2024-10-10-13.03.txt | 13:31 |
| collab-meetbot | Log: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2024/10/cip.2024-10-10-13.03.log.html | 13:31 |
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| jki | thanks all! | 13:31 |
| pave1 | Thank you! | 13:31 |
| uli | thanks | 13:31 |
| iwamatsu__ | thank you | 13:31 |
| masami | thank you | 13:31 |
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