Thursday, 2025-03-06

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jkihi all13:00
uli_hello13:00
pave1hi!13:00
arisuthi13:01
patersonchey13:01
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jkiok, let'S go13:02
jki#startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting13:02
collab-meetbot`Meeting started Thu Mar  6 13:02:51 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:02
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jki#topic AI review13:02
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jkino open points13:03
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jki#topic Kernel maintenance updates13:03
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uli_i'm working on 4.19 and 4.4.13:03
pave1I'm reviewing 6.1.129, 13013:04
jkianything else?13:07
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jki#topic Kernel release status13:08
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jkiall lights green again13:08
jkianything to add?13:08
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jki#topic Kernel testing13:09
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arisutI'm trying to use the gitlab configurations on kernelci13:09
arisutKernelCI team suggested to add configurations to the kernel repository13:10
arisutis that a possibility ?13:11
jkiwhich configs? kernel configs?13:11
arisutcip-kernel-config13:11
pave1Iwamatsu-san normally maintains that.13:12
jkiright, and the sematic is important to CIP13:12
jkiwe can replicate them, but it may be tricky to maintain them in kernel ci13:12
jkiand what is the "kernel repository" BTW?13:12
jkisurely not upstream13:13
arisutthat is one possibility13:13
arisutadding the configuration in the CIP kernel repository13:13
jkithat makes no sense13:13
jkikernel configs are not maintained inside kernel trees anymore13:13
pave1it is quite important to be able to test mainline trees.13:14
jkiyes, but not via upstream's defconfigs13:14
jkithat's why there are separate ones to enable more features when testing13:14
arisuttesting mainline trees with the same CIP configurations?13:15
pave1.gitlab.ci already breaks that, but adding also configs would be step in wrong direction.13:15
patersoncI guess the question is - what configs does CIP actually want/need to test?13:15
jkiwhat we define in our config(s)13:15
jkiyes, adding .gitlab.ci was an unnneed move for our kernel13:16
jkii'm sure we can eventually drop it again13:16
patersoncWell we can remove it soon when we move to KernelCI13:16
jkiexactly13:16
pave1arisut. yes, testing mainline or stable with our configs is valuable when bisecting.13:17
arisutpave1, I see13:17
patersoncI guess we'll have to find a way to use the out-of-tree configs arisut13:17
jkiwhat does kernelci do otherwise?13:18
jkithey surely don't ask Linus to add a .config for testing purposes13:18
arisutKernelCI use fragments of config saved in kernelCI configuration file13:19
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jkican we define our own fragments?13:21
arisutyes13:21
jkibaseline is likely then the defconfig13:21
iwamatsusorry, I'm late13:22
arisutThat's true13:22
jkiwe would only have to generate a fragment that expresses the delta from there to cip config13:22
arisutright, that is probably the best way13:22
arisutI will look into it, thanks13:23
jkiokay - then we have a plan for that :)13:23
patersoncWould the fragments need to be the same for each kernel version?13:23
jkithanks!13:23
patersoncI guess they could be13:23
jkiprobably not13:24
pave1Patersonc. likely not.13:24
arisutpatersonc, depend from the delta i suppose13:24
jkithey will already be different per arch13:24
arisutof each version13:24
arisutyes13:24
jkigoal for is still one merged config per arch and version13:24
jkibtw: https://gitlab.com/cip-project/cip-kernel/cip-kernel-config/-/merge_requests/11513:25
jkiiwamatsu: please have a look13:25
iwamatsuYes, I will check it.13:26
jkiwill solve the problem that some people only patched the merged configs now, breaking regeneration13:27
jkiok13:27
jkianything else on configs?13:27
jkior on testing?13:27
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jki#topic AOB13:28
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jkitomorrow is E-TSC - any inputs from that13:29
jkiare we still on track with maintaining 4.4 + 4.19 ourselves?13:30
uli_looks ok so far13:30
arisutrelease scripts as been added on gitlab?13:31
jkithanks for the reminder13:31
jkiany news on that?13:31
arisutmaybe this could be a AI13:32
jkiyeah, just checking who to assign it to ;)13:32
arisutright13:32
pave1I will send notes to the list, but they are meant for copy/pasting, not direct exec.13:33
jkiiwamatsu... you wanted to share as well13:33
jkiwill add you both then13:33
pave1and I suspect everyone has version modified for their environment, because they depend on it.13:34
pave1plus uli likely has a copy as well .-)13:34
uli_i copied my first announcement from iwamatsu-san, then i copied my own for every release13:34
arisutwould be nice to add a config file and make it work on virtualenv13:35
iwamatsuI will share it.13:35
jkiperfect13:35
jkianything to add for tomorrow regarding maintenance?13:35
jkiif not: status 6.12, where are we?13:37
patersoncpave1 are you still planning to run your script that highlights what is missing from CIP commits in 6.12 compared to 6.1?13:37
pave1Next steps are agreeing on configs, and porting changes from 6.1cip13:38
iwamatsuI send to ML about the config, but have not received a reply.13:38
jkithen I can remind folks again13:39
pave1PPP13:39
pave1maybe we should agree on forking the tree from specific version tommorow.13:40
jkiwhat should the TSC be asked then?13:40
jkiwe do have the ok already to start 6.12 development13:40
jkiwhich naturally includes forking off13:41
jkiplus there was the call for backports to 6.12 as well13:41
jkiI suppose no one used that yet - or had to use it13:41
pave1"We'll fork 6.12 from 6.12.123. Is everyone ok with that?"13:41
pave1I guess.13:41
pave1Or maybe we just need to agree between ourselves.13:42
jkiwere there any backports recently that were missing 6.12 support?13:42
pave1there was such series this week,yes.13:43
jkiiwamatsu: where is your call for configs again?13:43
jkipavel: did you give that feedback already? link?13:43
pave1They said they are aware of the issue...13:44
pave1and it is really not a problem, will handle it13:44
pave1with the rest when running the script.13:45
pave1Would have to search for the link.13:45
jkifound the series13:45
iwamatsujki: I will ping again to ML13:46
pave1What about "pavel will write an email with version to fork from later today"13:46
pave1and we'll get things moving on the tsc?13:47
jkiwell, we will try :)13:48
pave1Ok .-)13:48
jkigood13:48
jkithen I had on my list: "feedback / next steps CVE triage tooling"13:49
jkimy colleague is absent to refresh my memories, and masami is also not here today13:50
jkianthing to add, on that or other points for tomorrow?13:50
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jki#endmeeting13:53
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jkithanks, see you tomorrow!13:53
arisutthx13:53
uli_thanks13:53
iwamatsuThank you13:54
pave1thank you!13:57
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