Thursday, 2025-04-10

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jkihi all!12:59
uli_hello12:59
masamihello12:59
pave1hi12:59
arisuthi12:59
iwamatsu__hello13:00
jkiok, let's go13:00
jki#startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting13:00
collab-meetbotMeeting started Thu Apr 10 13:00:37 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
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collab-meetbotThe meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting'13:00
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jki#topic AI review13:00
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jki- share release scripts/procedures [iwamatsu-san]13:00
jkiI think this is done now13:01
jkiI should have stated "discuss how to re-use things"...13:01
jkiwe can do under AOB13:01
jki- ask for adjusting reply-to setting on CIP MLs [jan]13:02
jkidone, changes should be effective13:02
jkican someone confirm this?13:02
jkipavel: you asked for it13:03
pave1yep. I guess mark this as done13:03
patersoncIf I "reply" to an email sent to cip-dev the reply address is now the original sender not the ML13:03
patersoncSo it's working13:03
pave1and I'll verify it over the week.13:04
jkireply-to-all is what you should always use on lists ;)13:04
jkigood13:04
jkiany other AIs?13:04
patersoncreply-to-all also does as expected13:04
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jki#topic Kernel maintenance updates13:05
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masamiThis week reported 23 new CVEs and 6 updated CVEs.13:05
pave1I was reviewing 6.1.133 and .13413:05
uli_working on 4.413:05
iwamatsu__I reviewed 6.1.133, and reviewing .13213:05
jkianything else?13:07
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jki#topic Kernel release status13:08
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jkiall lights are green13:08
jkiany issues ahead?13:08
jkiif not13:09
pave1not really. 6.1-rt releases are now more than 4 weeks apart13:09
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jkido we know why?13:09
pave1so we might want to use 6.12 tree as an excuse13:09
pave1to do -cip-rt less often.13:09
pave1No idea why. I guess maintainer workload.13:10
jkiI still want you to talk to them from time to time13:10
jkinot yet partiticpating in their meetups, right?13:10
jkicould be helpful...13:11
pave1right, should do that I guess.13:11
jkiyes, please13:11
jkiok, then let's move on13:12
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jki#topic Kernel testing13:12
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arisutno updates from me, still working on moving the configurations to KernelCI13:12
patersoncNothing from me either13:13
jkiall test pipelines running smoothly?13:13
pave1I do have to hit retry on gitlab, usually.13:14
pave1plus 6.14 is out, would be nice to test it.13:14
jkithe retry need is new?13:15
patersoncsame issue as always13:15
pave1no. that's long-standing. but would not mind if it went away.13:15
jkiunderstandable13:16
jkianyone with some cycles who could have a look?13:17
jkiseems not - maybe hit retry the other week on this ;)13:19
jkianything else on testing?13:19
pave1will retry in month or so :)13:19
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jki#topic AOB13:19
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jkitwo topics on my list13:20
jkirelease scripting consolidation - where are we?13:20
pave1I need to take a look at Iwamatsu-san's scripts.13:20
jkithen you just gained an AI ;)13:20
jkiok13:21
pave1:-)13:21
jkiuli_: you already picked something up, or what was the status?13:21
iwamatsu__pave1: if you have a issue and question, please let me know.13:21
uli_i use the scripts in lts-commit-list13:21
uli_that's pretty much it13:21
jkicool13:22
jkigood, then let's revisit after pavel had a look as well13:22
jkisecond topic: 6.12-cip release, roadmap and preconditions13:22
pave1testing seems ok, we are already taking patches to 6.1 and 6.1213:23
jkigiven that we have patches in 6.12-cip, a release would be justified, I guess13:24
jkianything missing for that?13:24
pave1configs should be confirmed by the members, wiki page update13:24
jkido we need to discuss release cadences for 6.1?13:25
jkiright, configs...13:25
jkiand https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/ciptesting/cipreferencehardware13:25
iwamatsu__about configs, I got mail from renesas.13:25
pave1and yes, it seems to be rigght time to reduce 6.1 cadence :-)13:26
jkibut reference hw can start small, then grow13:26
pave1and decide who is responsible for tree and releases.13:27
jki6.12-rt topic is also to finalize then13:27
jkiwe still have no real feedback for that, I guess13:28
jkiarm32 support, sched lazy...13:28
pave1I'd say no 6.12-rt tree and see what happens.13:28
jkiso, ask interested members to propose missing RT features for backport?13:29
pave1yes.13:29
jkithen let me summerize what should be proposed/discussed during next TSC:13:29
jki- reference boards (qemu is set - what else?)13:30
jki- confirm / propose configs for 6.1213:30
jki- reduce release cadence of 6.1 to 1 (vanilla) and 0.5 (rt) per month?13:30
jki- no rt tree, members should propose missing RT features as backports to 6.12-cip13:31
jkianything else?13:31
pave1- confirm cadence of 6.12 twice a month13:31
jkigood point13:32
pave1- decide who is responsible for tree and releases (tsc or here)13:32
jkiah: maintainer will be....13:32
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jkithat is something we as kernel WG need to tell13:32
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jkiiwamatsu__: would you have the capacity for that?13:33
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iwamatsu__Probably okay.13:33
jkiwe can always rearrange things if they do not work anymore13:34
pave1so model stays them as 6.1, with me + iwamatsu-san maintaining the tree13:34
pave1and mostly iwamatsu-san doing the releases?13:34
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iwamatsu__Yes, that's fine.13:35
iwamatsu__to me13:35
pave1fine with me, too.13:36
jkipavel: I suspect your efforts will go up as well, even if there is not dedicated 6.12-rt13:36
jkiwith 4.4 and 4.19-rt self-maintained13:36
pave1yep.13:37
jkiplus potential rt backports to 6.12 if we take extras there13:37
jkiok13:37
jkithen we have a rough plan and some food for discussion at the next TSC13:37
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jkiany other topics for today?13:38
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jki#endmeeting13:40
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jkithanks all!13:40
pave1thank you!13:40
uli_thanks13:40
iwamatsu__thank you13:40
masamithank you13:40
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patersoncpave1: linux-6.14.y stable-rc CI support has now been added13:40
pave1thanks, that was fast.13:40
arisutthx13:41
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