Thursday, 2025-04-24

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jkihi everyone12:59
masamihello13:00
arisuthi13:00
iwamatsu__hello13:00
jkiok, let's start13:01
jki#startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting13:01
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patersoncHey13:01
jki#topic AI review13:01
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jki- write docs for release scripts [iwamatsu-san]13:01
iwamatsu__I am updating it , but not finish.13:02
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jki#topic Kernel maintenance updates13:02
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pave1Hi!13:03
uli_i pushed 4.413:03
masamiThis week reported 28 new CVEs and 4 updated CVEs.13:03
pave1I'm reviewing 6.1.135.13:03
iwamatsu__I reviewed 6.1.13213:03
jkianything else to add?13:05
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jki#topic Kernel release status13:05
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jkiall on track13:05
jkianything to add?13:06
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jki#topic Kernel testing13:06
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arisutlooking into why kernelci is not using cip configurations anymore looks like after moving from kernelci legacy to pipeline we loose the cip configuration settings13:07
patersoncI updated the stable-rc testing so we're testing the v6.14 and 6.15 etc.13:08
arisutI'm currently trying to restore the configuration to kernelci pipeline13:08
patersoncThanks Arisu-san13:09
arisutpatersonc, any idea on why https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-pipeline/pull/840 is missing the cip:// configurations?13:10
patersoncI guess the plan was to add them later but didn't13:11
arisutok thanks13:11
patersoncNo technical reason - I just didn't try13:11
arisutI see, I will try to restore it on pipeline13:12
arisutalso I think we want to run exclusively cip:// configurations13:13
arisutgitlab is testing only cip configurations I suppose13:13
arisutKernelci should do same13:14
patersoncWe also test some defconfigs in CIP13:14
arisutoh really?13:14
patersoncBut technically we only support CIP configs13:14
arisutI see so we build defconfigs and cip configs13:15
jkiproblem is likely not testing - it's evaluating the results13:15
jkiwill we look at defconfig errors?13:15
arisutso less results is better ?13:15
pave1We don't want to introduce regressions.13:15
arisutcurerntly we are looking at defconfig ?13:16
arisuton gitlab13:16
pave1If we introduced a bug so bad it affect defconfig, I'd really wanted us to investigate.13:16
jkithen let's test defconfigs if maintainers do bother - fine13:16
arisutdo you mean defconfig run only at needed ?13:16
arisutbut usually don't get tested ?13:17
patersoncI would assume that generic users are more likely to try defconfig as a first step than CIP configs as they are in-tree13:17
pave1We do look at gitconfigs on the gitlab. bbb_defconfig is normally only one that needs to be retried.13:17
patersoncarisut: defconfig is always run13:17
arisutwe have generic users ? by policy cip is only supported on cip configurations afaik13:18
pave1arisut: People are using our kernels, yes. We got some patches for 4.X because we broke audio on phones or something like that.13:19
arisuti see thanks13:19
pave1arisut: Catching bugs early is quite cheap. Catching it after it is in tree for a year is less fun.13:19
pave1arisut: But yes, supported configs on supported boards is only thing we officially support.13:20
arisutbut referring to jki "problem is not testing, it's evaluating the results"13:20
arisutmore things we tests more we have results to evaluate13:21
jkiwe can obviously revisit configs if they stay in permant failures, and no one looks at those13:22
pave1arisut: Yes. Current gitlab setup makes it reasonably easy.13:22
arisutI'm ok on enabling defconfig and cip config13:22
patersoncSounds good Arisu13:22
arisutpave1, current kernelci have a system for sending only regressions13:22
pave1arisut: Yes, so regressions are what we really care about. If we break boot on arm64_defconfig,13:23
pave1it is quite a big deal.13:23
arisutthat i shared weeks ago and I don't find the link now13:23
arisutwe are sending mail with only the board that have regression13:24
arisutalso dashboard is becoming better https://d.kernelci.org/tree13:24
jkiok - anything to add regarding this or testing in general?13:25
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jki#topic AOB13:26
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jkijust a recap: we have green lights to release 6.12-cip when we think it is ready13:27
jkiTSC approved13:27
pave1This may be good time.13:27
patersoncAny objections to adding the 6.12 tree to KernelCI?13:28
jkiwell, rather a precondition ;-)13:28
iwamatsu__I will not be able to attend the next meeting. Japan is holiday season.13:29
jki4.19.124-cip27 and 4.19.216-cip61, rcu stall on one cpu, apparently over held hb spinlock in futex_wake13:30
jkidoes that ring any bells by chance?13:31
pave1"bh"?13:31
pave1No, not really.13:31
jkihash bucket lock13:31
pave1Aha, so not a bottom half. Still no bells.13:32
jkibut there are no suspicious changes on kernel/futex.c, also in newer kernels13:32
jkiok - we need to hope for better reproducibility then13:32
jkianything else for today?13:32
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pave1So ... we wait for KernelCI13:33
pave1with the 6.12?13:33
patersoncShouldn't be a big job to add13:34
jkiyou likely mean our linux-6.12.y-cip branch, right?13:34
patersoncI'll create an MR today13:34
patersoncjki: Yes13:34
jkiperfect13:34
pave1I guess I could do 6.12 release with current tree (no version update, yet) after the KernelCI is ready13:35
pave1if everyone is ok with that?13:35
patersoncDid we get the configs we need from members?13:36
iwamatsu__I got some MR for 6.12. I am checking it.13:36
jkithat's for qemu and x86 targets13:37
patersoncThere's another for Renesas arm6413:37
jkiah, right13:38
jkiall those should be considered for kernelci13:39
patersoncI'll just add defconfig today - then Arisu can add the CIP configs at the same time as the other branches13:40
patersoncWe don't have a 6.12-cip-rt yet right?13:41
pave1There won't be 6.12-cip-rt tree.13:42
pave1But we should probably do some configs with rt enabled.13:42
jkiindeed13:42
arisutpatersonc, ok13:42
pave1So I guess we revisit 6.12-cip1 next week? :-)13:43
jkisure - except that we will need iwamatsu-san for the final decision, and he will be off13:45
jkibut let's prepare the testing and configs and see when that is ready13:45
jkianything else?13:47
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jki#endmeeting13:48
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jkithank you all!13:48
arisutthx13:48
uli_thanks13:48
pave1Thank you!13:48
iwamatsu__I think the blocker is probably config, but it will fix tomorrow.13:48
masamithank you13:48
iwamatsu__Thank you.13:48
pave1Hmm. May 1 and May 8 are holidays here, too.13:48
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jkiand enjoy holidays in japan!13:48
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pave1So don't be too surprised if I don't make it.13:48
iwamatsu__:-)13:49
patersoncarisut: Should we be limiting the arches used for CIP? It looks like we build for all as we extend "base"13:51
patersonchttps://github.com/patersonc/kernelci-pipeline/blob/main/config/trees.yaml#L413:52
patersoncPresumably we want "base-standard" plus riscv for the newer kernels?13:52
patersoncPR created: https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-pipeline/pull/113014:20
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arisutyes we should limit the arch to only the one we use23:50
arisutfor CIP23:50

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