Wednesday, 2026-01-28

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ysionneauHi, I have question about CIP branch names10:40
ysionneauI get that linux-4.19.y-cip is the normal (non RT) cip release branch10:40
ysionneaubut what is linux-4.19.y-st ? and linux-4.19.y-st-rc ? (latter is release candidate , I guess)10:41
patersoncHi!  The -st branches are CIP's version of Linux stable for kernel versions that are no longer maintained by the linux-stable project. These branches don't contain new features (hardware support) added by CIP. These are only present in the -cip branches.10:42
patersoncso, mainline 4.19 > linux-stable 4.19.y > (goes EOL) > linux-4.19.y-st-rc > linux-4.19.y-st > linux-4.19.y-cip10:44
patersoncWhen linux-stable is still maintaining a kernel, it becomes more like: so, mainline 6.12 > linux-stable 6.12.y  > linux-6.12.y-cip10:45
ysionneauso, for 4.19, the equivalent of what gkh did for the stable when it was still maintained by him, is now done by cip people in linux-4.19.y-st-rc/linux-4.19.y-st10:46
ysionneauand linux-4.19.y-cip is for new features10:46
ysionneaubut it also gets the output from linux-4.19.y-st10:46
ysionneaupeople do really still add new features in linux-4.19.y-cip ?10:46
patersonclinux-4.19.y-st isn't quite the same as gkh's version. CIP only maintains a subset of the kernel as determined by the project members. For example only some architectures are maintained10:49
ysionneauok so the scope is reduced but it's the general idea of cherry-picking mainline "FIXES"10:50
patersoncThe new features are only hardware support for new devices, I'm not sure any new "features" have ever been backported.10:50
ysionneauok10:50
patersoncEverything that goes into a normal linux-stable LTS release gets added to the CIP kernels. Once LTS goes end of life the CIP maintainers look at the nearest LTS still maintained as  a guide (plus other sources) of what to backport.10:51
patersoncThe CIP kernel maintainers can probably give a more complete summary then me :P10:52
ysionneauoh so it's not direct backport from mainline but backport from LTS10:52
ysionneauok interesting :)10:52
ysionneauthanks a lot!10:52
patersoncHappy to help10:53
ysionneaupatersonc: oh, I see you work for Renesas, I almost got recruited beginning of 2025 to work in the Linux team in UK :)10:54
ysionneaubut timing was bad and I ended up somewhere else10:55
patersonc:D10:55
ysionneauI'm guessing I would have been in the same team10:55
ysionneauI think the manager was David or something10:55
patersoncYep10:55
ysionneaufun!10:56
patersoncEvery day :P10:57
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