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| jki | hi all | 11:59 |
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| uli_ | hello | 12:00 |
| masami | hi | 12:00 |
| iwamatsu | hello | 12:00 |
| pave1 | hi | 12:00 |
| patersonc | Hey | 12:00 |
| jki | #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting | 12:00 |
| collab-meetbot | Meeting started Thu Apr 23 12:00:47 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| collab-meetbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| collab-meetbot | The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' | 12:00 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:00 | |
| jki | #topic AI review | 12:00 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to "AI review (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:00 | |
| jki | no Action Items (we will come to other AI later ;)) | 12:01 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel maintenance updates | 12:01 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to "Kernel maintenance updates (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:01 | |
| uli_ | i've been working on 4.4 | 12:01 |
| masami | This week reported 102 new CVEs and 132 updated CVEs. | 12:01 |
| iwamatsu | I reviewed 6.12.80. | 12:02 |
| pave1 | I am reviewing 6.12.82 and 83 | 12:02 |
| jki | anything to add? | 12:03 |
| jki | 5 | 12:03 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel release status | 12:04 |
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| jki | 4.4 is now quite late but almost done, right? | 12:04 |
| uli_ | reviews are in, so i expect to be able to push it tomorrow | 12:04 |
| jki | was there a particular reason for the delay? | 12:04 |
| uli_ | more backports than expected. many things went into 4.19 cleanly but had to be backported for 4.4 | 12:05 |
| uli_ | usually that is not the case, or at least to a much lower extent | 12:05 |
| jki | ok, please speak up early if it repeats | 12:05 |
| uli_ | ok | 12:06 |
| jki | if workload grows, we need to flag that | 12:06 |
| jki | before being boiled alive ;) | 12:06 |
| uli_ | it varies between releases, sometimes dramatically | 12:06 |
| uli_ | can't really predict that | 12:07 |
| jki | sure, but in that case one question would be if there is chance to scale out the work | 12:07 |
| jki | have more hands when needed | 12:07 |
| uli_ | not sure. for the last release, 4.4 was very little effort, iirc i released it on the same day as 4.19 or something like that | 12:08 |
| jki | anyway, let's just monitor carefully | 12:09 |
| jki | anything else? | 12:09 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel testing | 12:10 |
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| patersonc | Not much from me. | 12:11 |
| arisut | not much from me, applied kernel testing and dependability MC for LPC 2026 | 12:11 |
| patersonc | iwamatsu: your lab is currently offline, could you take a look when you get a chance? | 12:11 |
| iwamatsu | patersonc: I will check after this meeting. | 12:11 |
| patersonc | Thanks | 12:11 |
| jki | just reminded Pasquale of the prague lab state... | 12:12 |
| patersonc | Thanks | 12:13 |
| jki | more testing topics? | 12:14 |
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| jki | #topic AOB | 12:15 |
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| jki | Glasswing topics from kernel and testing perspective - just a reminder for my email | 12:15 |
| jki | if you have anything to discuss here already, go ahead | 12:16 |
| jki | timeline is still unclear, though | 12:16 |
| pave1 | Just be sure thete is human sending issues to us | 12:16 |
| pave1 | so we can tell him to stop. | 12:17 |
| pave1 | We already have source of low quality issues | 12:17 |
| jki | might be me in the end - you may even shout then ;) | 12:17 |
| uli_ | +1. i use llms extensively, but that's me controlling the ai. if somebody else sent me false positives, i'd become very annoyed very quickly. | 12:17 |
| pave1 | - CVE. | 12:18 |
| pave1 | Yeah, I seen you volunteering. | 12:18 |
| pave1 | Just make sure there's human on | 12:18 |
| jki | I would expect to 2-phase process: learn based on few examples what it can do, then scale up, or down | 12:18 |
| pave1 | the other end, too. | 12:18 |
| jki | Glasswing access is apparently always operated by one individual, human, per participating LF project | 12:19 |
| jki | they told us this is by design, to have many projects benefiting, rather than few with more bandwidth | 12:20 |
| pave1 | So no human oversight at the other end? | 12:20 |
| jki | the humans in there are LF project representatives | 12:21 |
| jki | the give prompts and (pre-)process the results, then decide what to do with them (simplified) | 12:22 |
| jki | I haven't seen any written conditions yet, remains a bit speculation | 12:22 |
| pave1 | I'd ask someone on AI side to do at least pre-processing. | 12:23 |
| uli_ | that would be a massive manual effort; i'm sure they will leave that to us... | 12:24 |
| jki | they (Anthropic) just to the operation and safety supervision here - again only my current understanding | 12:24 |
| jki | yep | 12:24 |
| jki | but it will remain fully up to us as project to which degree we make use of it, or can do that if we are limited in time/hands | 12:25 |
| jki | so, representative depth first, then discuss if/how to go wide | 12:26 |
| jki | if you have done past experiments with moderate success, those could be retried e.g. | 12:26 |
| jki | if you have harder questions to ask that were not possible so far (or too expensive), let's try one of them | 12:27 |
| jki | etc... | 12:27 |
| jki | other topics for today? | 12:29 |
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| jki | #endmeeting | 12:30 |
| collab-meetbot | Meeting ended Thu Apr 23 12:30:16 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:30 |
| collab-meetbot | Minutes: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/04/cip.2026-04-23-12.00.html | 12:30 |
| collab-meetbot | Minutes (text): http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/04/cip.2026-04-23-12.00.txt | 12:30 |
| collab-meetbot | Log: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/04/cip.2026-04-23-12.00.log.html | 12:30 |
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| jki | thanks all! | 12:30 |
| uli_ | thanks | 12:30 |
| iwamatsu | Thank you | 12:30 |
| masami | thank you | 12:30 |
| pave1 | thanks! | 12:30 |
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