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| jki | hi all | 12:00 |
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| iwamatsu | hello | 12:00 |
| uli_ | hello | 12:00 |
| masami | hello | 12:00 |
| jki | #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting | 12:01 |
| collab-meetbot` | Meeting started Thu May 14 12:01:11 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:01 |
| collab-meetbot` | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:01 |
| collab-meetbot` | The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' | 12:01 |
| *** collab-meetbot` changes topic to " (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:01 | |
| jki | #topic AI review | 12:01 |
| *** collab-meetbot` changes topic to "AI review (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:01 | |
| jki | none | 12:01 |
| jki | 5 | 12:01 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel maintenance updates | 12:01 |
| *** collab-meetbot` changes topic to "Kernel maintenance updates (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:01 | |
| masami | This week reported 215 new CVEs and 7 updated CVEs. | 12:01 |
| uli_ | i'm working on the next 4.4 | 12:01 |
| iwamatsu | I reiviewed 6.12.82. | 12:02 |
| jki | what's the state of dirty frag and the rxrpc thing in our queues? | 12:03 |
| uli_ | 4.19 is affected by one of the two issues; the 5.10 patch applies without changes | 12:03 |
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| uli_ | 4.4 is not affacted | 12:03 |
| uli_ | affected | 12:03 |
| pave1 | I am reviewing 6.12.68, .88 | 12:04 |
| jki | so, handle like copy fail and release earlier as well? | 12:05 |
| jki | all stable kernels should be fixed by now IIUC | 12:05 |
| jki | or only propose mitigations to our users (disable feature/module)? | 12:05 |
| pave1 | We probably should do that. | 12:05 |
| pave1 | Releases. | 12:06 |
| iwamatsu | +1 | 12:06 |
| jki | ok | 12:06 |
| uli_ | no opinion myself, i'm ok either way | 12:06 |
| pave1 | It would help if we knew if there's another one | 12:06 |
| pave1 | pending. | 12:06 |
| uli_ | there is cve-2026-46300 | 12:07 |
| uli_ | fix is not in mainline yet | 12:07 |
| masami | yes. it is another Dirty Frag vulnerability class | 12:07 |
| jki | which one is that? | 12:07 |
| iwamatsu | https://github.com/v12-security/pocs/tree/main/fragnesia | 12:07 |
| masami | mitigation is same as for dirtyfrag | 12:09 |
| jki | "nice" | 12:09 |
| jki | is a patch under discussion at least? | 12:09 |
| uli_ | https://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2026/05/13/79 | 12:10 |
| jki | just spotted it, looking for a thread now | 12:10 |
| jki | well, might be worth to wait a day then, no? | 12:11 |
| uli_ | i would say so | 12:11 |
| pave1 | agreed. | 12:11 |
| jki | but the other fixes could be staged already | 12:12 |
| jki | okay (or not...) | 12:13 |
| jki | more on maintenance? | 12:13 |
| patersonc | cbeznea_ posted a fix for the USB issue that is broken currently in CIP 5.10: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260514111300.2152386-1-claudiu.beznea@kernel.org/. Do we want to fix something directly in CIP? Or wait for it to filter through LTS? I'm keen to get CIP booting again... | 12:13 |
| iwamatsu | We need to wait for the LTS version that apply it. | 12:15 |
| pave1 | We should probably merge something before next release. | 12:15 |
| iwamatsu | If it's applied , should we cherry-pick it without waiting for LTS? | 12:16 |
| patersonc | LTS would probably be faster than getting it into mainline :) | 12:17 |
| pave1 | I'd say so. We have regression on supported board. | 12:17 |
| pave1 | We can make exceptions here. | 12:17 |
| cbeznea_ | the stable v5.10 backport that triggered the issue we are seeing currently with CIP 5.10 was wrong, as Pavel pointed out in the thread https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260501225859.504868-1-nobuhiro.iwamatsu.x90@mail.toshiba . Maybe we could pick this small fix until the mainline is fixed. The USB PHY tend to be slow even for fixes | 12:18 |
| jki | so, the workaround of spinning instead of sleeping was not accepted? | 12:18 |
| jki | IIRC, that was only aligning to current mainline, and it would be gone again after that more complex solution above is accepted | 12:19 |
| cbeznea_ | I checked 5.10 stable trees few days ago but didn't notice any fix integrated | 12:19 |
| pave1 | Agreed it is right workaround but Greg did not react to followup mail. | 12:20 |
| pave1 | We should just take msleep -> mdelay into cip. | 12:20 |
| pave1 | And let mainline / stable figure out better fix once | 12:21 |
| pave1 | our boards are booting. | 12:21 |
| iwamatsu | OK, agree. | 12:22 |
| jki | perfect | 12:22 |
| patersonc | Thanks | 12:22 |
| cbeznea_ | thanks! | 12:22 |
| iwamatsu | Now, let's apply the mdelay patch to fix the problem. | 12:23 |
| jki | https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/agRhFtawP06hWyRa@v4bel/ - more frag stuff, unclear if exploitable at this point | 12:23 |
| jki | let's cross fingers that we won't have to switch to weekly releases... | 12:24 |
| jki | ...or even more | 12:24 |
| pave1 | At some point we'll declare | 12:25 |
| pave1 | that local exploits can wait.... | 12:25 |
| pave1 | But hopefully this should fly over in month or so. | 12:26 |
| jki | the patterns may repeat: find a new vul-class, start AI, find lots of instances in short time, with exploits | 12:27 |
| pave1 | Yep. | 12:27 |
| jki | so, move on? | 12:27 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel release status | 12:28 |
| *** collab-meetbot` changes topic to "Kernel release status (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:28 | |
| jki | all fine, but we know, why... | 12:28 |
| jki | anything to add? | 12:28 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel testing | 12:29 |
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| arisut | nothing to add | 12:29 |
| patersonc | We now have stable-rc testing for 7.0.y | 12:29 |
| pave1 | That was today? | 12:30 |
| patersonc | Yes | 12:30 |
| pave1 | Aha, good, thanks! | 12:31 |
| jki | more on testing? | 12:32 |
| patersonc | Not from me | 12:33 |
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| jki | #topic AOB | 12:33 |
| *** collab-meetbot` changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:33 | |
| jki | further topics for today? | 12:34 |
| jki | if not... | 12:35 |
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| jki | #endmeeting | 12:35 |
| collab-meetbot` | Meeting ended Thu May 14 12:35:21 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:35 |
| collab-meetbot` | Minutes: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/05/cip.2026-05-14-12.01.html | 12:35 |
| collab-meetbot` | Minutes (text): http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/05/cip.2026-05-14-12.01.txt | 12:35 |
| collab-meetbot` | Log: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/05/cip.2026-05-14-12.01.log.html | 12:35 |
| *** collab-meetbot` changes topic to "Civil Infrastructure Platform Project. CIP mailing list at https://lists.cip-project.org/g/cip-dev | CIP kernel meeting every Thursday at 13:00 UTC | Find the meeting logs at https://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/ and chat logs at https://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/logs/%23cip/" | 12:35 | |
| jki | thanks all! | 12:35 |
| iwamatsu | Thank you | 12:35 |
| uli_ | thanks | 12:35 |
| masami | thank you | 12:35 |
| arisut | thanks | 12:35 |
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| pave1 | Thank you! | 12:35 |
| patersonc | cheers | 12:35 |
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