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| jki | hi everyone | 11:59 |
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| pave1 | hi! | 11:59 |
| uli | hello | 11:59 |
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| jki | let's start the show | 12:00 |
| jki | #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting | 12:00 |
| collab-meetbot | Meeting started Thu Aug 20 12:00:55 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| collab-meetbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| collab-meetbot | The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' | 12:00 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:00 | |
| jki | #topic AI review | 12:01 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to "AI review (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:01 | |
| jki | nothing on the list - but I notice that there if a namespace collision now :D | 12:01 |
| jki | "AI review"... | 12:01 |
| jki | anyway | 12:01 |
| uli | :) | 12:01 |
| jki | 5 | 12:01 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel maintenance updates | 12:02 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to "Kernel maintenance updates (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:02 | |
| uli | i pushed 4.4 | 12:02 |
| pave1 | AI should really be called "LLM". | 12:02 |
| pave1 | I did reviews, 6.12.103 and 104. | 12:02 |
| masami | This week reported 854 new CVEs and 43 updated CVEs. | 12:02 |
| jki | normal numbers again, nice | 12:02 |
| iwamatsu85 | hello | 12:03 |
| iwamatsu85 | I did not work on this week. | 12:04 |
| iwamatsu85 | beacause I was on vacation. | 12:04 |
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| jki | hope you enjoyed | 12:05 |
| iwamatsu__ | :-) | 12:05 |
| jki | anything else to add? | 12:05 |
| jki | 5 | 12:05 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel release status | 12:06 |
| *** collab-meetbot changes topic to "Kernel release status (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 12:06 | |
| jki | 6.1-rt was late - when I looked | 12:06 |
| pave1 | rt did suitable 6.1-rt, so ... I was lucky this time. | 12:06 |
| jki | now we are fine | 12:06 |
| jki | perfect | 12:06 |
| jki | next to release would be 6.12 | 12:06 |
| jki | anything else on this? | 12:07 |
| pave1 | and I guess 4.4-rt. | 12:07 |
| pave1 | No need to wait when -cip is available. | 12:07 |
| jki | 4.4-rt is only due in september | 12:07 |
| jki | is it out of sync? | 12:08 |
| pave1 | aha, my notes say Aug 30, I'll double check. | 12:08 |
| pave1 | sorry, likely my mistake. | 12:08 |
| jki | all fine | 12:08 |
| jki | then let's move on | 12:09 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel testing | 12:09 |
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| patersonc | Hello | 12:09 |
| patersonc | The Ti LAVA lab is currently offline for maintenance | 12:10 |
| patersonc | Not sure I have any other news | 12:10 |
| jki | lava master had issues last Friday - did it auto-recover? | 12:10 |
| patersonc | Yes, leter on Friday. I couldn't find a cause tbh | 12:11 |
| jki | could be worse | 12:11 |
| jki | ok, other topics for testing? | 12:12 |
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| iwamatsu__ | https://lava.ciplatform.org/scheduler/device/qemu-prg-01 appears to be a configuration issue. Could you please check it? | 12:12 |
| jki | will forward this notice, yes | 12:13 |
| iwamatsu__ | Thanks | 12:13 |
| jki | BTW, "Physical access Nobuhiro Iwamatsu" - not quite correct | 12:13 |
| jki | I've seen that with more devices / labs | 12:13 |
| jki | patersonc: who can fix that? | 12:14 |
| patersonc | That worker needs to have `use_docker: true` set. Can only be done by the lab owner | 12:14 |
| patersonc | We've had this issue before | 12:14 |
| jki | No, I was referring to that description entry | 12:15 |
| jki | but that other hint is also useful, forwarded as well | 12:15 |
| patersonc | Oh I see - not sure how some boards have been assigned to Iwamatsu-san. I can fix this in the admin interface | 12:16 |
| jki | TIA! | 12:16 |
| jki | then move on | 12:17 |
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| jki | #topic AOB | 12:17 |
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| jki | - LLM review tool news | 12:17 |
| uli | the sltr scripts needed a bit of a fix for the new server setup | 12:17 |
| uli | pushed it this morning and sent an email | 12:17 |
| pave1 | I got enough setup to talk to LLM via web interface. | 12:18 |
| pave1 | Well, it is a LLM. :-) | 12:18 |
| jki | then it's probably answering ;) | 12:18 |
| uli | michael set the default to qwen 3.8. i haven't tried that at all yet. | 12:19 |
| pave1 | Yeah. I have seen better models and I have seen worse models. Evaluating them is hard. | 12:19 |
| uli | i have a set of known-good and known-bad patches on top of 4.19 that i use for evaluation | 12:20 |
| pave1 | That's a way to go. | 12:20 |
| uli | i wonder how/where i can put them up so they won't be confused with actual patches | 12:20 |
| uli | because they need to look realistic i cannot change authors or commit messages etc. | 12:20 |
| pave1 | Are we evaluating for "will it break things" or "does it match stable kernel criteria"? | 12:20 |
| uli | for the default prompt it's the former | 12:20 |
| uli | but you can put whatever you want in it, of course | 12:21 |
| uli | i'm using it, among other things, to check if i accidentally pasted my passwords or keys in the commit message :) | 12:21 |
| pave1 | Yeah, LLMs are versatile. | 12:21 |
| jki | put those tests in a separate kernel tree, or just separate, clearly named branches? | 12:22 |
| pave1 | jki: We don't want llm to find that tree :-) | 12:22 |
| pave1 | I was thinking "highlight me patches where description says it is not for stable". | 12:22 |
| pave1 | And perhaps patches having stable-dep-of: are useful as a test set, they don't usually match the published stable kernel rules. | 12:23 |
| jki | you cannot prevent that future trainings will find today's public work | 12:23 |
| jki | and it may even be useful | 12:23 |
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| jki | but during the inference, that may not be the case - and it could be avoided by working offline, against a local checkout | 12:24 |
| uli | what does a patch description say when it's _not_ for stable? i only know "Cc: stable", which is the opposite. | 12:24 |
| pave1 | uli: People usually say something like "this does not fix a bug so don't put it into stable". There's | 12:26 |
| pave1 | no common tag, and that's why LLM could be useful. | 12:26 |
| uli | write something like "analyze the commit message and determine if the commit is intended and suitable for inclusion in the stable kernel tree." and then add some criteria. | 12:27 |
| uli | should work | 12:27 |
| pave1 | ok. | 12:28 |
| jki | ... and then review and fine-tune the criteria - or let the LLM look into past decisions | 12:28 |
| jki | good - more on this? | 12:29 |
| jki | ...or other AOBs? | 12:30 |
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| jki | #endmeeting | 12:30 |
| collab-meetbot | Meeting ended Thu Aug 20 12:30:53 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:30 |
| collab-meetbot | Minutes: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/08/cip.2026-08-20-12.00.html | 12:30 |
| collab-meetbot | Minutes (text): http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/08/cip.2026-08-20-12.00.txt | 12:30 |
| collab-meetbot | Log: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2026/08/cip.2026-08-20-12.00.log.html | 12:30 |
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| jki | thanks! | 12:30 |
| iwamatsu__ | Thank you | 12:30 |
| uli | thanks | 12:31 |
| masami | thank you | 12:31 |
| pave1 | thank you! | 12:31 |
| patersonc | iwamatsu__: Do you know how you became the "physical owner" for so many devices? | 12:32 |
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| iwamatsu__ | patersonc: No, I'm not sure the reason for that. | 12:33 |
| patersonc | Okay. I'll go through and fix them all to the correct person | 12:35 |
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| patersonc | Fixed | 12:45 |
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