=========================== #acumos-meeting: Acumos TSC =========================== Meeting started by bryan_att at 13:01:40 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/acumos-meeting/2018/acumos-meeting.2018-04-23-13.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Nat TechM (bryan_att, 13:01:51) * Bryan Sullivan (bryan_att, 13:02:37) * Michael Rooke, Nokia (NokMikeR, 13:03:57) * valderrv (valderrv, 13:06:40) * RollCall (bryan_att, 13:08:58) * Michael Rookke (bryan_att, 13:09:33) * Review Meeting Minutes (aimeeu, 13:13:04) * - Scott: we don't have a quorum, so minutes approval is moved to next week (aimeeu, 13:13:33) * Agenda Bashing (aimeeu, 13:13:41) * Scott Nichols (LF) reviews agenda (aimeeu, 13:14:17) * Status of Open Action Items (aimeeu, 13:14:29) * Pantelis is absent, so release naming update will be next week (aimeeu, 13:15:06) * Etherpad update: Vanessa gives update: installation in about 2 weeks (aimeeu, 13:16:36) * Technical Community Document review (aimeeu, 13:18:30) * document was created and sent to the TSC private list as a way to reach all the TSC members (aimeeu, 13:19:53) * ACTION: Aimee will add document and link to TSC page (aimeeu, 13:20:09) * Scott reminds everyone where the Acumos Technical Charter can be found #link https://www.acumos.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/61/2018/03/charter_acumos_mar2018.pdf (aimeeu, 13:21:21) * discussion on whether to have more review discussion (aimeeu, 13:22:22) * Paul-Andre Raymond suggests sharing the document with the Community for wider input (aimeeu, 13:22:43) * Subcommittees (aimeeu, 13:23:10) * Bryan summarizes subcommittee kickoff call (aimeeu, 13:23:26) * Bryan reviews where subcommittee pages are located on the wiki (aimeeu, 13:25:02) * Scott asks if 8 PDT is the regular time for the Architecture subcommittee meeting; Bryan says no and mentions creating Doodle polls to determine optimal times (aimeeu, 13:26:01) * Scott asks if there are subcommittee members ; Bryan answers that subcommittee members have not stepped forward and the Community is in the process of organizing membership in those committees (aimeeu, 13:27:29) * New Agenda Items (aimeeu, 13:27:55) * Open discussion with greater TSC on Release (aimeeu, 13:28:16) * Bryan mentions that this item originated with Pantels (aimeeu, 13:28:48) * correction: Pantelis (aimeeu, 13:28:57) * Bryan shows summary of subcommittee kickoff meeting on Architecture page #link https://wiki.acumos.org/display/AR/Meetings (aimeeu, 13:30:20) * discussion on need to formalize subcommittee mandates and rolls (aimeeu, 13:30:44) * Scott observes that subcommittee names should be focused on end user experience (aimeeu, 13:31:53) * Bryan: for Product subcommitte: what do we want the platform to be; Architecture: determines architecture; Product and Architecture committees work together to define release plan (aimeeu, 13:33:22) * Scott; where are we with formation of the committees; does TSC have requests? (aimeeu, 13:33:52) * Bryan: review the subcommittee information on the wiki and Community members propose people from their companies to be active subcommittee members (aimeeu, 13:34:49) * LINK: https://wiki.acumos.org/display/TSC/Subcommittees charters from TSC (aimeeu, 13:35:17) * LINK: https://wiki.acumos.org/display/ACCOM Acumos.org/Product subcommittee (aimeeu, 13:35:43) * LINK: https://wiki.acumos.org/display/AR Architecture subcommittee (aimeeu, 13:35:59) * LINK: https://wiki.acumos.org/display/SEC Security subcommittee (aimeeu, 13:36:12) * Update to Project/Repo proposed mapping (aimeeu, 13:36:33) * LINK: https://wiki.acumos.org/display/AC/Acumos+Architecture+Mapping+to+Repos+Jira+etc (aimeeu, 13:36:55) * Bryan summarizes the need to correctly map the current repos into the approved projects (aimeeu, 13:37:38) * Bryan: the Community needs to understand the process for shifting component repos between projects (aimeeu, 13:39:17) * Bryan: the Community needs to have a team approach to finalizing component repos into the Projects (aimeeu, 13:39:55) * Nat: offline discussion and then a separate meeting to realign and finalize the repos into Projects (aimeeu, 13:41:09) * Bryan volunteers to lead effort to finalize repos; asks for which companies will participate in addtion to AT&T and TM (aimeeu, 13:42:26) * ACTION: Bryan will organize additional meeting to discuss repos/Projects finalization (aimeeu, 13:42:58) * License and Security Check on Models (aimeeu, 13:43:35) * Bryan: the Community needs TSC input on whether models contributed to the Acumos marketplace need to be scanned for vulnerabilities and also have an appropriate license (aimeeu, 13:44:41) * Scott: when you look at a model contributed to the platform, what essentially are we looking at? code? documentation? (aimeeu, 13:46:09) * Bryan: both (aimeeu, 13:46:15) * Bryan shows the contents of a model downloaded from the portal marketplace (aimeeu, 13:46:59) * the model could be a combo of code, data, and docs (aimeeu, 13:47:31) * Scott: concern with license models; code would fall under Apache 2.0; docs would fall under Creative Commons (see Technical Charter); in other cases, the TSC can approve alternate licenses; approach how models are covered by first looking at the Technical Charter (aimeeu, 13:49:27) * Ofer: +1 to addressing licensing of contributed models; should be discussed by the Product subcommittee (aimeeu, 13:50:06) * Bryan: assumption that Technical Charter applied to code contributed to the platform, not to models, and asks for clarifictiaon (aimeeu, 13:51:16) * Scott: applies to models contributed to the public marketplace (the LF instance) (aimeeu, 13:51:54) * Bryan: are the models that are published to the LF instance are subject to the licenses in the Technical Charter? (aimeeu, 13:53:09) * that is Scott's understanding; again, if the TSC thinks that's not the right outcome, Community needs to work together to resolve (aimeeu, 13:54:23) * Paul-Andre: different understanding of contributed models: pieces of code contributed by users may be open source or have a different license; may be imported from federated instance; the user model is very different than contributing code to the platform; point: needs to be more debate on this subject (aimeeu, 13:55:40) * : Ofer +1 (aimeeu, 13:55:47) * Scott asks how to move conversation forward (aimeeu, 13:56:35) * Paul-Andre asks if this is for the Product committee to discuss (aimeeu, 13:57:02) * consensus is to have this discussed in the Product committee (aimeeu, 13:57:30) * Bryan: do we expect this ecosystem to take steps to NOT propagate malware in models? (aimeeu, 13:58:15) * Bryan: Product committee should also discuss safety of contributed models (aimeeu, 13:59:00) * ACTION: Product committee should discuss the above items (aimeeu, 13:59:43) * Planning for Next Meeting (aimeeu, 14:00:05) * mapping of project to release 1 - this can be discussed by the Product committee (aimeeu, 14:00:27) * question on if release plan for release 1 has been decided? (aimeeu, 14:01:00) * this has not occurred yet; this will be discussed in the Product committee (aimeeu, 14:01:21) * Jamil: asks when the release date is? (aimeeu, 14:01:43) * release date is scheduled for Nov 7, 2018 (aimeeu, 14:02:02) * Jamil: when will a release plan be finalized? (aimeeu, 14:02:16) * Community is still at the stage of soliciting input for the next release (aimeeu, 14:02:58) * we should come to an agreement by next week what components will in release 1 (aimeeu, 14:03:45) Meeting ended at 14:05:08 UTC. 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