14:06:16 #startmeeting Acumos Community (Product) Meeting 14:06:16 Meeting started Wed May 16 14:06:16 2018 UTC. The chair is bryan_att. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:06:16 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:06:16 The meeting name has been set to 'acumos_community__product__meeting' 14:06:28 #info Roll Call 14:06:38 #topic Roll Call 14:07:50 #info Bryan Sullivan 14:08:20 #chair bryan_att, aimeeu 14:08:20 Current chairs: aimeeu bryan_att 14:08:38 #info Agenda 14:08:54 #info Mission statement 14:09:51 #link https://wiki.acumos.org/display/MEET 14:11:25 #info High level process for product requirements 14:12:51 #info Licensing 14:13:42 #info Model name uniqueness 14:14:08 #topic Mission statement 14:16:30 #info Pantelis presents input sent in https://lists.acumos.org/g/acumosaicommunity/topic/strategic_positioning_of/19200063?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,19200063 14:22:09 #info Pantelis: Jamil proposed a plan for the 1st release in the TSC meeting last week, and the TSC agreed on the M0 date as May 21 (start of release planning); 14:22:16 #link https://wiki.acumos.org/download/attachments/4653595/Orange-TSC-Release%20A-2.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1525729143000&api=v2 14:22:34 #info Final release date Nov 7 14:23:24 #info Pantelis: so no specific date yet for M1, let's review the proposal 14:26:33 #info Pantelis: Acumos has too broad an initial scope per the mission statement on Acumos.org 14:27:08 #info Pantelis: propose two things for Acumos: (1) orchestration; (2) marketplace 14:29:59 #info Bryan: it seems the proposed mission statement is broader / more ambitious than the current 14:30:16 #info Ofer: also not clear what is meant by the orchestrator 14:31:40 #info Pantelis describes the user/contributor role diagram from his document 14:34:37 #info Bryan: the roles on the right of the diagram seem beyond the current Acumos scope, into the application/business domain addressing goals of specific business application of AI models 14:37:45 #info Bryan: the right side roles seem more related to e.g. ONAP for the Telecom domain, other orgs probably for other domains 14:40:17 #info Ofer: this seems intended to define different goals for Acumos 14:41:43 #info Pantelis: the paper focuses on differentiation for Acumos 14:43:20 #info Jamil: the term orchestrator is somewhat confusing - orchestrator is a function of the platform e.g. in ONAP 14:44:48 #info Jamil: re the roles on the diagram right, it may be interesting to expand focus to this role; others (e.g. infra) are probably better beyond Acumos 14:46:42 #info Pantelis: suggest some high level requirements be written down, e.g. modeler support for imperative and declarative ways to interact with the platform 14:47:38 #info Bryan: we should start with the existing platform and derive these requirements as a start 14:48:47 #info Pantelis: model onboarding needs to be revisited, e.g. use of github for onboarding the source to build a model 14:49:56 #info Pantelis: the rest of the paper addresses some existing AI/ML platform solutions 14:51:37 #info Pantelis: deployment to private cloud / specialized runtime environments seem to be a differentiator for Acumos 14:53:33 #info Pantelis: the Acumos architecture is not cloud-native 14:54:24 #info Jamil: seems to be mixing things; do we need an orchestrator as in ONAP? this could be discussed; 14:55:28 #info Jamil: re the new roles (beyond modeler, user, operator); we need a clear description of the platform support for that role 14:59:33 #info Bryan: orchestration is an existing component. e.g. to deploy in diverse cloud envs; also focusing the microservices on docker runtimes is already inline with key cloud-native requirements, and we can extend the deployment support to k8s envs 15:00:29 #info Pantelis: suggest that we adopt the kubeflow project 15:01:13 #info Pantelis: shows the resulting proposed stack 15:02:21 #info Ofer: will continue these meetings 15:02:39 #info Bryan: will provide a doodle poll 15:03:35 #info Bryan: will create a draft agenda 15:03:41 #endmeeting