============================================== #acumos-meeting: Acumos Architecture Committee ============================================== Meeting started by farheen_att at 14:02:43 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/acumos-meeting/2018/acumos-meeting.2018-10-11-14.02.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Acumos CMLP Predictor (farheen_att, 14:06:23) * Ryan Hull presenting slides (farheen_att, 14:08:29) * Model Runner does the prediction calls the Model Manager and the manager will download the model and store it. (farheen_att, 14:10:36) * Ryan drawing on Paint white board. (farheen_att, 14:11:46) * bryan: question: It seems like your goal is to have acumos play the role of the lifecycle manager. (farheen_att, 14:12:29) * Not really training. (farheen_att, 14:12:51) * Bryan: production is a better description. (farheen_att, 14:13:05) * bryan: retrieving things from source is not covered by Acumos. (farheen_att, 14:13:49) * bryan: what's covered is building a ms but not to building from source. (farheen_att, 14:14:16) * bryan: model runner stored in nexus in acumos. (farheen_att, 14:14:59) * ryan: is the model trained? (farheen_att, 14:15:38) * anwar: What is the best place to store or integrate? (farheen_att, 14:17:09) * bryan: Provide access to repo and source code and use that as a process of creating a ms in acumos platform. (farheen_att, 14:17:39) * ryan: Model manager pushes and pulls from Nexus. My question is where should we put it? (farheen_att, 14:19:03) * anwar: if he current model manager also takes care of the source code then that is something acumos doesn't provide. (farheen_att, 14:19:30) * ryan: CMLP doesn't store source of the model (farheen_att, 14:20:01) * ryan: Model manager updates a new version of the model and model history primarily used by the model runner. (farheen_att, 14:20:37) * this functionality resides within CMLP so please meet with the team to do a deep dive into model runner. (farheen_att, 14:22:13) * bryan: sounds like to me what you're talking about are things Acumos already does. (farheen_att, 14:23:38) * ryan: yes, that sounds like there is a lot of similarities (farheen_att, 14:25:27) * guy: We support many different types of toolkits. (farheen_att, 14:26:14) * ryan: in the cmlp world there is a one to one relationship between the model runner and the model. (farheen_att, 14:26:48) * mukesh: isn't updating a model training the model? (farheen_att, 14:27:19) * ryan: user gets a key to run the model runner again. (farheen_att, 14:27:44) * mukesh: Does the key update the model? (farheen_att, 14:28:15) * ryan: yes (farheen_att, 14:28:21) * ryan: two different approaches Model Manager and Model Runner (farheen_att, 14:28:46) * ACTION: ryan, bryan, guy and Phillipe get together this week and do a deep dive. What and How (farheen_att, 14:29:40) * bring it back next week so we can review your results. (farheen_att, 14:30:06) * Documentation (farheen_att, 14:30:30) * bryan presenting docs.acumos.org: No open reviews to the documentation project. (farheen_att, 14:31:07) * bryan: looking for commits. (farheen_att, 14:31:16) * I have updated diagrams from the wiki. The scope is adequate. (farheen_att, 14:31:57) * bryan: We need descriptions of the E interfaces from the PTLs. (farheen_att, 14:33:10) * ACTION: bryan will take the lead on getting the gaps filled in (farheen_att, 14:37:13) * Licensing (farheen_att, 14:37:39) * michelle presenting model licensing slide. (farheen_att, 14:38:20) * License Artifact responsibility falls into the data scientist and data analyst. (farheen_att, 14:39:10) * All of the user personas we have identified will be using License Tracking. (farheen_att, 14:39:43) * We need a way to gather tracking information and then (farheen_att, 14:40:16) * report on it through metrics and analytics. (farheen_att, 14:40:39) * We've identified the user personas and the key actions. Now we have to trace it through and who. (farheen_att, 14:41:44) * ACTION: we need to put a team together for the 18 features because we will be getting started with the boreas work. (farheen_att, 14:43:05) * michelle we have been talking with deployment and training. (farheen_att, 14:44:21) * anwar: Portal will be central to ux/ui. Although I suggest we develop the ux outside of the development team. (farheen_att, 14:45:02) * question: Does the model tracker receive information? (farheen_att, 14:46:09) * we are not going to be policing but we are reporting on the use of the models. (farheen_att, 14:46:24) * we are not proposing to take action. (farheen_att, 14:46:33) * anand: take the burden off the user to maintain the licenses. (farheen_att, 14:47:40) * AT&T will have Ericsson on site for next week on 17th 9AM morning have the TSC memebers join. (farheen_att, 14:49:49) * ACTION: if you are interested cotact Larry Uno morning 9AM October 17 with Ericsson at AT&T Bedminster location. (farheen_att, 14:50:28) * Roundtable (farheen_att, 14:51:24) * bryan: Kubeflow has 1/10th of the developers on the project and if acumos was supporting kubeflow it may give us an opportunity bring technology to this project. (farheen_att, 14:52:11) * anwar: I agree if we join hands with them it will but acumos in high gear. (farheen_att, 14:52:35) * hopefully something good will come out of the partnership with Kubeflow. (farheen_att, 14:52:57) * Chris Lott: Kubeflow seems to do the deployment and training. (farheen_att, 14:54:37) * farheen: acumos needs in the model building aspect. (farheen_att, 14:57:05) * : guy: kubeflow is good for compound deployments. (farheen_att, 14:57:29) * kazi: It is purely a deployment tool. (farheen_att, 14:58:24) * kazi: They are deploying all components from data ingestion to output of the ML model. (farheen_att, 14:59:09) * The output of our DS would be feeding into their deployment engine. (farheen_att, 14:59:25) * michelle: I liked that he was interested in data rights management. I liked that there was somebody interested in license management. (farheen_att, 15:02:06) * Release (farheen_att, 15:02:35) * one critical defect in an open state. Bryan is looking into it. (farheen_att, 15:03:54) * Major things due (farheen_att, 15:05:15) * make sure the documentation and athena is fully tested. (farheen_att, 15:05:29) Meeting ended at 15:05:33 UTC. People present (lines said) --------------------------- * farheen_att (69) * collabot (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4