09:00:02 #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting 09:00:02 Meeting started Thu Dec 12 09:00:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masashi910. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 09:00:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 09:00:02 The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' 09:00:12 #topic rollcall 09:00:18 please say hi if you're around 09:00:20 hi 09:00:23 hi 09:00:25 hi 09:00:26 Hello 09:00:27 hi 09:00:36 #topic AI review 09:00:44 1. Test LTS (pre)releases directly - patersonc 09:01:02 For all of my actions - no update 09:01:04 Sorry 09:01:11 hi 09:01:13 ok, thanks 09:01:17 hi 09:01:23 2. Create a way/process to run LTP only for release tests - patersonc 09:01:54 Chris-san, do you have updates? 09:02:12 Nope 09:02:23 patersonc: ok, thanks 09:02:31 3. Combine rootfilesystem with kselftest binary - Iwamatsu-san 09:02:40 Quote from Iwamatsu-san: "No 4 does not update." 09:02:40 Kudo's comment: "No 4 should be No 3". I will keep this AI as open 09:02:51 4. Document a process on how to add tests to the CIP test setup - patersonc 09:02:54 Nope 09:02:59 sure. 09:03:07 #topic kernel maintenance updates 09:03:12 (hi) 09:03:19 == Quote from Iwamatsu-san == 09:03:19 I reviewed 4.4.202, and stable-rc on stable ML. 09:03:19 I send some comments for 4.19.y and other. 09:03:19 ==== 09:03:44 I reviewed 4.19.88 and started reviewing 4.19.89. 09:04:13 pave1: thanks! 09:04:34 SZ-san, Wen-san, do you have updates? 09:04:55 classify-failed-patches now includes more patches from the stable mailing list 09:05:16 final step would be to include all the stable review series 09:05:27 also, cip-kernel-sec has seen a few more CVEs 09:05:40 will do another round of updates for cip-kernel-sec tomorrow. 09:05:59 I have been working on kernel-sec, including reviewing wens's changes. Also reviewed some y2038 patches upstream. 09:06:15 Speaking of failed patches... I don't monitor that closely, 09:06:28 but if there are changes that should be backported, I guess 09:06:33 I can try to help...? 09:07:00 masashi910: none from me this week. 09:08:15 pave1: I saw at least some ext4 patches, though I need to take a closer look 09:09:06 wens, bwh, szlin: thank you for your updates! 09:09:32 any other updates? 09:09:44 3 09:09:47 2 09:09:50 1 09:09:57 #topic Kernel testing 09:10:06 patersonc: the floor is yours 09:10:09 Hello 09:10:22 This week I've seen a few build issues on the stable-rc branches for 4.4 and 4.19. 09:10:25 Troublesome patches identified and reported to Greg. 09:10:30 I've enabled arm, arm64 and x86 defconfig builds for the stable-rc testing. 09:10:33 I've also been working on enabling the Siemens boards in our CI. 09:10:38 Builds are working okay, but haven't got the x86 board booting yet. 09:10:44 If anyone is x86 savvy can has a few minutes after the meeting I'd be glad for a few minutes of your time. 09:11:01 Savvy, I don't know, but I guess I can try to help. 09:11:16 I don't know why odd dts patches get backported, while the related dtsi patches get missed :( 09:11:17 That's it from me. Any questions? 09:11:37 wens: Indeed 09:11:38 And sorry for -rt still being on old .yml versions, we can talk about that later, too. 09:11:45 pave1: Thanks 09:12:12 wens: Basically Sasha tries to backport _everything_ without checking closely if it is needed or not :-(. 09:12:13 patersonc: thanks for working with Greg. By installing the fix, the issues were all solved? 09:12:45 pave1: is there a way to tell his bot to not select certain patches (by file path?) 09:13:00 wens: many ppl did that via email... 09:13:13 masashi910: Issues resolved by dropping patches. 09:13:15 szlin: I suppose that didn't work? 09:13:30 patersonc: thanks! 09:13:43 wens: I believe we can take a trip to U.S.A. and take away his computer :-). 09:13:51 lol 09:14:07 he'll just get a new one 09:14:18 wens: I guess we can talk to Greg, explain that this causes problems for us, 09:14:41 wens: and try to get him to do more reasonable patch selection. 09:14:52 wens: We are not only ones with this problems -- SuSE is not happy, either. 09:14:55 I guess it's a problem for everyone, not just us 09:15:01 for my platform at least, dts/dtsi patches go hand in hand with driver patches 09:15:14 It just shows the value in us testing the stable release candidates 09:15:14 wens: I tried to talk to Greg in person, but I guess I did not get the message accross. 09:15:40 wens: If you want to exclude few .dts files, it should be enough to promise you'll do the stable marking for them. 09:15:52 thanks, I'll discuss this with my co-maintainer and see what we can do 09:16:09 wens: That should actually be quite easy to do. (And does not include forced entry into buildings :-) ) 09:16:42 thanks, folks, for working on difficult issues... 09:17:07 any other topics? 09:17:18 3 09:17:21 2 09:17:23 1 09:17:24 #topic CIP Core 09:17:25 kazu: the floor is yours 09:17:33 hello 09:17:44 I've started the review phase of the 1st package proposal given from Security WG (in cip-dev) 09:17:54 no feedback yet though 09:18:31 i guess some discussions will be needed for the packages 09:18:52 temporally set the due date to 23rd, but please ask me if you want to extend 09:19:01 and sorry for that no technical updates for a few weeks 09:19:17 that's all from me in this week 09:19:23 kazu: thank you 09:19:30 any other topics? 09:19:35 kazu: You may considering to have a meeting 09:19:53 fujita3 yes, sorry for long delay 09:20:14 okay 09:20:31 fujita3 i hope i can arrange in this year... 09:20:55 kazu: Agreed :-) 09:21:35 any other topics? 09:21:49 3 09:21:52 2 09:21:55 1 09:21:56 #topic Software update 09:21:57 suzuki: the floor is yours 09:22:03 hi 09:22:08 I have no update in this week, too. Sorry about that. 09:22:15 I'll put a license file into our WG's demo script repository in a couple of days. 09:22:24 That's it from me. 09:22:35 Suzuki-san, that's ok. thanks for your report. 09:22:45 any other topics? 09:22:52 3 09:22:56 2 09:22:59 1 09:23:00 #topic AOB 09:23:09 1. Proposed move from Mailman to Groups.io and kernel.org 09:23:21 Does any one opposite to move mail server to group.io? 09:24:16 Nope. assuming that it handles patches okay. 09:24:33 patersonc: ok, thanks. 09:24:48 3 09:24:51 2 09:24:53 1 09:25:15 masashi910 i have no strong opinion about this if required features are supported :) 09:25:23 masashi910: Others may have an opinion though? 09:27:00 patersonc: yes, so if there are objections, please speak up 09:27:34 currently Neal-san is planning to move if there are no objections. 09:29:12 I think everyone is agree with it? 09:30:11 szlin: thanks for your help. 09:30:16 So, at this moment, let me assume that the kernel team does not have objections. 09:30:42 ok, then let me move to the next 09:30:53 2. When (Feb 27th-Thursday and 28th-Friday) do you prefer for F2F Kernel Team Meeting in Nurnberg during Embedded World 2020? - Doodle Poll 09:31:34 for this topic, I created a doodle poll. I will send out the link to that by email after this IRC meeting. 09:31:57 any other business? 09:32:05 3 09:32:12 2 09:32:13 1 09:32:16 #endmeeting