12:02:58 #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting 12:02:58 Meeting started Thu Jun 22 12:02:58 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:02:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:02:58 The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' 12:03:03 #topic AI review 12:03:06 1. create kernelci pipeline for buster images (arisut) 12:04:02 currently it can create the three different versions of isar-cip-core https://storage.kernelci.org/images/rootfs/cip/20230615/qemu-amd64/ 12:04:24 means we are done (for now)? 12:04:32 but I'm still finalizing things and also making the kernelci part 12:04:52 ok, close but not yet :) 12:04:53 and will send the patch to isar-cip-core ML 12:05:04 yes 12:05:06 good 12:05:08 hi all. 12:05:16 hi! 12:05:17 we made progress but not yet finished yet 12:05:26 hi iwamatsu 12:07:08 anything else on AIs? 12:07:19 5 12:07:21 4 12:07:23 3 12:07:24 2 12:07:25 1 12:07:27 #topic Kernel maintenance updates 12:07:42 This week reported 11 new CVEs and 0 updated CVEs. 12:07:44 reviewing 6.1.34 12:07:57 I did reviews -- 6.1.34 and .35 12:08:21 I reviewed 6.1.33, 34 and 35 12:08:45 6.1.x branch should be ready for release. 12:09:05 ;-) 12:11:28 good - anything else? 12:12:04 5 12:12:05 4 12:12:06 3 12:12:07 2 12:12:08 1 12:12:10 #topic Kernel release status 12:12:13 -4.4 12:12:21 on track 12:12:52 -4.19 12:13:16 on track 12:13:45 rt as well? 12:13:51 yes 12:14:00 -5.10 12:14:07 on track 12:14:11 indeed :) 12:14:13 -rt was released today. 12:14:22 perfect, thanks! 12:14:26 -6.1 12:14:33 ready to launch, I heard 12:14:48 I'd say so. 12:15:02 will then ask for the OK in the TSC meeting on monday 12:15:05 I will be based on older -stable by the 12:15:20 time we release it, but I guess that's okay. 12:15:50 +1 12:15:54 we need to think about the release cycle we want to commit on here 12:16:07 2x per month? 12:16:22 pave1: Is there time to update it to the latest stable before release? 12:16:35 I'd say 2x per month -cip, 1x per month -cip-rt and 12:16:53 move 5.10 to slower releases. 12:17:14 what would be the suggest there? 12:17:30 would we have to make 5.10 slower to handle 6.1? 12:17:32 peterson -- it would be better to do -cip1 and then move it forward 12:17:42 using normall process. 12:17:52 Okay 12:18:16 Who is in charge of 6.1? Pavel? 12:18:32 Iwamatsu? 12:18:52 You do the regular releases, I do the rt? 12:19:22 OK, same as 5.10 and 4.19. 12:19:34 I'd suggest that. 12:20:00 iwamatsu: is that doable for you from your workload situation? 12:21:27 Yes, I have spoken to and agreed with my boss about it in this term. 12:21:47 ok 12:21:51 thanks 12:21:58 s/in this/from this/ 12:21:58 a lot :) 12:22:36 back to "would we have to make 5.10 slower to handle 6.1?" then 12:22:54 I want to be clear here when CIP members ask me this 12:23:13 maybe some will not be happy about that, maybe they are ok, can't predict 12:23:56 It would be good so that our workload does not grow too quickly. 12:24:29 We can probably handle the extra workload if it is really required. 12:25:02 ok, some room for negotiation if needed 12:25:13 yes. 12:26:31 just checking https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/start 12:26:41 we have 2x per month for 4.19 still 12:27:06 just -rt is lagging behind there, significantly 12:27:27 I believe we should make 4.19-cip slower, too. 12:28:06 looking at who does regular releases, this is particularly a question for iwamatsu, right? 12:28:21 yes. 12:29:28 Yes, the 4.19 release cadence is widening. 12:30:02 then make it official there, ok, noted 12:30:25 and 5.10 is where we may react on feedback 12:30:33 let's see... 12:30:52 reference targets for 6.1 initially? 12:30:54 qemu only? 12:31:20 The boards we have in the lab? 12:32:02 I assumed that when we got configs it meant they want it as reference hw. 12:33:40 I recieved patches for confog of IPC27e and Renesas devices. 12:33:57 RZV2M 12:34:00 so the list is not full 12:34:09 where did we put them formally, btw? 12:34:22 I mean the list 12:34:41 ah, found: https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/ciptesting/cipreferencehardware 12:34:44 https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/ciptesting/cipreferencehardware 12:37:16 so, we add qemu, ipc227e and ? there 12:37:31 RZV2M is already listed there? 12:37:41 HiHope? 12:38:05 RZ/V2M is a different board 12:38:10 maybe V2M is other board 12:38:12 We're not proposing it as a reference board 12:38:29 ok, then qemu and the ipc only 12:38:35 I'm happy for RZ/G1M iwg20m and RZ/G2M hihope to be reference boards 12:38:36 folks can always ask for more later 12:38:59 but do we have configs for 6.1 for those already? 12:39:06 Yes 12:39:19 then I'm adding those as well 12:39:49 anything else? 12:40:58 Thanks 12:41:17 then let's move on... 12:41:20 5 12:41:22 4 12:41:24 3 12:41:25 2 12:41:27 1 12:41:28 #topic Kernel testing 12:41:44 nothing other than the AI 12:41:56 for me 12:42:20 patersonc[m]:? 12:42:43 sietze and I have been working on a prototype squad server 12:42:56 Nothing to show yet though, but getting there 12:43:18 coool 12:43:44 That's probably about it other then prepping for next week 12:44:15 don't mention "next week prepping"... ;) 12:44:20 ok 12:44:28 :P 12:45:09 just saw that our reference hardware table lists qemu-riscv64 only as candidate - I think that was accepted, no? 12:45:27 I should mention that Prague should be outside of range of terror attack on Zaporohzia... 12:46:35 jki -- not sure. We still have no serious risc-v hardware, so 12:46:58 ...at CIP 12:47:02 how much effort should go to risc-v still sounds like open question. 12:47:10 I'm using a VS2 in local "production" mode 12:47:10 It would be good to add the qemu for risc-v 12:47:23 VisionFive2 I mean 12:47:30 Nice 12:47:38 I keep meaning to hook one up to my lab at home 12:48:30 CIP committed on maintaining 5.10, and likely 6.1 as well, for riscv64 12:48:36 I'd say that reference board is strong commitment, but if Renesas wants that, lets do it. 12:48:42 and that implied to me that we commited on qemu at least 12:49:14 I think if we're supporting risc-v we at least need a qemu "reference board" 12:49:15 ok. 12:49:48 we announced to support riscv with the kernel, not userland, not rt yet 12:50:11 I think the wiki is just outdated, but I can bring that up for clarification in the TSC as well 12:50:46 +1 12:50:51 I have it+1 12:51:02 All the reference hardware will need to be approved by TSC, right? So these are just our suggestions... 12:51:04 +1 12:51:15 yes 12:51:24 but I think we got that already, let's clarify 12:52:11 ok, then anything else on testing? 12:52:22 5 12:52:24 4 12:52:26 3 12:52:28 2 12:52:30 1 12:52:32 #topic AOB 12:53:03 survey update: who all will be in Prague now? 12:53:06 I will be away from 28 June to 18 July 12:53:15 o/ 12:53:16 o/ 12:53:20 o/ 12:53:25 o/ 12:53:32 I'll be in Prague. Then week of travel. 12:54:11 o/ 12:54:43 should we skip irc next week then and rather have lunch together, maybe on Thursday? 12:55:08 (besides all the other meetups we will have anyways ;) 12:55:24 +1 12:56:23 +1 12:56:30 ! 12:56:35 +1 12:56:41 +1 12:56:43 +1 12:56:44 then let's gather at lunch on Thursday at the CIP booth 12:56:49 great! 12:57:35 any other business? 12:57:55 5 12:57:56 4 12:57:58 3 12:57:59 2 12:58:00 I will be away from 28 June to 18 July 12:58:01 1 12:58:05 noteded 12:58:07 :) 12:58:14 enjoy! 12:58:25 #endmeeting