13:02:35 #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting 13:02:35 Meeting started Thu Nov 2 13:02:35 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:02:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:02:35 The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' 13:02:41 #topic AI review 13:02:48 still none recorded 13:02:59 anything to add? 13:03:05 5 13:03:07 4 13:03:08 3 13:03:10 2 13:03:11 1 13:03:13 #topic Kernel maintenance updates 13:03:16 Hi! 13:03:51 Reviewing 6.1.61. 13:03:53 i'm preparing 4.4 and reviewing 6.1.60 13:03:55 This week reported 2 new CVEs and 3 updated CVEs. 13:04:46 I reviewed 6.1.60, and reviewing 6.1.61. 13:05:13 I looked at the CVEs. There's a scary one, but it should be virtualization-only, and only affects "Secure Encrypted Virtualizations", so likely we can wait for stable to handle this. 13:07:22 anyhing else? 13:07:40 5 13:07:42 4 13:07:43 3 13:07:45 2 13:07:47 1 13:07:49 #topic Kernel release status 13:07:55 - 4.4 13:08:02 on track, will post request for reviews soon 13:08:04 -rt is up-to-date. 13:08:11 - 4.19 13:08:22 -rt is due next month 13:08:39 on track, I am preparing release this week. 13:09:33 - 5.10 13:10:13 -rt is due in 14 days 13:10:16 on track I will release this week too. 13:10:23 - 6.1 13:10:26 iwamatsu: 13:10:35 you may want to wait with 5.10 release. 13:10:50 5.10.199 is buggy on renesas. FIx is known but maybe just wait for .10.200. 13:11:10 Aha, I forgot it. Thanks. 13:11:39 6.1-rt is due at end of month. 13:12:12 and regular one was just released as well 13:12:13 Pave1: thanks for release -cip tree. 13:12:13 good 13:12:31 yeah, good to see that we can rotate roles :) 13:12:32 iwamatsu: You are welcome. I'm glad I tried the process. 13:13:20 then let's move on 13:13:25 #topic Kernel testing 13:13:42 Hello 13:14:08 Nothing that exciting to highlight this week from me 13:14:19 I looked into multi-boot jobs in LAVA a bit 13:14:31 Hopefully that'll be useful for swupdate 13:14:49 does that solve the issue of testing watchdog resets? 13:15:23 No - it would only work if LAVA initiates the reboot 13:15:30 that is the problem 13:15:37 ah okay 13:15:40 we can't set swupdate properly without watchdogs 13:15:52 s/set/test/ 13:16:07 Maybe we can find a way 13:16:20 you can test a good share, but not the "funny" cases 13:16:57 LAVA will watch for specific strings, so if we tell a test case to watch for the first line of a reboot after watchdog timeout maybe it can do something, but then the LAVA scripts won't be running in Linux anymore so it won't be able to complete the test case. hmmm 13:17:30 It may be worth sending a mail to the lava mailing list to see if anyone there has any suggestions 13:17:30 exactly, there is a design problem with lava here 13:17:47 i thought that was discussed already, but I was not involved 13:18:03 will ping my colleagues on that 13:18:23 Thanks 13:20:16 another DE-Nano-SOC is running again in our lab 13:20:40 the IPC227E still had some issue on Tuesday, should follow soon 13:21:50 Thanks! 13:22:04 anything else regarding testing? 13:22:23 Not from me 13:23:08 5 13:23:09 4 13:23:11 3 13:23:12 2 13:23:14 1 13:23:15 #topic AOB 13:23:34 everyone still happy with our time slot? 13:23:58 Yes, it is fine with me. 13:24:14 I would not mind hour earlier, but can do this. 13:24:29 Yes. 13:24:56 Either is fine. 13:26:21 well, if no one suggests to move, let's keep it (CET-anchored) 13:26:42 maybe Europe will give up on daylight saving, one day, when all other problems are solved ;) 13:26:49 We can only hope 13:26:58 anyone anything else? 13:26:59 I am hoping 13:27:31 5 13:27:32 Budget for 2024 13:27:32 4 13:27:38 good point 13:27:56 was some update requested already from us? 13:28:04 ah, I missed the TSC... 13:28:09 I think in this weeks TSC, but I wasn't there :P 13:28:18 me neither 13:28:21 oops 13:28:33 I got asked to think about testing budget for next year 13:28:47 Presumably kernel team needs to do the same 13:28:54 right 13:29:07 are we expecting more work next year? 13:29:28 are we fine with the current situation? (I'm assuming that) 13:29:56 When is 4.19 ending maintainance by kernel team? 13:30:07 end of 24 13:30:14 Dec 2024. 13:30:24 exactly 13:30:39 2026 will be the "fun" year 13:30:42 So we'll get little more work at that point. I guess that means increase in 2025. 13:31:42 yep, plus one more kernel in 25, if all goes well 13:31:54 Ok, so significant increase in 2025. 13:32:05 We really need to get our testing better by then... 13:32:19 Yeah. 13:32:24 What are the current issues with testing? 13:32:32 Actually I believe we should somehow expanding 4.4 testing. 13:32:35 The person in charge is rubbish 13:32:45 pave1: agreed 13:32:52 stable team was doing testing for us, and that no longer happens. 13:33:07 ahh okay well I am not a team but will be willing to help 13:33:42 do we have a concrete list of todos? 13:33:55 would help contributors to get started 13:34:02 For 4.4 I'd suggest at least compile testing all non-crazy architectures. 13:34:07 and would also help us to budget efforts 13:34:28 what's in KernelCI so far? nothing for 4.4? 13:34:34 jki: No. I need to carve out a day and get a backlog sorted 13:35:07 4.4 is being tested by kernelci: https://linux.kernelci.org/job/cip/ 13:35:36 CIP and -st versions 13:35:48 and -rt 13:35:50 so, what is missing then for 4.4? 13:36:35 For CIP's testing, we're not actually testing much, mainly boot testing. And for the kernelci testing noone is really monitoring the output and acting on failures (as far as I understand) 13:37:31 maybe we should have a week test report, just like the weekly CVE news ;) 13:38:16 yeah, someone reading, sorting tracking, possibly fixing - that would be a start 13:38:30 I can do the fixing :-). 13:38:40 jkl: agreed 13:39:23 HRafuse: would you have some bandwidth - and an idea where to look at? 13:40:26 Somewhat, I am looking through the testing and things now. I think a backlog might be more structured and reduce the time it takes to fix this issue. 13:41:23 I can do the reading and sorting to start with. 13:41:39 Thank you HRafuse. And yes some tickets would certainly help! I'll try and get organised 13:41:51 cool! 13:42:12 No worries patersonc. 13:43:10 ok - back to budget 13:43:28 then I will only ask Neal to request offers for the same amount of hours next year 13:43:38 then we have the kernel budget at least 13:43:42 Sure 13:45:12 anything else for today? 13:45:47 5 13:45:49 4 13:45:50 3 13:45:52 2 13:45:54 1 13:45:55 Just that I am quite excited to get things rolling. Looking forward to working on this project. 13:45:55 #endmeeting