13:03:33 #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting 13:03:33 Meeting started Thu Nov 21 13:03:33 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:03:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:03:33 The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' 13:03:37 #topic AI review 13:03:40 - prepare blog entry on SLTS kernel state and challenges [Jan] 13:03:59 sorry, got distracted again 13:04:08 I got a link on that one on google, but was not able to open it. 13:04:17 At some point, mailing version out would make sense :-). 13:04:24 ah, that was the announcement thing 13:04:33 let me check if I can fix 13:04:47 yes, I can also post that on that thread 13:04:57 That would be easiest, thanks! 13:05:08 ok - other AIs are not recorded 13:05:14 5 13:05:16 4 13:05:17 3 13:05:18 2 13:05:19 1 13:05:21 #topic Kernel maintenance updates 13:05:45 I'm doing reviews, 4.4-st58, 6.1.117,118,119. 13:05:48 This week reported 93 new CVEs and 19 updated CVEs. 13:05:54 i've been preparing 4.4 13:06:17 I reviewed 6.1.117 , and I am reviewing 4.4-st58 13:06:23 There's fun situation where -stable is reverting security fixes because they break functionality. 13:06:37 I guess I'll need to investigate more and bring up popcorn :-). 13:07:12 Example is 8456fd1db 811371 o: 6.1| Revert "Bluetooth: hci_core: Fix possible buffer overflow" . 13:07:38 huh, will that revert CVE states as well? :) 13:09:53 anything else? 13:10:50 5 13:10:51 4 13:10:52 3 13:10:53 2 13:10:55 1 13:10:58 #topic Kernel release status 13:11:12 we have three late markers 13:11:22 4.4 will come out soon? 13:11:28 once the reviews are through 13:11:58 it's a big release, lots of backports 13:12:01 5.10-rt: There's .226-rt out, but that's old one. .229-rt-rc1 is out there, so I suggest to wait till that's released. 13:12:16 for 6.1.y-cip, I am preparing it. 13:12:52 ok, then things look more green next week 13:14:26 I still wonder, though, is stable rt should further fall behind if it is our best option to wait that often 13:15:34 anything else? 13:15:53 I can do .226-rt based release, but that would be releasing old code. 13:16:16 Maybe we should adjust our schedules for 4.19 / 5.10 rt to be less common. 13:16:18 yes, that why I'm questioning to wait 13:16:27 better become active and port forward 13:16:47 ...or maybe admit that our releases are controlled by upstream ;-). 13:16:50 at least when it is as easy as Clark put it - in most cases 13:17:08 pavel: that will change anyway 13:17:27 for 4.19 soon 13:17:43 and then 5.10 and 6.1 as well 13:17:51 Technially, forward porting rt changes to next stable is likely easy... 13:17:59 exactly 13:18:03 Hmm, true, self-maintenance. 13:18:28 if the load explodes, we can still take measures 13:18:42 But it would not get benefit of testing, and there could be fun if they decide to do something different. 13:18:53 Do we know how long the RT project plan to maintain the older kernels? For the whole LTS cycle? 13:19:01 Anyway, in this case, I wait for .229-rt? 13:19:10 patersonc: Yes, that's what happened in the past. 13:19:31 the RT project is not maintaining LTS, it's individual contributors 13:19:43 (backed by companies, though, in many cases) 13:20:28 the RT project supports LTS maintainer, and we could make use of that - specifically as member 13:21:00 Okay. I wondered if most of the upstreaming effort was done we could ask them to redirect membership money for the maintenance work? 13:21:23 we started to discusse this in the project, but there is no clear plan yet 13:21:37 That's the discussion currently happening; there is an email asking members how to prioritize the work. 13:21:46 yep 13:23:17 Okay :) 13:24:40 anyhing else on this topic? 13:24:49 5 13:24:51 4 13:24:52 3 13:24:54 2 13:24:56 1 13:24:58 #topic Kernel testing 13:25:31 I need to look into a couple of emails/requests sent this week - hopefully I'll get time later or tomorrow. 13:25:40 I've no exciting updates to share though - sorry 13:25:51 bbb is acting up. 13:25:56 Could someone take a look? 13:26:23 all bbb's or just in a specific lab? 13:26:37 Plus it would be good to start testing 6.12.x. (Or probably we are already testing it and I just need a link). 13:26:58 Good point - I forgot about that. Thanks pave1 13:27:26 one bbb on lab-cip-denx is not working now. 13:28:38 iwamatsu: Is that why I need to hit 'retry' few times? 13:30:03 if it is only one bbb instance, poke the lab owner 13:31:14 pave1: It seems that one BBB is offline. It seems that tests often fail in BBB. 13:31:22 The failures seem spread between multiple devices 13:31:34 Scroll down on https://lava.ciplatform.org/scheduler/device_type/beaglebone-black?dt_search=&dt_length=100#dt_ and look for incomplete 13:32:23 Failures seem to be for cip configs and for defconfig 13:32:34 https://lava.ciplatform.org/scheduler/job/1224761#L546 13:32:34 But there are also passes for the same 13:32:57 It fails on -stable-rc too, I just hit retry till I get a success... 13:33:51 In most cases, the NFS mount has failed and has become a timeout.. 13:34:11 OK ,I will check it. 13:34:26 but if that happens in multiple labs and didn't happen (that often) in the past, it speaks more for a kernel regression 13:35:09 And if it was an NFS server issue we'd expect to see similar issues for other devices 13:35:13 At least https://lava.ciplatform.org/scheduler/job/1224454 is zimage: bad magic, bootloader-commands timing out. 13:35:18 Hard to blame kernel for that. 13:37:03 Indeed. And that's a healthcheck job 13:37:05 simple to test: run older kernels multiple time in the same lab and see if they fail as well now 13:37:27 if that healthcheck job is with an older kernel: done 13:37:38 iwamatsu__: Let's chat via IRC/email about this when you have time? 13:38:28 Sure 13:38:36 good - thanks in advance to anyone doing the hard debugging :) 13:38:38 jki: Bootloader claims zimage magic is wrong. It succeeds when repeated. That's before kernel was loaded. I believe kernel is not responsible. 13:38:53 pavel: ack 13:39:04 other testing topics? 13:40:37 5 13:40:39 4 13:40:40 3 13:40:41 2 13:40:42 1 13:40:44 #topic AOB 13:41:03 already wrote: I will likely not be available next week 13:41:10 anyone able to pick up? 13:41:37 I can takeover 13:41:45 thanks! 13:41:49 :-) 13:41:58 other topics for today? 13:42:32 5 13:42:34 4 13:42:36 3 13:42:38 2 13:42:39 1 13:42:42 #endmeeting