13:00:37 #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting 13:00:37 Meeting started Thu Apr 10 13:00:37 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:00:37 The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' 13:00:50 #topic AI review 13:00:59 - share release scripts/procedures [iwamatsu-san] 13:01:06 I think this is done now 13:01:25 I should have stated "discuss how to re-use things"... 13:01:46 we can do under AOB 13:02:03 - ask for adjusting reply-to setting on CIP MLs [jan] 13:02:11 done, changes should be effective 13:02:18 can someone confirm this? 13:03:05 pavel: you asked for it 13:03:40 yep. I guess mark this as done 13:03:41 If I "reply" to an email sent to cip-dev the reply address is now the original sender not the ML 13:03:58 So it's working 13:04:07 and I'll verify it over the week. 13:04:10 reply-to-all is what you should always use on lists ;) 13:04:16 good 13:04:28 any other AIs? 13:04:30 reply-to-all also does as expected 13:04:54 5 13:04:55 4 13:04:57 3 13:04:59 2 13:05:01 1 13:05:02 #topic Kernel maintenance updates 13:05:18 This week reported 23 new CVEs and 6 updated CVEs. 13:05:19 I was reviewing 6.1.133 and .134 13:05:23 working on 4.4 13:05:49 I reviewed 6.1.133, and reviewing .132 13:07:41 anything else? 13:07:57 5 13:07:59 4 13:08:00 3 13:08:02 2 13:08:04 1 13:08:05 #topic Kernel release status 13:08:13 all lights are green 13:08:33 any issues ahead? 13:09:18 if not 13:09:20 not really. 6.1-rt releases are now more than 4 weeks apart 13:09:21 5 13:09:38 do we know why? 13:09:39 so we might want to use 6.12 tree as an excuse 13:09:56 to do -cip-rt less often. 13:10:21 No idea why. I guess maintainer workload. 13:10:41 I still want you to talk to them from time to time 13:10:53 not yet partiticpating in their meetups, right? 13:11:01 could be helpful... 13:11:15 right, should do that I guess. 13:11:49 yes, please 13:12:12 ok, then let's move on 13:12:16 5 13:12:18 4 13:12:20 3 13:12:22 2 13:12:23 1 13:12:25 #topic Kernel testing 13:12:47 no updates from me, still working on moving the configurations to KernelCI 13:13:09 Nothing from me either 13:13:41 all test pipelines running smoothly? 13:14:14 I do have to hit retry on gitlab, usually. 13:14:33 plus 6.14 is out, would be nice to test it. 13:15:15 the retry need is new? 13:15:31 same issue as always 13:15:46 no. that's long-standing. but would not mind if it went away. 13:16:20 understandable 13:17:20 anyone with some cycles who could have a look? 13:19:02 seems not - maybe hit retry the other week on this ;) 13:19:12 anything else on testing? 13:19:24 will retry in month or so :) 13:19:48 5 13:19:49 4 13:19:51 3 13:19:53 2 13:19:54 1 13:19:56 #topic AOB 13:20:11 two topics on my list 13:20:25 release scripting consolidation - where are we? 13:20:48 I need to take a look at Iwamatsu-san's scripts. 13:20:59 then you just gained an AI ;) 13:21:01 ok 13:21:13 :-) 13:21:22 uli_: you already picked something up, or what was the status? 13:21:30 pave1: if you have a issue and question, please let me know. 13:21:47 i use the scripts in lts-commit-list 13:21:55 that's pretty much it 13:22:10 cool 13:22:31 good, then let's revisit after pavel had a look as well 13:22:57 second topic: 6.12-cip release, roadmap and preconditions 13:23:35 testing seems ok, we are already taking patches to 6.1 and 6.12 13:24:35 given that we have patches in 6.12-cip, a release would be justified, I guess 13:24:48 anything missing for that? 13:24:51 configs should be confirmed by the members, wiki page update 13:25:05 do we need to discuss release cadences for 6.1? 13:25:17 right, configs... 13:25:58 and https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/ciptesting/cipreferencehardware 13:25:58 about configs, I got mail from renesas. 13:26:14 and yes, it seems to be rigght time to reduce 6.1 cadence :-) 13:26:17 but reference hw can start small, then grow 13:27:08 and decide who is responsible for tree and releases. 13:27:49 6.12-rt topic is also to finalize then 13:28:00 we still have no real feedback for that, I guess 13:28:11 arm32 support, sched lazy... 13:28:36 I'd say no 6.12-rt tree and see what happens. 13:29:02 so, ask interested members to propose missing RT features for backport? 13:29:10 yes. 13:29:44 then let me summerize what should be proposed/discussed during next TSC: 13:30:06 - reference boards (qemu is set - what else?) 13:30:17 - confirm / propose configs for 6.12 13:30:49 - reduce release cadence of 6.1 to 1 (vanilla) and 0.5 (rt) per month? 13:31:21 - no rt tree, members should propose missing RT features as backports to 6.12-cip 13:31:27 anything else? 13:31:46 - confirm cadence of 6.12 twice a month 13:32:01 good point 13:32:22 - decide who is responsible for tree and releases (tsc or here) 13:32:22 ah: maintainer will be.... 13:32:34 that is something we as kernel WG need to tell 13:33:11 iwamatsu__: would you have the capacity for that? 13:33:47 Probably okay. 13:34:15 we can always rearrange things if they do not work anymore 13:34:22 so model stays them as 6.1, with me + iwamatsu-san maintaining the tree 13:34:37 and mostly iwamatsu-san doing the releases? 13:35:53 Yes, that's fine. 13:35:58 to me 13:36:06 fine with me, too. 13:36:36 pavel: I suspect your efforts will go up as well, even if there is not dedicated 6.12-rt 13:36:54 with 4.4 and 4.19-rt self-maintained 13:37:25 yep. 13:37:28 plus potential rt backports to 6.12 if we take extras there 13:37:30 ok 13:37:52 then we have a rough plan and some food for discussion at the next TSC 13:38:02 +1 13:38:23 +1 13:38:43 any other topics for today? 13:39:47 5 13:39:49 4 13:39:51 3 13:39:53 2 13:39:56 1 13:40:04 #endmeeting