12:01:05 #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting 12:01:05 Meeting started Thu Jul 16 12:01:05 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:01:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:01:05 The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' 12:01:13 #topic AI review 12:01:20 - start blogpost draft [iwamatsu-san] 12:01:29 hello 12:01:31 no update 12:01:39 > blogpost draft 12:01:58 ok - I guess we will eventually be asked for a potential slot date 12:02:03 I am going to start tomorrow. 12:02:26 good, just let us know if we should help anywhere 12:02:36 no other AIs recorded 12:02:44 5 12:02:46 4 12:02:47 3 12:02:49 2 12:02:50 1 12:02:53 #topic Kernel maintenance updates 12:03:12 This week reported 3 new CVEs and 0 updated CVEs. 12:03:18 I was reviewing 6.12.95 nad various patch series on the mailing list. 12:03:25 Bascially catching up after travels. 12:03:33 working on 4.19; 4.4 is still missing a few reviews 12:03:41 I am reviewing 6.12.94. 12:03:52 uli: that batman-adv thingines? 12:03:57 thingies? 12:04:06 that's what i mean 12:04:39 Ok, I'll put them back on my todo list. 12:04:55 it's not strictly necessary; iiuc iwamatsu-san reviewed all of it 12:05:10 ("What is batman and why are we reviewing that? Is there some actual user? Why is it enabled in our configs?") 12:05:19 excellent questions :) 12:05:49 which batman are we talking about? :) 12:05:59 and which config asks for him? 12:06:29 -stable patches are full of batman... 12:06:40 Like this: 270f518e2aab7 batman-adv: tt: fix negative tt_buff_len 12:06:56 CONFIG_BATMAN_ADV is fairly often set... 12:07:11 jki: moxa_* and siemens-i386-rt (the latter has basically everything enabled :( ) 12:07:40 Yeah. And I'm tired of that particular superhero :-). 12:07:41 the latter is quite old 12:08:05 4.19.y/x86/siemens_iot2000.config:# CONFIG_BATMAN_ADV is not set 12:08:14 we do not feel guilty here ;) 12:08:27 It was nontrivial part of 4.4-st review. 12:08:49 It is some kind of mesh networking IIRC. And we might want to take a second look if we really need it. 12:09:08 moxa config pull it in in 4.4. 12:09:57 siemens_i386-rt_defconfig do on 4.19 and 5.10, ok... 12:11:24 anyway, please raise that on the mailing list towards all affected config owners 12:11:34 If someone could take a look and perhaps remove it from the config. Another one probably not needed is qla2xxx. 12:11:42 Ok, will do. 12:12:05 please also provide reasons along that so that we can forward 12:12:22 (There's a ton of unused stuff, but these have people actually patching them, so they cause some load.) 12:12:42 sure 12:13:19 some configs might have received too little feature reviews before we accepted them... 12:13:33 ok - more maintenance topics? 12:14:16 5 12:14:18 4 12:14:20 3 12:14:22 2 12:14:23 1 12:14:26 #topic Kernel release status 12:14:55 4.4 regular and 4.19-rt are due 12:15:12 4.4, we already discussed - anything about 4.19-rt? 12:15:33 I need to take a look. Should be ok. 12:15:38 oh, 6.1 is due as well 12:15:59 flipped after a 12:16:01 Yes, I am going to do it. 12:16:07 after I ran the script this morning 12:16:13 good 12:16:27 so, no issues in sight, just work :) 12:16:47 anything to add? 12:16:55 5 12:16:57 4 12:16:59 3 12:17:01 2 12:17:02 1 12:17:04 #topic Kernel testing 12:17:35 working on a new release of kci-dev with mcp features 12:17:43 Nice 12:18:19 I've no updates this week 12:19:45 anything else on testing? 12:19:59 5 12:20:02 4 12:20:03 3 12:20:04 2 12:20:06 1 12:20:08 #topic AOB 12:20:34 news from cip-llm-gateway.ciplatform.org: it's basically running 12:20:55 Nice :-). What is needed to play with it? (And what to expect?) 12:20:56 uli noticed some thermal... limitations, though, we are looking into that 12:21:01 i should be able to provide the scripts and instructions for use by next meeting 12:21:12 that sounds great! 12:21:49 the gpu runs hot, so it's throttled and performance is mediocre. 12:22:06 yeah, we need to understand that 12:22:24 What should be my expectations, compared to gpt-5.4-nano (duck.ai)? 12:22:52 i haven't done any large-scale experiments with cloud models, but 12:23:25 from what limit experience i have, the regular free chatgpt models make the same mistakes :) 12:24:06 Ok, that sounds good :-). My local experiments ... were not comparable to gpt-5.4-nano, not even remotely. 12:24:20 I have various more advanced models at hand and can also do cross checks where useful 12:25:02 we as CIP also have Codex access now 12:25:22 via me - drop me data and prompts 12:25:42 security insensitive ones for now, more later 12:26:17 So what would be expectations from codex? "Write me a calculator application for Commodore 64, in Pascal"? 12:26:48 use Uli's setup eventually, just with a different backend 12:26:57 Ok. 12:28:59 other businesses for today? 12:29:21 5 12:29:23 4 12:29:25 3 12:29:27 2 12:29:29 1 12:29:31 #endmeeting