14:00:19 <rpaik> #startmeeting LFN TAC bi-weekly
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14:00:37 <rpaik> #chair kennypaul
14:00:37 <collabot_> Current chairs: kennypaul rpaik
14:00:43 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke
14:01:08 <Wenjing> #info Wenjing Chu
14:01:22 <edwarnicke> kennypaul: rpaik happy to help with meeting minutes if you want to chair me (and I suspect others would be as well)
14:01:55 <ttallgren> #info Tapio Tallgren
14:02:00 <Xiaojun> #info Xiaojun Xie
14:02:11 <dfarrell07> #info Daniel Farrell
14:02:30 <rpaik> #chair CaseyLF
14:02:30 <collabot_> Current chairs: CaseyLF kennypaul rpaik
14:02:44 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners, Cisco
14:06:09 <kennypaul> #topic agenda
14:07:02 <kennypaul> #info discuss budget first, and governance 2nd
14:10:24 <CaseyLF> #info A concern was raised that not all projects have a clearly defined budget scope.
14:11:52 <randybias> We should definitely try and make the 7/11 date still.
14:12:01 <kennypaul> #info reminder that there is a commitment of July 11 for governance doc to the board.
14:12:59 <rpaik> #link https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10545/
14:14:12 <AndersR> #info Anders Rosengren
14:14:43 <kennypaul> #topic budget proposal review
14:15:38 <rpaik> #link https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10545/ patch for the community budget process
14:21:02 <rpaik> #info discussion if TSC's need to get involved in managing the overall marketing budget (e.g. project specific PR, events, etc.)
14:23:24 <dfarrell07> rpaik, phrobb is it true that ONS isn't an LFN event?
14:24:41 <rpaik> dfarrell07 that's correct
14:25:00 * dfarrell07 learns something, I thought we paid for that
14:25:39 <rpaik> #info suggestion to clarify what is meant by events/marketing in the document
14:25:52 <dfarrell07> #action edwarnicke to clarify what events are covered by TSC discretionary budget and which are covered by shared LFN
14:27:01 <rpaik> dfarrell07, LFN is one of the sponsors at ONS
14:28:47 <rpaik> or "community partners" as listed here: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-networking-summit-europe-2018/
14:28:57 <dfarrell07> rpaik: ack, thanks
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14:36:35 <rpaik> #info discussion that discretionary spends amount should be figured out prior to making recommendations to the GB
14:39:36 <dfarrell07> #info it seems like the biggest question about budget process how much lives in LFN and how much lives in TSCs
14:46:04 <rpaik> #info discussion that the budget process for LFN vs. project specific activities is unclear under LFN
14:50:35 <dfarrell07> #info we need to add clarity about how we're going to support non-TAC projects
14:50:52 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 thinks we should refactor TF section now to be non-TAC section
14:51:14 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 thinks we should be generous with support for non-TAC projects, especially for small events with low latency
14:54:24 <randybias> #info randybias violently agrees with dfarrell07 that suporting the smaller non-TAC projects is important for supporting their efforts in maturing over time and becoming TAC projects.
14:55:47 <dfarrell07> #action randybias to refactor TF section into non-TAC section
14:55:53 <dfarrell07> randybias: thanks :)
14:56:35 <rpaik> #action edwarnicke to clarify "TAC or MAC" in the document
14:59:20 <randybias> Do we need to add another meeting prior to 7/11 to make sure we can get the gov docs done in time?
15:00:17 <rpaik> #info encourage community members to review governance docs at https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/11139/
15:01:56 <rpaik> #endmeeting