13:59:19 <kennypaul> #startmeeting TSC-2018-10-03
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13:59:48 <kennypaul> #chair phrobb, CaseyLF
13:59:48 <collabot> Warning: Nick not in channel: phrobb
13:59:48 <collabot> Current chairs: CaseyLF kennypaul phrobb
14:00:20 <kennypaul> #topic rollcall & agenda
14:01:49 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke
14:02:26 <wenjing> #info Wenjing Chu
14:02:43 <dfarrell07> #chair test
14:02:49 <dfarrell07> do we have a meeting running?
14:03:09 <GregElkinbard> #info Greg Elkinbard
14:03:50 <CaseyLF> #link https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=afkpqm0ngjva5r7a0u95gjunu4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FLos_Angeles Link to public TAC calendar.
14:04:02 * dfarrell07 as assuming a meeting is running
14:04:07 <dfarrell07> #info Daniel Farrell
14:04:21 <Xiaojun> #info Xiaojun Xie
14:04:27 <rossella_s> #info Rossella Sblendido
14:04:43 <ttallgren> #info Tapio Tallgren
14:05:12 * dfarrell07 remembers that a second #startmeeting should show error if meeting is running, tries as test
14:05:16 <collabot> dfarrell07: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.
14:05:21 <dfarrell07> cool, thanks collabot
14:06:52 <mortderire> #info Ray Kinsella covering for Rajesh Gadiyar
14:07:14 <kennypaul> #action kennypaul add Catherine Lefevre and Brian Freeman to slides/invites
14:07:33 <CaseyLF> #topic JIRA Workflows
14:07:42 <kennypaul> #topic Jira workflow - Randa Maher
14:23:15 <CaseyLF> #info Ed asks that the slides be uploaded somewhere.  Randa stated that she will have them uploaded and notify the TAC.
14:23:51 <CaseyLF> #action Randa Mahar to upload slides and share the link with the TAC.
14:26:47 <CaseyLF> #info Daniel mentioned that there is a Resolution state flag and asked if it was considered. Randa stated that she is working with the LF to resolve the issue with custom status fields.
14:27:50 <kennypaul> #topic 2019 budget
14:32:24 <kennypaul> #info edwarnicke raises concern over $25k proposed budget per project for community oriented budjet
14:32:29 <CaseyLF> #info Ed asks if there is a certain amount of assigned budget.  Mazin said that there was a request for a template this year and that the following cycle there would be a pool.  Ed suggest that the TAC should develop a suggested amount.
14:32:59 <kennypaul> #info dfarrell07 also has the same concern
14:33:45 <CaseyLF> #info Wants the community to be involved in the Oct 17 budget discussions and ask that there is representation invited to the meeting.
14:33:46 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 thinks the Community Oriented Budget Process as we sent it to the Board was half-baked, under-development, had outstanding feedback that should have been addressed before going to Board
14:34:18 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 thinks the TAC should revisit the proposal to the Board to harden it, make it easier for the Board, make it more likely we good a good outcome
14:34:49 <edwarnicke> #link https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10545/
14:36:53 <dfarrell07> #info there are a lot of open questions from dfarrell07 on this patchset (link next), basically the same issues we're saying we need to re-address now
14:36:59 <dfarrell07> #link https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10545/26/docs/recommendations/community_oriented_budgeting/community_oriented_budgeting.rst lots of questions we should address
14:37:05 <anders_> #info Anders Rosengren
14:39:10 <CaseyLF> #info Phil Asks Ed to deliver some more specific questions and language for the TSCs to answer regarding budgeting.
14:40:03 <CaseyLF> #info Jason H also expresses concerns that there is not enough time to complete a budget requests from the TSCs.
14:41:29 <edwarnicke> #info Jason H expressed concerns that no input had been gathered from the ONAP TSC on budgeting, and he was concerned about not being able to have a face to face next year (as happened last year).
14:44:05 <edwarnicke> #info Four points: 1) scope of TSC discretionary fund, 2) Amount of TSC discretionary funds, 3) Multiple community reports of no ask for input to their TSCs, 4) Multiple communities have not had their needs met in the last year due to disconnect between communities and boards
14:45:06 <CaseyLF> :)
14:45:38 <CaseyLF> kennypaul: Sure, save it for when I need to do it!
14:45:41 <CaseyLF> lol
14:46:05 <edwarnicke> #info: Plan: 1) Projects to seek to gather back of envelope budgets from their TSCs for next week's TAC.  2) Request that reps from each community be invited to Oct 17 board meeting to represent budget needs.
14:47:36 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 thinks this is all much more painful because we're having to hear what the Board thinks second-hand through two people, vs project reps just attending Board meetings
14:50:15 <edwarnicke> dfarrell07: +100000
14:52:41 <ttallgren> Can we discuss the Chair role description today?
14:53:08 <CaseyLF> It's on the schedule.  We hope to.  This discussion is running a little long.
14:56:38 <CaseyLF> #action edwarnicke to send a list of suggested questions to the TAC regarding Budget Discretionary Funds for the Projects.
14:56:49 <kennypaul> #topic TSC Chair Job Description
15:01:14 <mortderire> need to drop folks sorry
15:01:40 <CaseyLF> kennypaul: please keep notes for me since I'm sharing my screen.
15:03:48 <kennypaul> #info Brian F suggests proceeding with the self nomination using the existing doc, and proceed with a follow-up realistic document
15:04:53 <ttallgren> I have to drop also
15:05:44 <GregElkinbard> #info I am Randy's proxy today
15:06:30 <kennypaul> #info Brian makes a motion to accept the document, dfarrell07 2nds
15:07:50 <kennypaul> #agreed document is accepted via verbal vote, pending verification of quorum.
15:08:21 <kennypaul> #action kennypaul to follow up to list with verification.
15:08:30 <kennypaul> #endmeeting