13:30:45 #startmeeting tsc 13:30:45 Meeting started Thu Apr 27 13:30:45 2017 UTC. The chair is phrobb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:30:45 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:30:45 The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 13:30:59 #topic roll call 13:31:11 #info 13:31:14 #info Leigh Anne, Intel, on behalf of Rajesh 13:31:22 #info Ranny Haiby, Nokia 13:31:28 Amir Levy, GigaSpaces 13:31:45 #Info Amir Levy, GigaSpaces 13:32:04 #info Lingli Deng, China Mobile 13:32:31 #info Huabing Zhao, ZTE, on behalf of Zhaoxing Meng 13:33:01 #info Alla Goldner, Amdocs 13:33:01 #info Xiaojun Xie, ChinaTelecom 13:33:27 #info Chris Donley, Huawei 13:34:02 #info edwarnicke requests that the ONAP TSC respect the longstanding TSC meetings of sister communities and conclude by 8am PST 13:34:21 #info Roberto Kung Orange 13:34:22 #info Brian Hedstrom, ARM 13:34:37 #info Stephen Terrill, ERicsson 13:34:52 #info Xinhui Li, VMware 13:36:44 well that didn't fix it 13:36:54 oh well, coming back 13:38:57 https://zoom.us/j/993784494 13:42:02 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the meeting minutes from the TSC meeting of April 20th? +1 0, -1 13:42:02 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the meeting minutes from the TSC meeting of April 20th? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 13:42:02 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 13:42:06 #vote +1 13:42:11 #vote +1 13:42:13 #vote +1 13:42:14 #link http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/onap-meeting/2017/onap-meeting.2017-04-20-13.54.html <- Last weeks minutes 13:42:16 #vote +1 13:42:16 #vote +1 13:42:16 #vote +1 13:42:19 tykeal: Many thanks :) 13:42:20 #vote +1 13:42:20 #vote +1 13:42:20 #vote +1 13:42:20 If you want me to help #info things in, please add me as a chair. :) 13:42:26 #vote +1 13:42:26 #vote +1 13:42:36 #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/TSC+Meeting+Resources <- Agenda 13:42:39 #chair CaseyODL 13:42:39 Current chairs: CaseyODL phrobb 13:42:58 #endvote 13:42:58 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the meeting minutes from the TSC meeting of April 20th?" Results are 13:42:58 +1 (11): RobertoK, Xiaojun, Guest35487, Leigh, amir_levy, alla, edwarnicke, SteveT, XinhuiLi-vmware, RannyHaiby, Lingli_Deng 13:43:18 CaseyODL: Would you kindly chair me? 13:43:49 #chair edwarnicke 13:43:49 Current chairs: CaseyODL edwarnicke phrobb 13:43:58 #chair tykeal 13:43:58 Current chairs: CaseyODL edwarnicke phrobb tykeal 13:43:59 ;) 13:44:03 haha 13:44:03 #chair gildas 13:44:03 Current chairs: CaseyODL edwarnicke gildas phrobb tykeal 13:44:13 #chair SteveT 13:44:13 Current chairs: CaseyODL SteveT edwarnicke gildas phrobb tykeal 13:44:52 yes 13:45:11 #topic TSC Charter 13:46:43 #info Chris states that the TSC still needs to cover Coordinators and the Architecture committees. 13:47:34 #info Section 5.2.2.2 Coordinator candidates and who is eligible. 13:49:18 #info The two options discussed would be 1) Give priority to TSC voting and community participants would have equal precedence. 13:49:55 FYI, Steve Rummel is covering for IBM today as I am on a plane and can't join audio. 13:50:14 #info Option 2 would be Any community member (regardless of TSC membership) would be eligible to serve as a coordinator. 13:51:42 #info Ed states that he believes the TSC should lean towards greater openness. 13:53:37 #startvote Shall the eligibility of the coordinator positions during the first 12 months of operation be preferenced to the TSC members? +1 0 -1 13:53:37 Begin voting on: Shall the eligibility of the coordinator positions during the first 12 months of operation be preferenced to the TSC members? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 13:53:37 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 13:53:42 #vote -1 13:53:48 #vote +1 13:53:48 #vote -1 13:53:54 #vote -1 13:53:55 #vote -1 13:53:58 #vote +1 13:53:59 #vote #vote -1 13:53:59 Lingli_Deng: #vote -1 is not a valid option. Valid options are +1, 0, -1. 13:54:00 #vote 0 13:54:01 -1 13:54:03 #vote +1 13:54:04 #vote -1 13:54:08 #vote -1 13:54:12 steverummel: You need to #vote 13:54:18 #vote -1 13:54:21 #vote -1 13:54:23 #vote +1 13:54:23 it always counts your _last_ vote anyway 13:54:26 #vote -1 13:54:35 #vote -1 13:54:49 #endvote 13:54:49 Voted on "Shall the eligibility of the coordinator positions during the first 12 months of operation be preferenced to the TSC members?" Results are 13:54:49 0 (1): Guest35487 13:54:49 +1 (3): RobertoK, Leigh, alla 13:54:49 -1 (10): RannyHaiby, amir_levy, edwarnicke, SteveT, steverummel, XinhuiLi-vmware, Huabing_Zhao, Dsauvageau, Xiaojun, Lingli_Deng 13:55:54 #agree Any community member (regardless of community membership) will be eligible to serve as coordinator. Nominees should have a subject matter experience in the relevant coordination area. 13:56:58 help 13:56:59 IRC link is now on the wiki as well 13:57:32 tykeal: Rockstar :) 13:57:36 #info Chris talks about alternative proposed language for sub committees. 13:57:44 see a need, fix a need... if possible ;) 13:57:47 tykeal: Thanks. 13:59:34 #info Chris suggested that each subcommittee may elect it's own chair for leading meetings and representing the committee to the TSC. 14:00:11 #info Chris noted that Subcommittees would be advisory in nature and not authoritative. 14:00:59 #info Chris also presented language on how a subcommittee would form, create and close. 14:02:06 #info Chris also identified language that would point to an instance where a coordinator may be better suited than a Subcommittee. 14:02:52 #info Chris asked if there was a preference to calling Subcommittees "task forces" instead. 14:03:46 #info The TSC believes that Subcommittees is the proper name. 14:04:26 #info Chris asks if the TSC should have a formal Architecture Committee? 14:04:56 I think I'm in the wrong zoom room 14:05:14 https://zoom.us/j/993784494 14:06:30 Hi, Can anyone share the zoom ID for today? 14:06:34 CaseyODL: thanks 14:07:05 udim: https://zoom.us/j/993784494 14:07:17 The meeting ID is the number in the URL. 14:08:23 HI 14:08:37 #vote +1 14:08:45 #vote +1 14:08:45 +1 14:08:45 #startvote Shall the TSC designate an Architecture committee to be defined in the TSC Charter document? +1, 0, -1 14:08:45 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC designate an Architecture committee to be defined in the TSC Charter document? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 14:08:45 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:08:47 #vote -1 14:08:49 #vote -1 14:08:51 #vote -1 14:08:51 #vote -1 14:08:52 #vote -1 14:08:56 +1 14:08:57 #vote +1 14:09:00 #vote -1 14:09:02 #vote -1 14:09:03 #vote +1 14:09:06 amir_levy: I think you may have voted prematurely 14:09:12 #vote +1 14:09:12 #vote +1 14:09:16 Dhananjay Pavgi, Tech Mahindra 14:09:18 #vote -1 14:09:42 * CaseyODL giggles 14:09:54 #vote -1 14:10:02 #vote +1 14:10:05 #vote -1 14:10:06 #vote -1 14:10:14 #endvote 14:10:14 Voted on "Shall the TSC designate an Architecture committee to be defined in the TSC Charter document?" Results are 14:10:14 +1 (5): amir_levy, RobertoK, Xiaojun, steverummel, Guest35487 14:10:14 -1 (11): Leigh, alla, aayushJio, Huabing_Zhao, SteveT, edwarnicke, XinhuiLi-vmware, Dsauvageau, RannyHaiby, gilbert, Lingli_Deng 14:11:06 #agreed Shall not include a Architecture committee definition in the TSC Charter document. 14:11:16 #undo 14:11:16 Removing item from minutes: 14:11:23 #agree Shall not include a Architecture committee definition in the TSC Charter document. 14:12:48 #startvote Shall the TSC approve and confirm the TSC Charter document with the edits just specified on the version 6.9.2? +1, 0, -1 14:12:48 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve and confirm the TSC Charter document with the edits just specified on the version 6.9.2? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 14:12:48 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:12:49 #vote +1 14:12:51 #vote +1 14:12:52 #vote +1 14:12:52 #vote +1 14:12:54 #vote +1 14:12:55 #vote +1 14:12:56 #vote +1 14:12:57 +1 14:12:58 #vote +1 14:12:58 #vote +1 14:12:59 #vote +1 14:12:59 #vote +1 14:13:00 #vote +1 14:13:03 #vote +1 14:13:03 #vote +1 14:13:04 #vote +1 14:13:05 #vote +1 14:13:06 DP_: You need to #vote 14:13:26 #vote +1 14:13:35 thanks, Ed 14:13:49 #endvote 14:13:49 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve and confirm the TSC Charter document with the edits just specified on the version 6.9.2?" Results are 14:13:49 +1 (17): RobertoK, Xiaojun, Guest35487, Leigh, aayushJio, amir_levy, alla, edwarnicke, SteveT, DP_, steverummel, XinhuiLi-vmware, Huabing_Zhao, Dsauvageau, RannyHaiby, gilbert, Lingli_Deng 14:14:27 Congratulations, especially to Chris 14:14:33 #agree The TSC approves the TSC Charter document. 14:14:42 Congratulations to everyone :) 14:15:04 #action Chris will update the version of the TSC Charter document based on the votes today and will distribute to the TSC mailing list. 14:15:28 #topic TSC Vice Chair self nomination. 14:16:18 #info Phil has opened the self nomination period for the next 3 days, and then there will be a 3 day voting period for the Vice TSC Chair position. 14:16:41 #topic TSC F2F Meeting Agenda. 14:17:40 #info A doodle poll will be distributed for people to vote on topics. 14:18:03 #info A link to the Intro to ONAP Webinar has been distributed. 14:18:56 Can we look at adding the meeting and voting language that I sent two weeks ago? I think it was just overlooked. 14:19:01 #link https://zoom.us/j/713413580 Meeting link to the Intro to ONAP Webinar. Friday April 28th from 11am to 1am EST. 14:20:34 #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/ONAP+Project+Developer+Event%3A+May+2+-+5%2C+2017 Proposed Meeting Agenda for the ONAP May F2F. 14:21:26 #info Phil walked though the proposed agenda as linked above. 14:23:54 Read out on Deep Dive Sessions: Is this enough time? 30 min 14:27:02 Will Subcomittees on Architecture, Use cases and Release planning be created before or after May F2F? 14:30:35 to confirm... no sessions after noon Fri, correct? 14:31:01 edwarnicke: Correct. 14:31:23 CaseyODL: Excellent :) 14:36:35 could we get the record of the meeting? 14:38:23 A recording of the meeting will be posted to the wiki. 14:39:55 ok, thanks. 14:40:32 #startvote Does the TSC approve the Face to Face Agenda as represented on the wiki (including the swap of SDC and integration deep dive sessions? +1, 0, -1 14:40:32 Begin voting on: Does the TSC approve the Face to Face Agenda as represented on the wiki (including the swap of SDC and integration deep dive sessions? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 14:40:32 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:40:35 #vote +1 14:40:36 #vote +1 14:40:37 #vote +1 14:40:38 #vote +1 14:40:38 #vote +1 14:40:38 #vote +1 14:40:40 #vote +1 14:40:44 #vote +1 14:40:45 #vote +1 14:40:46 #vote +1 14:41:09 # vote +1 14:41:10 #vote +1 14:41:14 # +1 14:41:20 #vote +1 14:41:27 #vote +1 14:41:31 #endvote 14:41:31 Voted on "Does the TSC approve the Face to Face Agenda as represented on the wiki (including the swap of SDC and integration deep dive sessions?" Results are 14:41:31 +1 (13): RobertoK, Xiaojun, Guest35487, Leigh, amir_levy, alla, edwarnicke, SteveT, XinhuiLi-vmware, gilbert, RannyHaiby, Dsauvageau, Lingli_Deng 14:41:34 #agree the TSC approves the ONAP May Face to Face agenda as represented on the wiki. 14:42:36 #topic Chronology of Project Proposals and Goals for the TSC. 14:44:24 #info Phil states we do want to allow new projects to be proposed but we also need to prioritize approval the existing components from Open-O and ECOMP to prepare for the first release. 14:46:39 #topic Close on Date, Time and location for June F2F meeting. 14:46:51 phrobb: Please link to the Doodle poll. 14:46:53 I don't have it. 14:48:58 https://atflinuxfoundation.beta.doodle.com/poll/iuxbczrskznzbww3#table 14:49:25 #link https://atflinuxfoundation.beta.doodle.com/poll/iuxbczrskznzbww3#table Link to Doodle poll for June F2F meeting time. 14:52:44 In future, please put priority on scheduling F2F events at least 2 months in advance. It will be very difficult for overseas participation, e.g. due to travel expense and possible visa logistics. 14:54:36 #info Doodle poll will close at EOB tomorrow. 14:55:19 The poll's been open for two weeks. Can we not agree on a date today (sorry not on audio) 14:55:27 BTW, you can run polls inside the ONAP Confluence Wiki, where we could embed the poll on the F2F meeting page. https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/com.nearinfinity.confluence.survey-plugin/server/overview 14:55:45 #info The OPNV Summit is from June 12th - 15th in Beijing. 14:56:57 #info the Choices are June 8th & 9th before OPNFV, the 15th and 16th during the OPNFV Summit, or the following week on the 21st and 22nd. 14:57:53 #info It was suggested that the vote be cognizant of community members travel. 14:58:29 Thanks for all your hard work Annie 14:58:52 My email address is ccain@linuxfoundation.org, WeChat is "okaru6" or CaseyODL here on IRC. 14:59:46 glad you get Wechat : 15:00:40 IRC is the easiest way to have me take care of "quick" questions or actions. If you need something more in-depth, please send me an email or WeChat message. 15:01:53 #endmeeting