13:59:53 <CaseyODL> #startmeeting tsc
13:59:53 <collabot> Meeting started Thu May 11 13:59:53 2017 UTC.  The chair is CaseyODL. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:09 <CaseyODL> #chair phrobb
14:00:09 <collabot> Current chairs: CaseyODL phrobb
14:00:31 <phrobb> #topic Roll Call - TSC members please #info in
14:00:42 <RannyHaiby> #info Ranny Haiby, Nokia
14:01:00 <Xiaojun> #info Xiaojun Xie, China Telecom
14:01:03 <cdonley> #info Chris Donley Huawei
14:01:04 <alla> #info Alla, Amdocs
14:01:11 <JasonHunt> #info Jason Hunt, IBM
14:01:21 <xinhuili> #info xinhui li, vmware
14:01:21 <Huabing_Zhao> #info Huabing Zhao, on behalf of Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE
14:02:02 <Lingli_Deng> #Lingli Deng, China Mobile
14:02:31 <Lingli_Deng> #info Lingli Deng, China Mobile
14:02:59 <RobertoK_> #info Roberto Kung Orange
14:03:12 <SteveT> #info Stephen terrill
14:03:25 <gilbert> #info Mazin Gilbert
14:03:36 <Robert__> #info Robert Calvert
14:04:20 <GraceLian_Intel> #info Grace Lian, Intel, on behalf of Rajesh
14:05:42 <bhedstrom> #info Brian Hedstrom, ARM
14:06:38 <CaseyODL> #topic Security Coordinator
14:07:11 <phrobb> #info gildas suggests  we discuss the Release naming if we have time
14:07:19 <CaseyODL> #info SteveT has some names to propose to the Board and a proposal on how to proceed.
14:07:31 <CaseyODL> SteveT:  Please #link in the wiki page.
14:08:37 <CaseyODL> #info SteveT asks for help from someone who has more experience with OpenO security.
14:08:52 <Lingli_Deng> We have 92 attendees now.
14:09:18 <CaseyODL> #action cdonley will follow up with SteveT offline regarding Security.
14:09:47 <gildas> #info Wiki page for Security is https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/ONAP+Security+coordination
14:09:57 <CaseyODL> #undo
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14:10:10 <CaseyODL> #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/ONAP+Security+coordination Wiki page for Security
14:11:26 <CaseyODL> #topic ONAP Coordinators
14:11:31 <CaseyODL> phrobb: Please link it here.
14:11:58 <gildas> #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Technical+Community+Coordinators Wiki coordinator page
14:12:04 <CaseyODL> ty
14:13:47 <CaseyODL> #info phrobb suggests that self nomination is the best process to elect candidates for Coordinator roles to ensure that they have received the proper clearances from their parent organizations.
14:16:44 <CaseyODL> #info gildas Suggested to the TSC that Coordinators are only assisting the TSC in investigating and rallying the correct expertise for an individual area.  He also stated that if the TSC can always limit the number of coordinators.
14:17:49 <gildas> CaseyODL: you mean Mazin made the above suggestion.
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14:18:34 <CaseyODL> #info gilbert Suggested to the TSC that Coordinators are only assisting the TSC in investigating and rallying the correct expertise for an individual area.  He also stated that if the TSC can always limit the number of coordinators.
14:18:47 <CaseyODL> ty
14:19:43 <CaseyODL> #info phrobb There could be more than one Coordinator for SDOs to ensure that they have the correct contacts to those standards communities.
14:23:36 <Lingli_Deng> https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Technical+Community+Coordinators
14:25:45 <alla> #info - Phil, so are we having a single or multiple coordinators for SDOs?
14:27:14 <phrobb> #vote shall the TSC approve two coordinator roles, one for SDOs and the other for Open Source projects as defined  on the "Coordinator" page with edits discussed in meeting from Ms. Deng and Mr. Terrell? -1, 0, +1
14:27:27 <gilbert> +1
14:27:32 <cdonley> #vote +1
14:27:32 <Lingli_Deng> #vote +1
14:27:42 <gilbert> #vote +1
14:27:53 <phrobb> #startvote  shall the TSC approve two coordinator roles, one for SDOs and the other for Open Source projects as defined  on the "Coordinator" page with edits discussed in meeting from Ms. Deng and Mr. Terrell? -1, 0, +1
14:27:53 <collabot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC approve two coordinator roles, one for SDOs and the other for Open Source projects as defined  on the "Coordinator" page with edits discussed in meeting from Ms. Deng and Mr. Terrell? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
14:27:53 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:28:03 <gilbert> #vote +1
14:28:05 <RannyHaiby> #vote +1
14:28:05 <RobertoK_> #vote +1
14:28:06 <cdonley> #vote +1
14:28:06 <JasonHunt> #vote +1
14:28:07 <Lingli_Deng> #vote +1
14:28:08 <SteveT> #vote +1
14:28:08 <xinhuili> #vote +1
14:28:09 <Dhananjay_> #vote +1
14:28:16 <Xiaojun> #vote +1
14:28:16 <GraceLian_Intel> #vote +1
14:28:42 <Huabing_Zhao> #vote +1
14:29:08 <phrobb> #endvote
14:29:08 <collabot> Voted on "shall the TSC approve two coordinator roles, one for SDOs and the other for Open Source projects as defined  on the "Coordinator" page with edits discussed in meeting from Ms. Deng and Mr. Terrell?" Results are
14:29:08 <collabot> +1 (12): Xiaojun, RobertoK_, Huabing_Zhao, JasonHunt, xinhuili, SteveT, GraceLian_Intel, cdonley, Dhananjay_, gilbert, RannyHaiby, Lingli_Deng
14:29:22 <CaseyODL> #agree The TSC will approve Coordinator Roles for SDOs and Open Source Projects as defined on the Coordinator Page.
14:30:28 <CaseyODL> #topic Project Proposals
14:31:07 <alla> We are planning to bring a new project proposal, but it may be ready by Monday only. Is it still possible?
14:31:52 <CaseyODL> #info APPC - Not ready
14:32:08 <gildas> #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Proposing+A+Project link to ONAP Proposed Projects.
14:33:05 <CaseyODL> #info A&A - Not ready
14:33:58 <CaseyODL> #action phrobb gilbert and CaseyODL will go though the Project list and update the page to indicate their status on the wiki.
14:34:43 <gildas> Alla, according to Release Planning #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Release+Planning projects can be submitted until May 15 COB.
14:34:51 <CaseyODL> #info It was suggested that those responsible for a project to self evaluate and report status.
14:36:52 <CaseyODL> #action phrobb Will send an email to the Discuss list asking for committers to self evaluate before nomination for projects they will want to participate in.
14:37:05 <SteveT> Alla, I understand we can contribute with a project anytime.
14:37:59 <alla> for this release - till May 15th, as far as I understand, thanks to Gildas for providing the link
14:39:56 <CaseyODL> #info It was suggested that there be some some sort of verification process that someone is familiar with the code before becoming a committer.
14:40:58 <CaseyODL> #info gilbert Stated that the general process is that developers will start out as a contributor before becoming a Committer.  The start of these projects is an exception to this normal rule.
14:41:44 <CaseyODL> #info phrobb The projects know who is most familiar with the code and can assign initial Committers.
14:42:39 <gildas> SteveT, I understand the intention if your statement related to "we can contribute with a project anytime".However, we need to start somewhere. The only think we would not like to see is someone proposing a project for the first Release just the day before Release Planning (M1) milestone.
14:42:53 <bhedstrom> #info Is there a milestone date set where all new projects must be approved (and no new project proposals accepted) for the First Release?
14:43:07 <CaseyODL> #info phrobb Over the next few months, Committer lists will grow (or shrink if Committers are being unproductive or disruptive).
14:43:47 <helenchen> #info phrobb also mentioned the time commitment
14:44:44 <CaseyODL> #info CLAMP - Going smoothly.
14:45:19 <CaseyODL> #info Common Controller - Coming along well.  Close to ready.
14:45:28 <gildas> bhedstrom: Accoring to Release Planning Proposal #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Release+Planning The TSC expects to review and approved all project proposal by June 1.
14:46:12 <CaseyODL> #info DCAE - Missing how to normalize with OpenO code.  Need requirements from other projects.
14:46:49 <CaseyODL> #info Project proposals do not define release.
14:47:14 <SteveT> Gildas, it wasn't intended to be a disruptive comment.  Obviously if a project proposal comes later, then it is not likely to contribute anything from that project to the first release.
14:47:18 <CaseyODL> #info phrobb True, but there needs to be some level of integration for release.
14:47:49 <CaseyODL> #info DMaaP - No answer
14:47:58 <CaseyODL> #info Docs Coming along well.
14:48:21 <CaseyODL> #info External API - Coming along well.
14:48:53 <CaseyODL> He's breaking up...
14:49:04 <CaseyODL> for me
14:50:22 <CaseyODL> #info ICE - Still have some things that we are trying to work though.
14:50:57 <JasonHunt> the ICE comment was that they need to coordinate with VNF-SDK
14:50:58 <CaseyODL> I'm on OpenStack wifi and I'm having trouble with audio...
14:51:09 <CaseyODL> Can someone help me pound those last few in?
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14:51:50 <CaseyODL> #info ICE needs to coordinate with VNF-SDK.
14:54:28 <EricD> #info Please keep us (all contributors) in the loop for ICE and VNF-SDK discussions
14:55:15 <CaseyODL> #action gilbert and Lingli_Deng will meet to talk about forming a Subcommittee to discuss Use Cases
14:55:38 <CaseyODL> #info Modeling - Ready for review
14:56:08 <CaseyODL> #info Multi VIM / Cloud - Ready for Review.
14:56:26 <Kanagaraj> ONAP CLI : https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/ONAP+CLI
14:56:26 <CaseyODL> #info NFCM - No response
14:56:46 <CaseyODL> #info CLI - Ready for Review
14:56:56 <CaseyODL> #info Operations Manager - No response
14:57:03 <amir_levy> #info Amir Levy GigaSpaces
14:57:14 <CaseyODL> #info Portal Enhancements - No response.
14:57:48 <CaseyODL> #info Operations Manger - A proposal was submitted.
15:00:06 <JasonHunt> I have to drop at the top of the hour.  Can I ask that we clarify how to handle comments on projects over comment period?  Via the discuss mailing list or as comments on the wiki?
15:00:29 <CaseyODL> #action gilbert Will reach out to the rest of the projects to get their status.
15:00:38 <CaseyODL> #topic China F2F
15:01:04 <CaseyODL> #info There will be a registration and information page up by next week.
15:01:53 <Dhananjay_> exit
15:01:54 <CaseyODL> #info Lingli_Deng It is our pleasure to host this event.  Please register as soon as possible so that we can make adjustments to the venue as necessary.
15:02:37 <CaseyODL> #cookies
15:02:45 <CaseyODL> #endmeeting