01:38:23 #startmeeting ONAP F2F 01:38:23 Meeting started Thu Jun 8 01:38:23 2017 UTC. The chair is CaseyODL. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:38:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 01:38:23 The meeting name has been set to 'onap_f2f' 01:38:39 #chair kennypaul phrobb 01:38:39 Current chairs: CaseyODL kennypaul phrobb 01:50:37 #topic Release Planning 01:57:11 #info Gildas is presenting the Release Plan, and the Release Planning template 02:03:43 #action TSC to determine if there will be a unit test code coverage for quality assurance for Release 1 02:05:20 #info the amount of unit testing coverage is a topic of debate in the room based on our goal of Nov 2nd for a first release 02:08:10 #info Helen Chen notes that Integration will build a Template and framework for how to build tests more simply by project. Having a test coverage of 30 or 50 percent might be reassonable. Integration will also build a "bootstrap" material for new developer resources and ecnourages all projects to do the same 02:09:18 #info Chris Donley notes 3 levers for the release - Date, Scope, and quality. Date seems fixed. Scope can only go as low as "Min. viable product", so that leaves Quality to play with. We'll need to find that compromise 02:11:37 #info Gildas notes that the TSC may want to oversee that committs have an associated Jira ID, and/or specs for quality of documentation on the commit. 02:12:19 #info currently the system allows self commits (ie the contributor commit the code). 02:12:38 #info Oliver suggests that self-commits be not-allowed 02:14:43 #info the question of using checkstyle and what we make manditory for code form 02:38:07 #topic Use case review 02:38:21 #info Chris Donley, Huawei 02:38:26 #vCPE 02:39:16 #info vCPE 02:39:19 #info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson 02:40:01 #info TSC Members please #info in as you are able to join the IRC channel. We will want to know who is online and participating so that we know we have quorum 02:40:05 #info Huabing Zhao, ZTE, speak on behalf of Zhaoxing Meng 02:40:16 Thanks Huabing 02:40:27 #info Xiaojun Xie, China Telecom 02:42:07 Thanks Phil 02:46:49 #info Questions from Helen Chen. We need VNFs as soon as possible to test. 02:49:47 #info there are VNF vendors that may be interested outside the ONAP community. how do we interact with them? 02:59:54 #info Oliver Spatscheck, AT&T 03:05:38 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3246140 <-- V0LTE Use case wiki page 03:06:54 #info We currently have 5 TSC members on IRC. We need 10 to be able to vote here. All TSC members please #info in so that we know you are here 03:08:06 #info Lingli presented vVoLTE use cases. 03:08:08 #info Ranny Haiby, Nokia 03:08:17 #info noted that open to vendors still 03:08:42 #info question from Oliver. What does approval of the use case mean. Does it mean its is gating the release. 03:09:27 #info the answer is that this was not considered as a gating, but to show that it can handle work. 03:10:18 #info someone might have problem logging in IRC. 03:10:42 #info Gating will be more related to the what we need to put into the integration, and be availble to all developers. Need to have both. 03:11:23 #info Call from brian on the next level of detail, e.g. heat guidelines, tosca templates. How to demonstrate both 03:11:56 #info modelling project is expecting to use both. 03:14:26 #info Amir Levy GigaSpaces 03:14:45 #info David Sauvageau Bell Canada 03:18:52 #info Eric presented the vEPC proposal (which is also in the vVoLTE wiki 03:21:22 #info approach is looking to looking to use APP-C where the first presentation was using VF-C. 03:29:23 #info this use case is both the APP-C approach and the PNFs 03:31:31 #info Question is also do we group the use cases as one, or seperate. Do we allow vote on vVoLTE now and allow the vEPC to mature 03:34:39 #info Oliver, Catherine, Helen, Bryan, Erik, Lingli Stephen to create the integration project proposal 03:35:30 #Action Helen, lead the discussion to create the proposal for what we need to bring into integration 03:36:14 #info Rajesh Gadiyar 03:37:31 #info are you confortable to vote on the vVoLTE use case (to TSC memebers). Yes 13 03:37:45 #vote +1 03:38:29 #info votequestion "Shall the TSC approve the vVoLTE use case as presnefor Release 1 as presente d by lingli" 03:38:38 #vote +1 03:38:45 #vote +1 03:38:47 #vote +1 03:38:58 #vote +1 03:38:59 #vote +1 (voted in the room) 03:39:07 #vote +1 03:39:10 #vote +1 03:39:42 #vote +1 in room 03:42:16 #info Rajesh Gadiyar intel 03:45:04 #info vote results. 13 hands were raised in the room. plus the votes on IRC 03:45:09 #info the vote was approved 03:45:58 #info stephen requested a TSC memember to support Helen in the definition of the integration use cases that everyone can have access to, where it consideres the needs described by the demo use cases 03:46:07 #info lingli volenteered for that 03:46:38 #topic Architecture Subcommittee 03:52:47 can you guys share screen? very hard to follow 03:57:25 #info TSC Members present at the Face to Face include Roberto Klung, Oliver Spatscheck (proxy for Mazin Gilbert) Alla Goldner, Stephen Terrill, Lingli Deng, Bruce Thompson (proxy for Ed Warnicke), Amir Levy, Jason Hunt, Rajesh Gadiyar, Zhaoxing Meng, Xiaojun Xie, Xinhui Li 04:05:32 #topic Architecture discussion. Chris Donley provided an update on the initial formation of the architecture committee and the initial funct arch. diagram that is under discussion. He emphasizes that no firm architectural suggestions are being made yet as the group has not been together enough. 04:07:58 #topic architecture 04:08:39 #info chris presented the architecture and architecture committee . It is advaisary and not a blocking issue for projects, but help to keep things together 06:02:12 Project Review Schedule: https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=6590432 06:06:12 #topic project reviews 06:06:30 #info now going through the project reviews. 06:06:41 SteveT: Thanks for helping with notes. Audio for me isn't great. :( 06:07:20 Will try to be as active as possible. I couldn't do it for the architecture, on the other hand no decisions. 06:08:45 #info https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4719898 06:09:20 #undo 06:09:20 Removing item from minutes: 06:09:28 #topic CLAMP Review 06:09:32 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4719898 06:12:32 #info CLAMP will have no new APIs 06:13:40 #info no seen overlap between SNIRO and CLAMP 06:14:12 thanks Jason! 06:18:43 #info policies will be defined in the policy framework, and then CLAMP can pull those policy definitions to create a closed-loop 06:20:10 #vote +1 06:20:10 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the CLAMP Project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 06:20:10 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the CLAMP Project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 06:20:10 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 06:20:16 #vote +1 06:20:21 #vote +1 06:20:24 #vote + 06:20:24 amir_levy: + is not a valid option. Valid options are +1, 0, -1. 06:20:27 #vote +1 06:20:28 #vote+1 06:20:39 Steve you need a space 06:20:40 #vote +1 06:20:51 #vote +1 06:21:09 #info there are 8 TSC members in the room that vote to approve the CLAMP project 06:21:40 #agreed the TSC has approved the CLAMP project as an incubation project within ONAP 06:21:52 #endvote 06:21:52 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the CLAMP Project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 06:21:52 +1 (5): amir_levy, Dsauvageau, JasonHunt, SteveT, RannyHaiby 06:21:54 #endvote 06:22:11 #agreed the TSC has approved the CLAMP project as an incubation project within ONAP 06:22:26 #topic VF-C 06:22:32 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3246989 06:35:15 #info request to add a note to clarify that that the "S-VNFM drivers"/"plugins" are not part of the VF-C project deliverables. 06:41:47 #info discussion about differences in lifecycle management when using APP-C vs VF-C. 06:42:31 #info proposal to provisionally approve pending on architecture committee 06:47:42 #info if doing a provisional approval, the provisional approval has to be very clear. and it means that act as if approval was required. 06:49:03 #info proposal in this case was that the provisional approval is "provisional on the conclusions of the architecture discussion do not change the scope of the VF-C" 06:50:06 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the VF-C Project as an incubation project within ONAP provisional on alignment with the overall architecture if such dependencies are identified? +1, 0, -1 06:50:06 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the VF-C Project as an incubation project within ONAP provisional on alignment with the overall architecture if such dependencies are identified? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 06:50:06 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 06:50:19 #vote +1 06:50:30 #vote +1 06:50:33 #vote 0 06:50:47 #endvote 06:50:47 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the VF-C Project as an incubation project within ONAP provisional on alignment with the overall architecture if such dependencies are identified?" Results are 06:50:47 0 (1): Dsauvageau 06:50:47 +1 (2): RajeshGadiyar, JasonHunt 06:51:21 can you hear me? 06:51:29 no 06:51:30 #info vote approved 14 TSC members also approved 06:51:47 I can hea 06:51:51 someone needs to end vote and info the agree 06:52:08 anybody on the audio bridge can be heard? 06:52:20 #topic ONAP Operations Manager 06:52:27 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3246809 06:53:10 #endvote 06:53:37 sorry, vote was ended, but should do an info on what TSC agreed. I can do it but I thought Casey or Phil were 06:54:39 new to the meeting bot. Sorry. 06:54:49 #agreed the TSC approved the VF-C Project as an incubation project within ONAP provisional on alignment with the overall architecture if such dependencies are identified 06:56:05 #topic ONAP operations manager 07:03:33 #question was whether this also deploys onap as a "single node", the answer was that yes 07:04:01 #info question whether this also depoloys onap as a single node; the answer was yes 07:04:23 #info there is release code available 07:09:22 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the Operations Manager project as an Incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 07:09:22 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the Operations Manager project as an Incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 07:09:22 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 07:09:31 #vote +1 07:09:32 #vote +1 07:09:45 #vote +1 07:09:50 #vote +1 07:10:15 #endvote 07:10:15 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the Operations Manager project as an Incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 07:10:15 +1 (4): RajeshGadiyar, Dsauvageau, JasonHunt, SteveT 07:10:21 congratulations David 07:10:35 #info according to the vote in the room, the vote is passed 07:10:53 #info 10 TSC members voted in favor in the room 07:11:08 #agreed the TSC approved the Operations Manager project as an Incubation project within ONAP 07:11:16 #topic VNF-SDK 07:11:26 #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/VNF+SDK 07:16:55 #info clarified that "VNF validation" means just the first level of validation 07:17:57 #info will work with the modeling project to handle the packaging (ala CSAR file, etc.) 07:21:53 #info clarifying that this project is a test framework with code from Open-O and ICE (AT&T), but logo validation criteria are not in scope for this project. 07:22:40 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the VNF-SDK project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 07:22:40 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the VNF-SDK project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 07:22:40 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 07:22:45 #vote +1 07:22:47 #vote +1 07:23:02 #info 12 TSC members voted in favor in the room 07:23:08 #endvote 07:23:08 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the VNF-SDK project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 07:23:08 +1 (2): JasonHunt, SteveT 07:23:23 #agreed the TSC approved the VNF-SDK project as an incubation project within ONAP 07:23:39 #topic Multi VIM/Cloud 07:23:49 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3247262 07:35:32 #info Question: is this for more than different variants of openstack. The answer is yes, but over time 07:42:59 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the MultiVIM/Cloud Project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 07:42:59 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the MultiVIM/Cloud Project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 07:42:59 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 07:43:05 #votre +1 07:43:13 #vote +1 07:43:18 #vote +1 07:43:24 #info 11 TSC members in the room voted in favor 07:43:48 #endvote 07:46:35 #endvote 07:46:35 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the MultiVIM/Cloud Project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 07:46:35 +1 (2): JasonHunt, SteveT 07:46:40 #agreed the TSC approved the MultiVIM/Cloud Project as an incubation project within ONAP 07:47:05 #topic SDC 07:47:08 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3246935 07:53:46 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the SDC project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 07:53:46 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the SDC project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 07:53:46 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 07:53:54 #vote +1 07:54:23 #info 12 TSC members in the room voted in favor 07:54:23 #endvote 07:54:23 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the SDC project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 07:54:23 +1 (1): JasonHunt 07:54:33 #agreed the TSC approved the SDC project as an incubation project within ONAP 07:54:39 #topic MSB 07:54:46 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3246982 08:07:01 my computer battery is drained, so I won't be able to do any more updates in IRC... kennypaul, will you still be on? 08:07:11 yes 08:07:35 if you can do the #info on the number of votes and the #agreed and #topic that would be great 08:07:58 I'll give it a shot. Thanks for your help 08:08:48 thanks! 08:13:08 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the MSB project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1? 08:13:08 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the MSB project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1? Valid vote options are Yes, No. 08:13:08 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 08:14:10 #info voted in room 10 +1 08:14:22 #endvote 08:14:22 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the MSB project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1?" Results are 08:14:22 #undo 08:14:22 Removing item from minutes: 08:15:00 #info voted in room 10 +1 08:15:49 #agreed the TSC approved the MSB project as an incubation project within ONAP 08:16:50 #topic VID 08:17:03 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5735532 08:24:16 #endvote 08:24:25 ... just double checking 08:38:51 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the VID project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 08:38:51 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the VID project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 08:38:51 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 08:39:02 #vote +1 08:39:22 #info voted in room 12 +1 08:39:32 #endvote 08:39:32 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the VID project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 08:39:32 +1 (1): Dsauvageau 08:40:03 #agreed the TSC approves the VID project as an incubation project within ONAP 08:40:19 #topic External System Register 08:40:38 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5734948 08:50:31 #info proposal to have ESR as a subproject of A&AI. 08:52:48 #info swapping A&AI review timeslot with the Integration project to provide additional time to discuss. 08:57:17 #topic ONAP CLI 08:57:20 https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3246889 08:59:26 #info ESR vote is deferred until after ESR and A&AI have a chance to discuss their relationship, and deliverables resolving overlaps. 09:09:55 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the ONAP CLI project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 09:09:55 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the ONAP CLI project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 09:09:55 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 09:10:16 #info voted in room 12 +1 09:10:25 #endvote 09:10:25 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the ONAP CLI project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 09:11:03 #agreed the TSC approves the ONAP CLI project as an incubation project within ONAP 09:11:21 #topic ONAP Usecase UI 09:11:43 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3247207 09:27:57 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the Usecase UI project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 09:27:57 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the Usecase UI project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 09:27:57 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 09:28:26 #info voted in room 11 + 09:28:27 #endvote 09:28:27 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the Usecase UI project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 09:28:50 #info that was 11 +1 09:29:20 #agreed the TSC approves the Usecase UI project as an incubation project within ONAP 09:29:32 #topic Holmes 09:29:43 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5734499 09:55:14 #info vote one Holmes deferred pending more discussion. 09:55:28 #topic portal platform 09:55:31 #link 09:55:37 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3247211 10:08:23 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the Portal Platform project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 10:08:23 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the Portal Platform project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 10:08:23 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:08:48 #info voted in room 13 +1 10:08:53 #endvite 10:08:57 #endvote 10:08:57 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the Portal Platform project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 10:09:26 #agreed the TSC approves the Portal Platform project as an incubation project within ONAP 10:09:58 #topic Policy framework 10:10:04 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3246903 10:27:35 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the Policy Framework project as an incubation project within ONAP? +1, 0, -1 10:27:35 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the Policy Framework project as an incubation project within ONAP? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 10:27:35 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:28:01 we have lost audio 10:28:18 they are trying to get it back 10:30:30 zoom should be back 10:31:24 Was Policy vote completed? 10:40:28 #info policy project was approved, 10 votes in teh room 10:40:35 #endvote 10:41:03 #endvote 10:41:03 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the Policy Framework project as an incubation project within ONAP?" Results are 10:52:14 #topic Integration Project 10:52:39 #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4718718 11:01:57 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the Integration Project as an incubation project within ONAP conditional on revisiting the scope along with the Open Lab discussion and clarification of the end to end testing? +1, 0, -1 11:01:57 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the Integration Project as an incubation project within ONAP conditional on revisiting the scope along with the Open Lab discussion and clarification of the end to end testing? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1. 11:01:57 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 11:02:18 #info voted in room 11+1 11:05:43 #agreed the TSC approves the Integration Project as an incubation project within ONAP conditional on revisiting the scope along with the Open Lab discussion and clarification of the end to end testing 11:08:50 #endvote 11:08:50 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the Integration Project as an incubation project within ONAP conditional on revisiting the scope along with the Open Lab discussion and clarification of the end to end testing?" Results are 11:08:58 #endmeeting