13:45:30 <kennypaul> #startmeeting vf2f 2018-02-07
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13:45:34 <kennypaul> #chair phrobb, BinY_, SteveT
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13:45:34 <collabot`> Current chairs: BinY_ SteveT kennypaul phrobb
14:01:52 <SteveT> #info Stephen Terrill, ERicsson
14:02:25 <Zhaoxing_Meng> #info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE
14:02:52 <cdonley> #info Chris Donley Huawei
14:06:36 <SteveT> #topic MSB Tutorial
14:06:51 <SteveT> #info Huabing Zhao presented the MSB tutorial
14:08:25 <SteveT> #info Huabing also offered that the tutorial can be given to projects upon request.
14:22:36 <SteveT> #info MSB is offering a RPC call, so if there is no exception it should be understood that the message is recieved by the reciever
14:33:53 <kennypaul> #info just a comment for Huabing Zhao... this is the scenario.. the receiver received a message, but the return confirmation communciation is lost. In this case, the sender did not get a successful response. Then, the sender may try to send the same message again even though the receiver received the messge. I guess MSB inherits the HTTP/HTTPS messaging reliability issue. I will contact Huabing off-line.
14:36:17 <SteveT> #topic Modeling subcommittee
14:37:24 <SteveT> #info There are several sub topics here.
14:38:15 <SteveT> #info The first subtopic is Service IM
14:45:06 <SteveT> #info next sub-topic is resource IM
14:45:24 <SteveT> #info PNFD is not defined yet, but it is consiered as a resource IM.
14:49:42 <SteveT> #info there were questions about the relationship between the service and the service component.  The response was the service was more related to the customer facing service
14:50:18 <SteveT> #info Not all artifacts are yet captured in the VNF descriptor
14:53:10 <SteveT> #info the resource model is defined in a uniform way (irrespective of whether it is managed by VF-C or APP-C)
14:56:46 <SteveT> #info There was a request to discuss the modelling with the projects at a project level as well.
15:01:15 <SteveT> #info There was a question whether a service that is an infrastructure servce can be used as a service comonent in another service.  The answer was that it was thought that substition could use.  And it also said a service can be nested to be part of another service.
15:02:20 <SteveT> #info Next sub-topic was data model aspects
15:05:43 <SteveT> #info All datamodel information is available in the modelling sub-committee wikis
15:12:32 <SteveT> #info Discussion about aligning with standards or go for a comosite resource approach as described in the wiki.
15:13:51 <SteveT> #info next subtopic is parser centralization
15:15:30 <SteveT> #info there is a weekly call for the parser tiger team.  they are preparing the user stories and requirements.  Will look at API access of this parser as a service, exception handling interactation, can a placeholder be created in modelling project to on-board various parsers and abstract them with an API.  PoC activities.
15:17:05 <SteveT> #info the PoC is to see if there if the centralized parser makes sense.
15:19:21 <SteveT> #info - question was do the PTLs that are using teh SDC parser today agree they need another library that is remoted.  Response.  The response was that the OPNF Parser is a good standard parser.
15:20:01 <SteveT> #info it was indicated that the OPNFV parser supuports yaml 1.1, with yaml 1.2 in developement
15:22:26 <SteveT> #info when considering java libraries, consider both python as well as java
15:23:31 <SteveT> #info correction - that was when considering common libraries, consider both python and java
15:25:38 <kennypaul> #link for video https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Modeling+tools
15:25:51 <SteveT> #info next subtopic was a papryus tutorial, but suggested to look at the provided link
15:26:08 <SteveT> #info There was a request for contact for all components.
15:33:53 <SteveT> #topic 	Usecase Subcommittee Review
15:33:58 <SteveT> #info presented by Alla
15:49:50 <SteveT> #info PNF is configured with SDNC as its a L1-L3 PNF
15:58:16 <SteveT> #info PNF support for changemanagement has not discussed change management and scaling.  Not expected to be in Beijing.
16:03:46 <SteveT> #info It was noted that there is no SDC Epic for pnf support, SO neither
16:07:33 <kennypaul> #endmeeting