18:02:15 #startmeeting 2015-11-11 discussion 18:02:15 Meeting started Wed Nov 11 18:02:15 2015 UTC. The chair is vbatts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:02:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:02:15 The meeting name has been set to '2015_11_11_discussion' 18:02:54 #topic ocitools - mrunalp 18:03:37 #topic cgroup values 18:04:48 Vishnu: Spec should not be limited to just go 18:05:19 I didn't see an agenda for today is there one? 18:06:02 anuthan - agenda was roadmap, then open issues. 18:06:03 #chairs RobDolinMS 18:06:19 vbatts, I think the command is #chair (w/o the "s") 18:06:31 #chair RobDolinMS 18:06:31 Current chairs: RobDolinMS vbatts 18:06:36 k 18:07:17 vbatts: the problem we're trying to solve is three things: 18:07:24 (1) people want to set values 18:07:30 (2) people want to go with defaults 18:07:41 (3) people want something explicit for not-set values 18:07:54 Mrunal - If null, don't touch it 18:08:10 Mrunal: instead of -1 which could have a meaning for some cgroups 18:09:13 so really only two things to solve with what ever approach 18:09:30 (Did someone start the meeting already?) 18:09:37 #topic Merged Roadmpa 18:09:44 #topic Merged Roadmap 18:10:17 VBatts: Now that we've merged the roadmap, we can get working. 18:10:59 https://github.com/opencontainers/specs/blob/master/ROADMAP.md 18:11:21 #link https://github.com/opencontainers/specs/blob/master/ROADMAP.md Roadmap 18:11:22 Next it will be good if we can get this merged https://github.com/opencontainers/specs/pull/231 18:13:38 VBatts: Does the config have to be human-readable? 18:14:07 Mrunal: Tooling would write the proto file instead of the JSON? 18:15:11 Michael: I thought we're still sticking with the JSON for what's on disk but using protos to generate bindings 18:16:01 VBatts: That's correct, but ... 18:16:27 Michael: Aren't there tools for JSON schema that generate language bindings? 18:16:38 Mrunal: that's worth looking into 18:18:04 Jason Bouzane: Can we have tooling to export an ASCII version of the protobuf ? 18:19:51 #topic Lifecycle PR 18:20:19 #link https://github.com/opencontainers/specs/pull/231 18:20:33 Michael planning to review 18:20:43 https://github.com/opencontainers/specs/pull/231 18:20:51 #topic Actions PR 18:20:56 #info coming soon 18:21:54 #topic Volunteering to help with roadmap 18:22:05 #info Michael recommends submitting a PR to volunteer yourself 18:22:58 Jesse glad to help with cross-platform too; call-out where he (and colleagues) can help 18:23:37 #topic What comes after 1.0? 18:23:52 I would like to have lifecycle sorted out as part of the next milestone. 18:23:56 #info Possibly some of the initial hashing and checking 18:24:54 Mrunal: Could we just do something basic with a checksum? 18:25:33 VBatts: Once you get a bundle, unless you keep a tar, it may be hard to validate after extraction. 18:26:02 VBatts: Anything else after that may get into net new technology. 18:27:41 Jason: important to be able to verify individual files on disk. 18:28:06 VBatts: Maybe just provide requirements but not specifics of how to do it. 18:29:17 VBatts: This piece of spec may be more requirements than specifics. 18:30:05 Jason: Not sure I agree; It's important to be able to verify contents with possibly different wrappers (tar, etc.) 18:30:32 Jason: We may want to have something in space that allows you to do those sorts of things. 18:31:21 Jason: It wouldn't just be contents, might want to include other items 18:32:50 Mrunal: If we want to pursue this, how do we start with small steps? 18:34:57 hashing protos sounds like IPFS ;) 18:35:52 #action Jason Create PR or start email thread on this topic 18:37:01 #EndMeeting