21:59:25 <vbatts> #startmeeting 2017-01-18 discussion 21:59:25 <collabot> Meeting started Wed Jan 18 21:59:25 2017 UTC. The chair is vbatts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:59:25 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 21:59:25 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to '2017_01_18_discussion' 22:00:21 <mrunalp> crosbymichael, stevvooe, vishh: Joining? 22:09:13 <mrunalp> #topic https://github.com/opencontainers/runtime-spec/pull/508 22:09:20 <duglin> thanks 22:09:50 <mrunalp> post 1.0 22:09:53 <mrunalp> everyone agrees 22:10:35 <mrunalp> #topic https://github.com/opencontainers/runtime-spec/pull/507 22:11:49 <mrunalp> post 1.0 22:11:55 <mrunalp> #topic https://github.com/opencontainers/runtime-spec/pull/490 22:12:21 <mrunalp> Assigning to vbatts to take a look 22:14:25 <mrunalp> Looks good and merged 22:14:42 <mrunalp> https://github.com/opencontainers/runtime-spec/pull/471 22:14:45 <mrunalp> Needs rebase 22:29:52 <stevvooe> mrunalp: i'm on irc only 22:30:23 <mrunalp> stevvooe, okay, we are triaging runtime PRs 22:30:48 <dqminh> yah,but my mic is dead as usual 22:31:09 <mrunalp> dqminh, no worries :) 22:40:27 <stephenrwalli> Which PR did you want Stephen Day commentary on please? 22:41:39 <wking> mrunalp: chair me? 22:41:50 <mrunalp> #chair wking 22:41:56 <mrunalp> wking, vbatts started it.. 22:41:59 <mrunalp> vbatts, ^^^ 22:42:06 <wking> #topic https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/pull/506 22:42:36 <wking> vbatts: I feel like we should have annotations in different places (in the runtime too) 22:42:45 <wking> vbatts: license information could live in annotations 22:43:00 <wking> vbatts: I don't think license info should be a stand-alone field 22:43:24 <wking> vbatts: other packaging formats also struggle with licensing, and structured schemas go obsolete quickly 22:43:51 <wking> RobDolinMS: I think there's a LF project to form a licensing standard, but I'm not sure what state it's in 22:44:01 <wking> vbatts: there have been a few attempts at standardizing 22:44:18 <wking> tianon: the OSI has some standardization around OSI-approved licensing 22:44:32 <wking> someone: I don't think we want spdx in the container format 22:45:50 <wking> stephenrwalli: spdx is also a lot of boilerplate to pull into an accessible standard 22:45:59 <wking> RobDolinMS: I think we can scope this outside of v1 22:46:09 <stephenrwalli> +1 22:46:27 <wking> #topic https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/pull/505 22:46:41 <wking> merged 22:46:41 <stevvooe> let's close 506 22:46:43 <wking> #topic https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/pull/504 22:48:07 <wking> stevvooe: this would prevent what we're currently doing in Docker 22:48:30 <wking> vbatts: so what happens now? 22:48:47 <wking> stevvooe: you can copy up from a volume. You're just not necessarily snapshotting that data in the volume 22:49:00 <wking> stevvooe: the language is also ambiguous 22:49:40 <wking> I need to step back out for a bit, mrunalp. Can you pick up the minutes again? 22:49:57 <mrunalp> yeah 22:50:43 <mrunalp> stevvooe: we don't enough info around runtime execution to make statements around what can/can't be done with data volumes 22:51:06 <mrunalp> mikebrow, makes sense to have a means to switch it off but not forbid it 22:53:53 <mrunalp> #topic https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/pull/506 22:54:06 <mrunalp> stevvooe, why put licensing in content descriptor? 22:57:17 <mrunalp> vbatts, flatpack has its own reverse DNS notation. 22:57:28 <mrunalp> vbatts, There is a manifest of dep trees 22:57:48 <mrunalp> vbatts, It makes no sense to do it at descriptor level 22:58:28 <mrunalp> vbatts, what people chose to put in field is upto them 22:59:13 <mrunalp> stevvooe, Why denormalize? 23:02:00 <stephenrwalli> ‘Fraid I have to step into the next mtg … 23:02:21 <mrunalp> RobDolinMS, stevvooe vbatts can discuss next week? 23:04:06 <mrunalp> stevvooe, how do annotations combine? 23:05:48 <mrunalp> mikebrow, We should do this post 1.0 23:06:38 <mrunalp> vbatts, This is being asked by implementors trying out rcs 23:07:45 <mrunalp> vbatts, could you endmeeting? 23:07:57 <vbatts> #endmeeting