00:00:10 <paulz> #startmeeting 00:00:10 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 26 00:00:10 2014 UTC. The chair is paulz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:00:10 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 00:00:17 <colinmcnamara> Colin Here 00:00:36 <paulz> Hey Colin, happy Tuesday! Just waiting for folks (obviously!) 00:01:15 <paulz> We have a list of topics that Rob posted 00:01:20 <paulz> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Documentation_Group 00:01:24 <colinmcnamara> Happy tuestday to you too 00:01:29 <paulz> :-) 00:03:23 <colinmcnamara> sorry for the typo's. In a passenger seat of a car bouncing around 00:03:39 <paulz> Not bad for that environment! 00:04:09 <colinmcnamara> :) 00:04:52 <paulz> Hi Greg 00:05:05 <gjs_cisco> Hi, sorry I’m late. Password problems 00:05:32 <paulz> No worries... waiting for Rob too, although maybe we'll get rolling if he's not here shortly 00:06:54 <paulz> #topic Welcome and Intros 00:07:38 <paulz> akim, are you on? 00:08:27 <paulz> Otherwise, it's the core crew here... intros unnecessary! 00:08:37 <colinmcnamara> k 00:09:36 <paulz> Any additional topics? If no, I can jump into actions from last time... 00:09:47 <gjs_cisco> Nothing from me. 00:10:11 <colinmcnamara> noyhing here 00:10:21 <paulz> #topic Actions from Last Meeting 00:10:46 <paulz> I think I had the main actions from last time 00:10:54 <paulz> I contacted the ODL mailer person about listserv, looks like we got a list 00:11:03 <paulz> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation 00:11:16 <paulz> I updated the project proposal 00:11:26 <paulz> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Documentation 00:11:37 <paulz> Once your feedback is in, we can submit to the ODL operating committee 00:11:50 <paulz> I didn't get any work done on the group page, but Rob did a nice job! 00:12:03 <paulz> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Documentation_Group 00:12:21 <colinmcnamara> agreed 00:13:25 <paulz> I also set up this meeting... which might not be the most successful, as we are missing a couple of folks... Rob has been a great contributor, so I want to make sure we find a time that works for him. Also, Nan from China wants to join, hence this timing... but we might need to find a better time. 00:14:00 <paulz> That's all the actions from the last one... 00:14:58 <mlemay> sorry guys 00:15:04 <mlemay> was in the wrong chnl 00:15:24 <paulz> Hi mlemay... looks like we should jump back to intros! 00:15:46 <paulz> #topic Back to Intros 00:15:50 <mlemay> I don't want to waste ppl's time 00:16:08 <mlemay> but if you guys don't mind a quickie 00:16:16 <paulz> Don't mind at all! 00:16:29 <paulz> I'm Paul Zimmerman from Cisco 00:16:30 <colinmcnamara> i dont mind 00:16:58 <gjs_cisco> I’m Greg Saunders. I work with Paul and I worked on some of the original ODL documentation last summer. 00:17:25 <colinmcnamara> I'm Colin McNamara from NexusIS. Core Reviewer on OpenStack Docs 00:17:49 <mlemay> Hi Paul, Greg, Nice to meet you (albeit virtually) 00:19:21 <mlemay> Hi Colin, right you know one of my past collegues (everett Toews) 00:19:40 <colinmcnamara> I think so 00:20:13 <paulz> Hi Nan, we're just doing intros 00:20:27 <NZHOU> Hi everyone :) 00:20:52 <NZHOU> Sorry that I am late 00:20:52 <colinmcnamara> question, do we have everything necessary in the project proposal 00:21:07 <colinmcnamara> or do we need example code 00:21:13 <paulz> OK, let's move on to that... 00:21:15 <paulz> #topic 00:21:21 <mlemay> I'm Mathieu Lemay , Inocybe Technologies (Initially an R&D shop on network virtualization since 2005) 00:21:44 <paulz> Nice to have you, Mathieu! 00:21:52 <colinmcnamara> +1 00:21:57 <paulz> #topic Project Proposal 00:22:15 <paulz> OK, on to the project proposal 00:22:16 <paulz> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Documentation 00:22:22 <mlemay> Thank you... preproject is everyone aware of the toolchain we started? 00:22:52 <mlemay> Got some help from David Cramer in redoing the Rackspace plugins 00:22:57 <paulz> Colin, I'm not sure about the need for example code... for the proposal, what kind of code example would you suggest? 00:23:18 <paulz> No, Mathieu, not aware of it... please share! 00:23:29 <colinmcnamara> it was more a question as how much was required for approval of the proposal 00:23:58 <colinmcnamara> I've only been involved with OVSDB which was already approved, and the app policy which is much different than this 00:24:06 <paulz> Colin, looking at the other proposals, ours seems on par with the level of detail. 00:24:13 <colinmcnamara> cool 00:24:51 <mlemay> I think it is enough.. I am happy that it is considered as last time I talked about proposing a proper documentation project I was pushed to merge with Integration 00:25:28 <colinmcnamara> cool 00:25:44 <mlemay> People saw this right : http://docs.inocybe.com/install-guide/content/ch_install.html 00:25:56 <mlemay> http://docs.inocybe.com/install-guide/install-guide-20140316.pdf 00:26:15 <NZHOU> This is nice 00:26:15 <colinmcnamara> very nice 00:27:02 <mlemay> I got started on the toolchain a couple of weeks ago... I also have the following which I just removed from integration: 00:27:19 <paulz> Um, that's exactly what we've been working to propose... this is great! 00:27:21 <colinmcnamara> one thing that I think we can add, as a todo is a kanban board location for grabbing todo tasks 00:27:28 <mlemay> https://bitbucket.org/inocybe/odl-documentation/overview 00:27:46 <mlemay> started 2 guides and 1 howto 00:27:56 <mlemay> for your consideration 00:27:58 <colinmcnamara> very cool 00:28:02 <mlemay> sorry to be throwing this at you gu ys 00:28:10 <gjs_cisco> Wow, your off to a great start 00:28:11 <mlemay> just didn't know about the group 00:28:22 <colinmcnamara> i always think it is great to see people so eager and able to contribute 00:28:25 <colinmcnamara> thats a good thing :) 00:28:33 <colinmcnamara> my perspective at least 00:28:45 <paulz> No need for apologies... this is meeting #2 on IRC, so you're here pretty close to the beginning! 00:29:42 <paulz> So this is a huge amount of the tooling work that we have been considering... Mathieu, you've definitely moved this project ahead already. 00:30:03 <mlemay> ok great.. :) thanks.. We started post-summit as I believe it is still very much needed 00:30:21 <mlemay> Right now Docbook works but I'm going to fix Asciidoc shortly 00:30:41 <paulz> So Mathieu, can we give you the action to write something up on this toolchain so we can have a greater understanding of what you set up? 00:30:50 <mlemay> yes 00:30:55 <mlemay> no problem 00:31:01 <mlemay> do you want it on wiki? 00:31:03 <colinmcnamara> fyi, battery is about to die. if I drop, not ignoring anyone 00:31:13 <paulz> #action Mathieu to document the work he's done on the toolchain 00:31:16 <NZHOU> Yes, so we can also contribute :) 00:31:27 <paulz> No worries, Colin... hang in there@! 00:31:42 <akim> paulz, hi 00:31:58 <mlemay> perfect 00:32:01 <paulz> Hi akim... mind if you give a quick intro on who you are? 00:32:17 <mlemay> One thing to note, Phil asked me to put toolchain plugin outside as it's Apache 00:32:32 <mlemay> which is why the plugin itself is on github 00:32:35 <akim> paulz, im andrew kim from cisco, committer on opendaylight controller project 00:32:43 <paulz> OK, great! 00:33:01 <akim> trying to start a project and thought i might help out with documentation 00:33:09 <paulz> Sounds good. 00:33:10 <networkstatic> hi guys 00:33:44 <mlemay> feel free to make changes to it , it's a fork from Rackspace.. and I also my my branding for our distro but I'm planning to reorganize the branding structure as an external maven dep, the way rackspace did it is really hardcoded 00:34:15 <paulz> OK, back to the project proposal... looks like we have a toolchain set up for evaluation, so that's an excellent start. As far as the proposal, do we need to add anything to the doc about this before submitting it to the Operating Committee? 00:34:47 <mlemay> Paulz: I liked your proposal page , I think the goals are pretty much right-on... 00:35:59 <paulz> OK, let's get it in then... if the OC has any issues, I'm sure they will let us know. 00:36:19 <NZHOU> One thing on the proposal page 00:36:56 <NZHOU> sometime you mention subproject (Doc Tools Workflow) while sometimes you mention project (Content Conversion) 00:37:17 <paulz> Ah, inconsistency... I'll fix that. Thanks for finding it! 00:37:28 <NZHOU> Thx Paul!! 00:37:36 <paulz> #action Paul to clean up proposal before submitting to OC 00:38:14 <paulz> Otherwise, it sounds like we're OK to move forward... any other concerns? 00:38:30 <networkstatic> love the diversity fwiw 00:38:39 <networkstatic> awesome group 00:38:42 <NZHOU> No other concerns from my side 00:38:59 <networkstatic> one Q 00:39:05 <networkstatic> is this a standing meeting? 00:39:07 <networkstatic> weekly 00:39:18 <networkstatic> Id like to add it to the list of meetings 00:39:35 <networkstatic> if its standing 00:40:06 <paulz> Yes... we've been struggling with finding a time, but I think this will be it... many of us are on the US West Coast, but Nan is in China (so early in the morning for him), and of course, it's a worldwide project, so we want to find a good time. 00:40:09 <paulz> I think we 00:40:33 <paulz> are OK with this time... Andrew, I'll add you to the meeting invite that I send out. 00:40:44 <mlemay> Paul: diddo for me plz 00:40:55 <paulz> You got it, Mathieu! 00:40:59 <networkstatic> would you mind adding bsalisbu@redhat.com pls. 00:41:04 <NZHOU> Thank you Paul 00:41:13 <paulz> OK, sounds like once I make some edits, we're OK with submitting. Agreed? 00:41:23 <mlemay> +1 00:41:33 <gjs_cisco> agreed 00:41:34 <NZHOU> yeah 00:41:40 <networkstatic> quick note 00:41:47 <networkstatic> if u guys want a project to pilot anything 00:41:52 <networkstatic> please feel free to use ovsdb 00:41:57 <paulz> #agreed Paul will make edits to proposal and submit to OC 00:42:17 <networkstatic> its wide open to the project if you need a place to try new things etc 00:42:28 <mlemay> networkstatic: Actually would love to get the edits on your blog I ripped off ;) 00:42:47 <networkstatic> hahaha, u got it! 00:43:01 <paulz> OK, thanks! I know some folks are also asking for MD-SAL, but since that is more mature, maybe the ovsdb is a better place to start... 00:43:19 <networkstatic> whatever works for u guys 00:43:22 <akim> paulz, sounds good 00:43:29 <networkstatic> just wanted to make sure the offer is there 00:43:48 <paulz> Thanks! Any other thoughts on the proposal right now? 00:44:19 <mlemay> networkstatic: Actually I've been working on proper site-deploy stuff along with the docs repo I prototyped to get API synchronicity using WADLs maybe I could touch base offline? 00:44:34 <mlemay> paulz: Will you be submitting to the next TSC? 00:45:17 <networkstatic> for sure, sounds good, also anytime u guys want to spread the word on the Monday TWS call just ping and we will get u on the agenda 00:45:26 <networkstatic> or add yourself to the TWS agenda in the wiki :) 00:45:36 <paulz> OK, that sounds good! 00:46:04 <paulz> And Mathieu, yeah, let 00:46:10 <paulz> s talk offline 00:46:37 <mlemay> paulz: ok works for me get in touch anytime I'm almost always on IRC 00:46:55 <paulz> Great! 00:47:02 <paulz> #topic Efforts around the Hackfest 3/27-3/28 in Napa, CA 00:47:26 <networkstatic> thanks guys, night! 00:47:29 <paulz> Rob added this topic... I actually don't have any details, and Rob isn't with us... anyone have any info on how this is a doc thing? 00:47:39 <paulz> Bye, Andrew! 00:47:48 <akim> im still here :) 00:47:59 <networkstatic> lol 00:48:05 <NZHOU> :) 00:48:13 <paulz> Sorry, wrong one! 00:48:19 <networkstatic> lol 00:48:45 <networkstatic> hey akim , u online for another few minuts? 00:48:53 <networkstatic> can u check git clone git://openvswitch.org/openvswitch 00:49:01 <networkstatic> Im getting a connection refused 00:49:04 <paulz> OK, sounds like I'll follow up with Rob on the Hackfest 00:49:17 <paulz> #action Paul to follow up with Rob on what's up with the Hackfest 00:49:18 <akim> sure 00:49:25 <networkstatic> remote Hackfest would be easy too 00:49:29 <networkstatic> er docfest 00:49:36 <networkstatic> I love the book opentack does 00:49:43 <networkstatic> they are a machine 00:49:50 <akim> networkstatic, yep, getting connection refused as well 00:49:55 <networkstatic> crap 00:49:57 <networkstatic> thanks sir 00:50:03 <akim> np 00:50:21 <networkstatic> can we make our wiki look exactly like OpenStacks? 00:50:27 <networkstatic> i hate our wiki 00:50:33 <networkstatic> makes me depressed 00:50:36 <networkstatic> :) 00:50:48 <networkstatic> openstackers are so fancy 00:50:54 <paulz> Our wiki needs a lot of work, for sure... it's a bit chaotic. Part of the project plan! 00:51:08 <networkstatic> awesome, we are lucky to have u guys 00:51:20 <networkstatic> Paul im brent btw sir, nice to meet, heard great things about u 00:51:49 <networkstatic> I will get some of the OVSDBplugin guys in to fill up the room some more 00:51:49 <paulz> Hi Brent, thanks for joining us! This is a nice segue into one of our last topics of the day... 00:52:11 <paulz> #topic Recruiting Additional Volunteers 00:52:22 <networkstatic> omg, im so sorry, i thought we were done 00:52:30 <akim> haha 00:52:30 <paulz> No worries... getting close! 00:52:49 <networkstatic> gawd, im an idiot, shutting up now 00:53:18 <mlemay> lol 00:53:31 <paulz> We have 3 new folks today... great!! I would guess that once we have an "official" project, we'll find a few more folks as well... I suggest we table this one until the proposal is submitted... 00:54:33 <paulz> Once we are up and rolling with Mathieu's workflow and we're diving into the content, we'll definitely need a few more warm bodies! 00:55:04 <mlemay> perfect... workes for me 00:55:08 <mlemay> *works 00:55:19 <mlemay> anything to do during the hackfest 00:55:23 <gjs_cisco> I have some bandwidth over the next couple of weeks, so if anyone needs help with anything…. 00:55:32 <mlemay> (I might have to be involved with Jan on MD-SAL stuff which is why I am asking) 00:56:24 <paulz> Rob put up the stuff on the Hackfest... not sure exactly what he had in mind... 00:56:44 <mlemay> ok 00:56:53 <paulz> I'll follow up with him directly. 00:57:46 <mlemay> sounds good.. let me know when we have a "repo" in the meantime I can let you know as I evolve from our internal one 00:57:55 <paulz> OK, great!! 00:58:07 <paulz> One more topic.... 00:58:17 <paulz> #topic Any other topics? 00:58:25 <paulz> OK, the floor is open! 00:59:18 <paulz> *crickets* 00:59:30 <mlemay> haha no 00:59:33 <mlemay> actually 00:59:34 <mlemay> yes 00:59:41 <mlemay> any additional wish lish 01:00:00 <akim> im good 01:00:39 <paulz> For me, I'd like to have a deeper understanding of what you set up before I start adding stuff to it... 01:00:46 <mlemay> paulz: ok 01:01:25 <NZHOU> i am ok 01:02:10 <mlemay> paulz: any place on wiki where I can put the info? 01:02:53 <paulz> For the tool description, yes! Well... kind of... we have our group page here 01:02:54 <paulz> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Documentation_Group 01:03:14 <paulz> If you put a subpage on that, maybe that would be a good place for the description? 01:03:52 <mlemay> ok 01:03:53 <paulz> If there's a better home, we can always move it later! 01:04:23 <mlemay> I'll start from there 01:04:31 <paulz> Great. 01:05:26 <paulz> Alright, sounds like we're wrapping up then... I'll clean up and submit the proposal, Mathieu will start documenting his tools setup, we'll get info from Rob on the Hackfest, and we'll be here again next week if not sooner! 01:05:53 <paulz> Mathieu, I'll follow up with you outside of this meeting too 01:07:36 <mlemay> perfect anytime 01:08:04 <paulz> Thanks, everyone... great to have some excellent contributors here!! 01:08:22 <mlemay> Thanks all.. don't hesitate to get in touch with me 01:09:04 <paulz> Will do! 01:09:08 <paulz> #endmeeting