15:08:55 #startmeeting docs 15:08:55 Meeting started Wed Mar 25 15:08:55 2015 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 15:08:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:08:55 The meeting name has been set to 'docs' 15:09:05 #topic upcoming deadlines 15:09:21 #info M4 is quickly coming up (4/16) and we need complete drafts by then 15:11:31 #info we should just be aware of that and try to make sure we can do the best 15:11:35 #topic quick start guide 15:12:22 #info Manny note sthat Shahida asked last time about whether we should have a quick start guide or not 15:12:40 #info colindixon says that in his mind the installation guide is the quick start guide 15:16:42 #link https://www.opendaylight.org/sites/opendaylight/files/bk-install-guide-20141002.pdf colindixon notes that for most projects the installation guide will look like table 1.1 on page 8 of the Helium installation guide 15:17:45 Do we need a getting started folder to put the GSG and the security considerations in? Who can create that folder? I checked in the security doc in the installation folder but abandoned it thinking it should go into the GSG folder. 15:18:27 Moi: I can help 15:18:45 okay, great! Thanks, Colin. 15:19:17 #action colindixon to work with Moi to get the directory strucgture fo the installation/qsg stuff to provide security considerations 15:23:08 #info shahida asks should we rename it to “Getting Started” or “Quick Start Guide” instead of “Installation Guide” 15:23:20 #info Manny says it makes more sense to him to call it “Getting Started” 15:23:29 #info Moi also chimes in for that 15:23:44 #action colindixon to change the name to getting started 15:24:06 #action Moi and Shahida to check in their content once it’s renamed 15:25:47 #info as part of the getting started docuemnt, we probalby want to show the basics of how to get the DLUX UI up, how to connectto mininet, and maybe even how to make a REST(CONF) call 15:26:37 #action Shahida to e-mail Manny to ask him to add those to the tracking doc 15:27:35 #topic projects doing their docs 15:28:01 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/documentation/2015-March/000401.html only 12 of 44 projects have given us docs of any kind 15:28:25 #info somebody on the docs team has now (as of last night) reviewed or merged every patch we’ve gotten so far 15:28:37 #info Moi asks what we do if they don’t do it 15:29:13 #info there are a few options: (i) yell at them, (ii) just ship without docs for them, or (iii) ask the TSC to drop them from the release 15:30:56 #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/weekly_lithium_irc_sync/opendaylight-meeting-weekly_lithium_irc_sync.2015-03-25-14.30.html colindixon raised the issue of nobody giving us docs on the weekly sync call 15:31:31 #topic user guide 15:32:22 #info Manny reached out to ttkacik about user guide content 15:32:37 #info Manny hasn’t heard back from him at all 15:35:01 #info the core question is what non-project-specific user information needs to be done 15:36:01 #info colindixon asks if we actually need any detailed insturctions for the user guide or if that is almost all going to be in the Getting Started Guide 15:36:21 #info Moi says we need some front-matter, e.g., an introduction to bind things together 15:38:28 #info colindixon isn’t sure that we actually need anything beyond the introduction and references, he suspects not, at least for the user guide 15:42:19 #link https://www.opendaylight.org/sites/opendaylight/files/User-Guide-Helium-SR2.pdf Divya points out that the current user guide is purely project-oriented 15:43:08 #info Divya asks if we should have some high-level cross-project documentation/integration isseus 15:43:37 #topic going back to the getting started guide 15:43:57 #link http://www.opendaylight.org/resources/getting-started-guide Shahida points out that we should figure out how to merge our content with this page 15:44:36 #info colindixon notes that we should probably move sections 1-4 from the Helium user guide to the gettings started guide 15:45:38 #action colindixon or Manny to e-mail the release list to ask (1) if there is non-project-specific content other than what we’re planning that needs to be developed and (2) if there are cross-project documentation sections that we should be aware of 15:49:57 #topic what content are we migrating and editing from Helium to Lithium 15:50:25 #info colindixon says in his mind it’s sections 1-4 of the user guide and the installation guide (which as of now) we’re talking about merging and making the getting started guide 15:52:49 colindixon, I sent you an openstack.adoc file - for some reason pushing it to Gerrit wasn't working 15:52:52 (maybe I'm doing it wrong) 15:53:04 dneary: I’ll look at it in a second 15:53:06 I'm in a Real Life meeting here, couldn't attend today 15:53:11 #topic developer guide front matter 15:53:28 It's a pure formatting swap, no new content 15:53:49 #info right now the front matter is really just about git and gerrit, which is more about contributing to opendaylight than developing on top of opendayligh 15:54:01 #info we might want to leave the part about downloading the code 15:54:25 #info Moi says we probably want to add sections about how to develop apps on top of OpenDaylight 15:54:51 #info one section is really about building an MD-SAL app for ODL in Java (there are wiki pages about this) 15:55:10 #action colindixon to find the Ed’s getting started archetype wiki pages so we can maybe just use that 15:55:33 #info the other major part would be developing using REST/RESTCONF and I’m not sure where to go steal that from 15:55:48 #action colindixon to e-mail manny to add those two sections to the task list doc 15:57:26 #topic next meeting 15:57:32 #info we should go over the task list next time 15:57:35 #endmeeting