16:13:18 #startmeeting docs 16:13:18 Meeting started Wed Nov 4 16:13:18 2015 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 16:13:18 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:13:18 The meeting name has been set to 'docs' 16:13:24 #topic maling list pages 16:13:29 #link https://wikistg.opendaylight.org/view/Main_Page/mailinglists 16:13:52 #info colindixon feels like we should really only have one -users list and it should be opendaylight-users 16:14:13 #info that's because users aren't given enought information to correctly route inquiries 16:14:37 #info -announce and security-announce are really good ones to be there 16:16:14 #info for dev lists, we need some rule as to what goes there and what doesn't 16:17:01 #info bugs should probably be removed from that list, it's machine only for sending and not clear that anyone actually wants to subscribe to it 16:17:35 #info controller-dev and dev are in-effect cross-project lists, odl-dev is an alias for dev 16:18:16 #info I like the grouping of lists in project-management, I'm not sure l like the title 16:20:54 #info should we add the security list (private for reporting things) here? 16:24:23 #info colindixon says he's not sure what we should do about our -dev lists, they servie two purposes: internal project collaboration/notification and handling development-oriented queires 16:25:11 #info they do a pretty poor job of the latter, e.g., I'm not even sure when I should sending things to controller-dev, mdsal-dev, netconf-dev, or yangtools-dev all of the time 16:26:48 #topic main page items 16:26:59 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/GettingStarted:Pulling,_Hacking,_and_Pushing_All_the_Code_from_the_CLI that's the closest to a getting the code page 16:29:52 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/GettingStarted:Development_Environment_Setup this should maybe be folding into that page (and both renamed?) 16:34:54 #info odl-casey asks what we should do for making a new Main page which people can look at before it's updated 16:35:16 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Main_Page_Candidate this was the one Ed had done 16:35:31 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/User:Dneary/Main_page this is the one Dave Neary had done 16:36:01 colindixon, FYI, that's Casey's content, copied into my space 16:36:18 colindixon, If you look in the history, you can see what I had before 16:36:29 Which looks a lot like the current front page :-) 16:36:50 :-) 16:36:52 https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=main+page&fulltext=Search 16:38:16 colindixon, I agree with your -users appraisal 16:38:39 I also think that page naming is important, and that wiki.opendaylight.org/Mailing_lists is a better page name 16:38:53 +1 16:39:09 * dneary may be missing a call and saying things that have already been said in the meeting 16:41:23 dneary: to some extent yes, but in others cases 16:42:55 #topic subpages not working the staging repo 16:43:03 #info colindixon says the subpages plugin isn't enable 16:43:58 #info for what it's worth dneary and colindixon feel like Mailing lists should likely be it's own top-level page 16:56:00 #info odl-casey asks about moving projects to subpages, colindixon says he thinks that this is just a matter of asking projects if they'll do it (or let you do them for it) 16:56:08 #topic project categorization 16:58:55 #info colindixon says he thinks it's fine to c as long as (a) we get the categories right, (b) we let projects pick what categories they're listed in (within reason) 16:59:27 #info colindixon thinks about 5 categories: kernel, southbound plugins, services, applications, and metaprojects 17:00:26 #info colindixon says basically we just need to formally pick names for those categories, then encourages projects to add those categories to their main pages 17:01:17 #action colindixon to bring this up at the TSC tomorrow along with the new wiki main page 17:02:53 #endmeeting