19:02:20 #startmeeting docs 19:02:20 Meeting started Tue Sep 6 19:02:20 2016 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 19:02:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:02:20 The meeting name has been set to 'docs' 19:02:26 #topic agenda bashing 19:03:04 #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-docs/2016/docs/opendaylight-docs-docs.2016-08-30-19.05.html last week's meeting minutes 19:03:34 #info colindixon is in the process of e-mail projects which have no or no new documentation 19:03:54 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d-Qay-9IAy5OIECPGHj-Xtw24ey6UEzIEk9RSJuD5uo/edit#gid=22029863 logging that in the patch coments section of "MISSING" patches here 19:04:15 #action colindixon to note in the docs that read the docs doesn't clean the build environment between runs, which can cause really weird behavior 19:04:26 #actionphrobb and zxiiro to reach out to read the docs to see if we can solve this problem with a modest amount of money (colindixon notes that it is taking 243 seconds with most stuff migrated, it's unlikely to hit the 15 minute limit without javadoc) 19:04:32 #action colindixon to find an externminate bad words from the docs, e.g., references to beryllium and lithium as though they are this version 19:04:50 #action colindixon and/or zxiiro to look into why searching for ide returns nothing, colindixon notes that searches for 3 characters or less seem to only return javadoc 19:04:59 #undo 19:04:59 Removing item from minutes: 19:05:07 #action colindixon and/or zxiiro to look into why searching for ide returns nothing, colindixon notes that searches for 3 characters or less seem to only return javadoc 19:05:21 if you search for NetIDE: http://docs.opendaylight.org/en/stable-boron/search.html?q=netide&check_keywords=yes&area=default 19:05:35 you find the developer guide, but not the user guide 19:06:34 but this exists: http://docs.opendaylight.org/en/stable-boron/user-guide/netide-user-guide.html 19:07:34 it also turns out that not all three-letter seraches are bad, e.g., VPN: http://docs.opendaylight.org/en/stable-boron/search.html?q=vpn 19:07:45 #info search in sphinx appears to be somewhat broken 19:09:35 #action colindixon to help lisa caywood hunt people down and get the openstack docs updated 19:10:43 #topic longer readthedocs times 19:11:20 #info how long do we expect readthedocs runs to take with sphinx javadoc enabled? do we want other domains? 19:11:50 #info zxiiro says that it would take hours, he'd recommend figuring something else out? 19:13:38 #Info phrobb says they seem to be accommodating, colindixon and zxiiro say it will take autorelease style times, so 5-6 horus and maybe longer 19:14:15 #info colindixon notes that we're still at 4-5 minutes with pretty much everything migrated 19:15:19 #info three options: (1) do nothing, (2) ask them to run things that take many, many hours, (3) pre-builld javadoc on our side 19:18:06 #info zxiiro says that he's leaning toward (3), even if only because it will ensure less lag between patches being merged and showing up 19:19:47 #topic Beau on the "beginner's guide" 19:20:01 #Info this is as compared to getting started, which basically gets it installed, and runnig, but doing nothing 19:20:24 #info this would be the "how do you actually do something useful with your network and OpenDaylight" 19:21:01 #info Beau would like to lean on more knowledgeably OpenDaylight people to help him understand and document them 19:23:33 #info colindixon says that the best way to do that, would be to pick one scenario at a time and then finding the right people 19:23:46 #info beau says that NETCONF device management would be the first thing he'd like to do 19:26:15 #info CaseyODL was trying to gather scenarios like this at some point as well 19:26:59 #action CaseyODL, colindixon, and beau to compare notes on what tutorials we're looking for and what we have 19:33:33 #topic boron docs status 19:33:34 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d-Qay-9IAy5OIECPGHj-Xtw24ey6UEzIEk9RSJuD5uo/edit#gid=22029863 19:34:14 #info we have some projects (~12) with no or no new documentation 19:34:26 #info we have 4 patches, 2 waiting for a +1 and 2 waiting for updates 19:34:42 #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/(topic:adoc2rst+OR+topic:adoc2rst-user)+status:open migration to rst 19:34:58 #info waiting for +1s from SNBI and OpenFlow plugin 19:35:10 #info SDNi is blcoked on an in-flight asciidoc patch (see above) 19:38:56 #topic missing features in reST 19:39:19 #link cross-refernecing in reST: http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/rest.html#internal-links 19:39:54 #link http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html#ref-role 19:42:01 #link https://sourceforge.net/p/numfig/wiki/Home/ this would allow for figure numbers 19:43:34 #info inline markup can't be nested, this is just true 19:43:35 #link http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/rest.html#inline-markup see here 19:44:43 #action colindixon and/or zxiiro to file a bug and/or look into nested directives 19:49:49 #action colindixon and/or zxiiro to look into a YANG pygment 19:53:56 #endmeeting