20:08:18 <regXboi> #startmeeting policy status 20:08:18 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu May 29 20:08:18 2014 UTC. The chair is regXboi. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 20:08:18 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:08:18 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'policy_status' 20:08:24 <regXboi> #chair alagalah 20:08:24 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: alagalah regXboi 20:08:29 <regXboi> #topic requirements 20:08:40 <regXboi> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Group_Policy:Sub-Groups:REQUIREMENTS#Requirements_Sub-Group 20:08:57 <regXboi> #chair tbachman 20:08:57 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: alagalah regXboi tbachman 20:09:18 <regXboi> #info requirements meeting to be set up 20:09:29 <regXboi> #action dvokinista to set up requirements meetings 20:10:43 <regXboi> #info for those joining, the hangout is coming 20:10:50 <regXboi> #link https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/noironetworks.com/odl-gbp-status 20:12:08 <regXboi> #topic functional spec 20:12:12 <Youcef> functional spec URL? 20:13:14 <Youcef> Is it this one: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Group_Policy:Architecture/Policy_Model? 20:13:28 <dconde> that'is right youcef 20:13:32 <Youcef> thanks! 20:13:41 <regXboi> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Group_Policy:Architecture/Policy_Model 20:13:54 <dconde> also look at https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Group_Policy:Architecture 20:13:57 <tbachman> #info folks need to read the functional spec and comment, as implementation is under way 20:14:17 <Youcef> I'm half way through it :) 20:14:36 <tbachman> #info The Architecture page has a link to the Policy Model page 20:14:55 <tbachman> Youcef: :) 20:17:15 <regXboi> #info the main wiki page now has a subpages section 20:19:13 <tbachman> #info readams is working on renderer-commons framework 20:19:40 <regXboi> #question when do we think we'll be able to fill in the policy and status repository? 20:19:47 <tbachman> #info Trying to get to a point where a renderer can map a parir of endpoints into endpoint groups 20:20:43 <regXboi> #question what is the use case for the demo renderer? 20:20:55 <tbachman> #info demo-renderer will demonstrate that the basic framework “works" 20:21:08 <regXboi> #question what does that mean specifically 20:21:17 <regXboi> #info likely a simple overlay 20:22:20 <regXboi> #info readams says anybody who wants to take a swing at it can feel free 20:22:47 <regXboi> #info readams thinks that will be more easily filled in as we understand what the renderers expect 20:27:41 <Bhushan_> checking if I'm still connected 20:27:57 <Youcef> Bhushan_: yep you are 20:28:29 <tbachman> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/groupbasedpolicy-dev/2014-May/000193.html <— dlenrow mentioning the renderer group 20:28:30 <Bhushan_> saw no activity so was worried. I'd lost internet connectivity for a brief time earlier 20:30:32 <tbachman> #info regXboi recalls that dvorkinista made a statement that portions of the model are optional 20:31:03 <tbachman> #info If that is true, regXboi looked at the current YANG in the repo, but nothing is tagged as a yang feature, which would indicate that it was optiona 20:31:32 <tbachman> #info readams notes that entire pieces of the model aren’t necesarrily optional, but that the renderer may not be able to render parts of the model 20:31:45 <tbachman> #info which would result in an exception, then having retries 20:32:14 <tbachman> #info resulting in parts of the model not being required to fulfil the policy requirement 20:32:40 <tbachman> #info dvorkinista says that there are things that require change of placement, and stuff that does not. 20:32:57 <tbachman> #info If there are endpoints that can’t be satisified, then the endpoint must be moved somewhere else 20:33:06 <tbachman> #info because we can’t move workloads 20:35:09 <tbachman> #info We may want the option to have a way of expressing whether the policy has to be “all-or-nothing” 20:36:23 <regXboi> ok - sort of back 20:36:25 <tbachman> #info dvorkinista feels that this can fall on the renderer. The renderer is responsible for achieving the desired state. 20:38:07 <regXboi> #info sanjay asks if the renderer architecture been decided on? 20:38:41 <tbachman> #info readams says that we’re creating a demo-renderer 20:38:43 <regXboi> #info readams says that demo will be based on *something* 20:40:32 <regXboi> #info regXboi points out that *something* is a bit nebulous 20:40:52 <regXboi> #info and that it should be nailed down by the to-be reconstituted renderer meetings 20:41:03 <regXboi> #agreed renderer meetings will be restarted 20:42:31 <regXboi> #endmeeting