15:10:48 #startmeeting Robot Happy Hour 15:10:48 Meeting started Wed Apr 29 15:10:48 2015 UTC. The chair is catohornet. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 15:10:48 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:10:48 The meeting name has been set to 'robot_happy_hour' 15:12:04 Revisiting IDEs, I'm curious if anyone has had a chance to try a different one since our conversation? 15:13:13 I've kept using pycharm/intellibot... But the "jump to definition" feature as stopped working. 15:14:01 What other IDEs are there besides intellibot, eclipse, ride? 15:16:12 There aren't others that I'm aware of. 15:16:58 I think there may be one other, but I can't remember the name. I think Jamo is using it. 15:18:08 I had a question about keyword naming conventions. 15:18:40 I think typically robot uses Title Case keywords, right? 15:19:33 What's the best way to handle a call to a Python function. 15:20:49 The python function names need to be pep-8 compliant. 15:21:30 Does robot allow underscores in keywords? 15:22:53 I believe so 15:24:25 It uses the name you use as the class name when creating the class in python 15:25:29 OK, great, so there's no conflict there between the pep-8 and what robot supports. 15:27:08 jamoluhrsen: Are you using intellibot for robot, or something else? 15:27:48 intellij is my IDE. 15:28:06 what is intellibot? a plugin? I forget the name of my plugin… 15:28:58 it is. 15:29:53 OK, I could only think of 3 robot IDEs, I think there's a fourth... 15:30:23 intellij/intellibot, eclipse, ride, & ? 15:30:44 https://robotframework.googlecode.com/hg/doc/python/PythonTutorial.html#writing-test-libraries 15:32:03 I missed the context here. I just logged in. my plugin is *not* called "intellibot" AFAIK. 15:32:11 just called "robot plugin" from jivesoft. 15:33:10 catohornet: thanks! 15:34:21 jamoluhrsen: OK, yeah, I know that plugin - that must have been what I was thinking of. 15:35:48 jamoluhrsen: There's a thread about robot IDEs in the robot happy hour. That was the context. 15:36:15 gotcha. I've been super happy with intellij after switching from RIDE. just my 2c 15:38:24 Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it's younger sibling pycharm, except the 'jump to definition' feature seems to be somewhat flaky. 15:46:14 jamolursen: Good to know 15:48:42 RE: keywords: I asked if you could use underscores. The answer I got was yes however keywords with spaces: my_kw is same as `my kw` 15:51:14 catohornet, that's right, and probably why it's a good reason for python functions that we write to be used in robot suites to use under_scores and not CamelCase 15:51:45 just so we can keep with the whole "human readable" part of robot framework. 15:58:38 I agree! 16:05:11 Question: To make this hour more useful and full of useful information is there anything anyone would like to see discussed next week? 16:05:44 I think it is already useful. I hope you all experience the same. 16:07:14 Hmmm 16:07:36 There was a topic I was thinking about, but I can recall it now. 16:08:25 I can send it to you when I remember :/ 16:09:41 Cool 16:10:47 Yes please send your topics to me. I can provide any background information I have or can gather for our conversation. 16:11:35 carolsand@gmail.com 16:11:53 thanks! 16:14:21 Thanks again everyone for your interest and attendance. See you next week. 16:14:42 #endmeeting