16:02:59 <tbachman> #startmeeting md_sal_hackers 16:02:59 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Mon Nov 10 16:02:59 2014 UTC. The chair is tbachman. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 16:02:59 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:59 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'md_sal_hackers' 16:03:13 <tbachman> #chair edwarnicke_ 16:03:13 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: edwarnicke_ tbachman 16:03:24 * tbachman wonders where colindixon has gone to :( 16:04:41 <tbachman> #topic agenda 16:06:01 <tbachman> anyone else for chair? 16:07:27 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if anyone’s reviewd the notifications API from ttkacik and rovarga 16:07:42 <tbachman> #info rovarga says there have been a few comments 16:08:14 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if it makes sense to do anything with the documentation review 16:08:21 <tbachman> #topic Documentation review 16:09:07 <tbachman> #chair alagalah 16:09:07 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: alagalah edwarnicke_ tbachman 16:12:14 * tbachman is lookoing for links here 16:13:49 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:MD-SAL_Document_Review:MD_SAL Link describing MD-SAL documentation review 16:14:08 * tbachman wonders if we can standardize on either “-“ or “_” for MD-SAL, but not both :P 16:15:15 <tbachman> #info ttkacik reviews the updates he’s provided on the MD-SAL documentation (see recording) 16:17:12 <alagalah> #info jmedved to remove specifics from the Architecture overview and reference specifics in MD-SAL 16:17:19 <tbachman> alagalah: thx! 16:18:10 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if the MD-SAL documentation satisfies alagalah’s criteria for documentation 16:18:55 <tbachman> #info alagalah says it’s a fantastic start, but he needs to go through it in detail, to make sure it provides the background context that allows folks to approach the examples, etc. 16:19:39 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:Explained MD-SAL explained wiki page created by ttkacik 16:20:39 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks the rest of the participants on the call to review the documentation so we can comment it on next week’s call (and provide feedback using the “Discussion” tab on the wiki) 16:21:16 <tbachman> #agreed participants on the call to review the documentation so we can comment it on next week’s call (and provide feedback using the “Discussion” tab on the wiki) 16:22:08 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says that relationship between YANG tools and the MD-SAL needs to be explained, and ttkacik is probably the best person to do that 16:22:31 <tbachman> #action ttkacik to put this as a placeholder in the MD-SAL arch page 16:24:11 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:MD-SAL_Document_Review:Config_SubSystem Wiki page documenting the config subsystem 16:25:09 <tbachman> #info jmedved says that the activity diagram would be really helpful 16:25:46 <tbachman> #action rovarga to provide the activity diagram for the config subsystem 16:26:24 <tbachman> rovarga: do you know maros’s nick? 16:27:06 <alagalah> #action rovarga to get Maros to put in Education/tuturial section for config subsystem 16:27:14 <alagalah> #action rovarga to get Maros on IRC :) 16:28:14 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:MD-SAL_Document_Review:Architecture MD-SAL documentation architecture wiki page 16:29:27 <tbachman> #info jmedved added background on the decisions that are used in the architecture 16:29:58 <tbachman> #info the architecture needs to be expanded to include clustering or other components (i.e. living wiki page to be augmented by others) 16:31:12 <tbachman> #info The controller is both a platform and an SDN Application Development environment 16:34:16 <tbachman> #info alagalah says he sees the Architecture page as the “landing page”, and clustering being something that’s linked off of it 16:34:51 <tbachman> #info moiz says we should mention something about clustering on the Architecture page 16:36:58 <tbachman> #info alagalah asks if we should indicate that this page is in reference to the Helium release? 16:37:13 <tbachman> #info jmedved says yes, this should probably indicate that it’s covering the Helium and Lithium architecture 16:37:51 <tbachman> #action moizer to write up a section on clustering and add it to the architecture wiki page 16:38:28 <tbachman> #action ttkacik to add a parts on YANG Tools to the architecture wiki page 16:38:40 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if there’s anything else that’s needed in the architecture page 16:39:26 <tbachman> #info colindixon says we should summarrize that the MD-SAL is: 1) RPC, 2) Notifications, and 3) a Data Store 16:40:36 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke_ agrees, and says we’ve made the mistake in the past of introducing folks to all the more helpful and complex features of the MD-SAL before understanding the simpler aspects first 16:42:00 <tbachman> #info alagalah says he’d like to understand how the config subsystem, MD-SAL, OSGI, and Karaf all relate to each other 16:42:18 <tbachman> #info jmedved agrees 16:43:14 <tbachman> #action colindixon to write the 10k ft view of the config subsystem 16:44:04 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke_ offers his help to colindixon if he has any q’s 16:45:34 <tbachman> #info rovarga says that edwarnicke_ is probably the only person who understands the relationship between the config subsystem and the karaf runtime 16:46:17 <tbachman> #action edwarnicke_ to write up the interaction between the config subsystem and karaf 16:47:11 <alagalah> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:MD-SAL_Document_Review:KARAF_OSGI 16:50:59 <tbachman> #action alagalah to try writing up the karaf and OSGI interaction 16:53:14 <tbachman> #info maros requests feedback on the config subsystem wiki page 16:54:41 <tbachman> #info alagalah says that the education/tutorial section was removed 16:54:51 <tbachman> #info maros says he took it out by accident 16:55:02 <tbachman> #info jmedved requests to make the figures smaller in the wiki 16:55:29 <tbachman> time check: 5 minutes 16:56:16 <tbachman> #info uchau asks when we expect this to be done 16:56:45 <tbachman> #info maros says he thinks he can get the first version done in a couple of days, and will send an email when it’s ready 16:58:09 <tbachman> #info jmedved says the one big one we don’t have covered is the RESTCONF/NETCONF section 16:58:20 <tbachman> #info alagalah says he wasn’t sure there was agreement that this did have it’s own section 16:58:45 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says he’d go with it as a subsection, since it is the northbound of the controller 16:59:24 <tbachman> #action josef will provide the RESTCONF documentation 17:00:49 * tbachman notes that edwarnicke_ has quite the vocabulary ;) 17:02:06 <tbachman> #action team to identify non-Slovakian speaker to review the docs (non-English speaking reviewers) 17:02:09 <tbachman> #endmeeting