16:00:23 <tbachman> #startmeeting md_sal_hackers 16:00:23 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Mon Nov 24 16:00:23 2014 UTC. The chair is tbachman. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 16:00:23 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:23 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'md_sal_hackers' 16:00:33 <tbachman> #topic agenda 16:06:44 <tbachman> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/md_sal_hackers_meeting/opendaylight-meeting-md_sal_hackers_meeting.2014-10-13-15.08.html minutes from previous week 16:07:32 <tbachman> #topic Action Items from last week 16:07:42 <tbachman> #info alagalah to set up meeting with Devin, Tom, John Burns, Maros, and whoever wants to join, to walk through the links in the "how tos", with a consistent template style structure, incorporating alagalah's recommendations + other's input: done 16:07:58 <tbachman> #chair jmedved 16:07:58 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: jmedved tbachman 16:08:01 <tbachman> #chair alagalah 16:08:01 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: alagalah jmedved tbachman 16:08:05 <alagalah> tbachman: "DONE" is a generous description 16:08:14 <tbachman> alagalah: you set up the meeting ;) 16:08:29 <alagalah> tbachman: LOL technically jmedved did but... :) 16:08:55 <tbachman> alagalah: best of both worlds — none of the work and all the credit ;) 16:08:56 <tbachman> lol 16:12:06 <tbachman> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/md_sal_hackers/opendaylight-meeting-md_sal_hackers.2014-11-17-16.00.html correct link to last week’s meeting 16:12:56 <tbachman> #topic action items (revisited) 16:13:36 <tbachman> #action colindixon to update arch wiki page by the end of the day 16:13:55 <tbachman> #action alagalah, jmedved, john, and rovarga to go through rovarga’s proposal step-by-step (continued from last week) 16:14:21 <tbachman> #info alagalah tosend email to rovarga to initiate going through the proposal step-by-step:DONE 16:17:07 <tbachman> #link https://github.com/alagalah/odl-tutorial-toaster alagalah’s github account that’s tracking proposed documentation of pom architecture, etc. 16:17:57 <tbachman> #info jmedved says we’re achieving 2 things with one activity: correct directory and pom structure, and a tutorial for new projects to follow. 16:18:23 <alagalah> #link origin https://github.com/alagalah/odl-tutorial-toaster.git (fetch) --- tutorial link WIP 16:19:08 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke says it would be even better if we can tie the tutorial to a maven generated site 16:19:22 <alagalah> ttkacik: ack 16:19:27 <alagalah> edwarnicke: ack 16:19:29 <tbachman> #info ttkacik recommends moving all documentation to a maven site, since this is a Lithium release plan requirement 16:19:43 <alagalah> The audio is particularly heinous today 16:20:00 * tbachman thinks jmedved VOIP is not jitter-free :) 16:20:21 <tbachman> #undo 16:20:21 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2845fd0> 16:20:58 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says that the Lithium release plan requires things to be in asciidoc format, and recommends moving all documentation to a maven site for all offset 0 projects 16:21:56 <tbachman> #info jmedved to email invites for working on this example: DONE 16:22:50 <tbachman> jmedved: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Meetings 16:23:17 <tbachman> #action colindixon to bring up removing hydrogen artifacts from main download page (continued from last week) 16:25:28 <tbachman> #info for the project proposal, alagalah asks if we want this to be a separate project, or if it should live in documentation 16:26:28 <tbachman> #info colindixon says ODL forge may help here 16:26:48 <tbachman> #info ttkacik suggests having this as part of the release, as once you release, you’d have all the tutorials attached to the release 16:27:17 <tbachman> #info colindixon says it would be good to bring up how to have things tied to the release but not part of it 16:27:47 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke asks what offset we’d want it to be in 16:28:05 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says that since it’s part of the controller, it’s at least offset 1 16:28:38 <ttkacik> tbachman: should read since it uses controller 16:28:46 <tbachman> ttkacik: thx! 16:28:47 <tbachman> #undo 16:28:47 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x24815d0> 16:29:00 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says that since it usese the controller, it’s at least offset 1 16:29:10 * tbachman is glad that folks are reading and checking his work ;) 16:30:35 <tbachman> #info colindixon says that without clear ownership of the cross-project efforts, they turn into dumping grounds 16:31:40 <tbachman> #info alagalah says that for the scope for the project proposal, he can list the things he wants to document over time, and would reach out to contacts who would provide that input. 16:35:31 <tbachman> #action alagalah to come up with a project proposal for a “documentation and tutorial for new projects” project 16:35:58 <tbachman> #info jmedved to include uchau in the 7am PST calls: DONE 16:36:14 <tbachman> next topic? 16:39:26 <tbachman> #topic release plan for M1 16:40:50 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says they’ve started looking into automation of the release process 16:41:45 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says the controller project is using bugzilla to help with release planning 16:42:19 <tbachman> #info ttkacik every enhancement is prefixed with a milestone in bugzilla 16:44:25 <tbachman> #info this allows bugzilla to provide structured information about the individual milestones 16:44:54 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says there are overarching themes that aren’t tied to milestones, but are part of the overall release. These get tied to topics 16:47:51 <tbachman> #info There is an issues-maven plugin which can create release notes, link it to the bugs and issues that are fixed, based on the data exported by bugzilla 16:48:11 <tbachman> #info The same plugin can be used to export the release plan 16:51:52 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke asks when we can get to the point where we can publish a maven site 16:54:03 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says to fully replace the release plan wiki pages, it will be a few months effort 16:55:33 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke asks what can we do to document this style of approach so that projects could adopt it 16:55:52 <tbachman> #info ttkacik says he’d need help from a native english speaker to help 16:56:24 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke to help with the effort 16:56:53 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke asks if this would be a good thing to present on the TWS 16:58:29 <tbachman> #action ttkacik to send an email with a concrete/specific example of how bugzilla can be set up to use for automation of release planning and tracking 17:03:36 <tbachman> #info jmedved would like to see a review of the notifications and associated documentation on the wiki 17:04:08 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks what we should focus on next week 17:07:24 <tbachman> #action jmedved to send email to the mailing list to let folks know that next week’s meeting will be review on the notifications API 17:07:32 <tbachman> #endmeeting