==================================== #opendaylight-meeting: MDSAL Hackers ==================================== Meeting started by alagalah at 16:05:58 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/mdsal_hackers/opendaylight-meeting-mdsal_hackers.2014-12-01-16.05.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda bashing (tbachman, 16:06:22) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/md_sal_hackers/opendaylight-meeting-md_sal_hackers.2014-11-24-16.00.html minutes from last week’s meeting (tbachman, 16:07:41) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Controller_Core_Functionality_Tutorials:Project_proposal (alagalah, 16:11:43) * alagalah provided the project proposal for the Tutorials project (tbachman, 16:12:27) * jmedved says for scope, we should add netconf/restconf as well (tbachman, 16:15:12) * jmedved says we should indicate the the project facilitates best practices in coding patterns and reusable pieces of code (tbachman, 16:18:51) * uchau asks if the openflowplugin and openflowjava are considered offset 0 projects (tbachman, 16:19:25) * alagalah asks if there are alternative ways to address that without confusing the scope (tbachman, 16:19:47) * uchau asks if we have to specify the offset (tbachman, 16:20:05) * ttkacik_ says if we specify offset 0, we will likely not have the openflowplugin or openflowjava (tbachman, 16:21:00) * ttkacik_ says if we go with offset 1, we will get the openflowplugin (tbachman, 16:21:05) * alagalah asks if the list in the current proposal captures the scope (tbachman, 16:21:42) * ttkacik_ asks if the tutorials is meant to encompass 3rd parties (tbachman, 16:22:05) * alagalah says he needs to think about it, but is skeptical that this could be addressed in the Lithium time frame (tbachman, 16:22:25) * ttkacik_ asks if the on-boarding for the java apis and java tutorials is mean to address private app development (tbachman, 16:22:59) * alagalah asks if we can put a “phased approach” into the project proposal (tbachman, 16:23:26) * ttkacik_ says that you can make it so that some parts of the tutorial are optional (tbachman, 16:24:04) * jmedved recommends that folks think about the existing proposal (tbachman, 16:26:31) * alagalah asks colindixon if it’s okay to rename scope to desription and scope (tbachman, 16:26:52) * colindixon says if the description really is the scope, then that’s fine, but just make sure the TSC understands the scope and that it’s “well-stated" (tbachman, 16:27:42) * alagalah asks when the deadline is to put this up in order to make Lithium (tbachman, 16:28:01) * colindixon says this could be an offset 2 project, in which case the deadline isn’t until 12/25 (tbachman, 16:28:16) * colindixon says if you email proposals mailing list by christmas, it’s fine (tbachman, 16:28:46) * project template proposal (tbachman, 16:29:16) * ACTION: ttkacik to send an email with a concrete/specific example of how bugzilla can be set up to use for automation of release planning and tracking (tbachman, 16:30:01) * https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/YANG_Tools:Issue_Tracking (ttkacik_, 16:30:29) * jmedved asks why this is under yangtools on the wiki (tbachman, 16:32:31) * ttkacik_ says it was started under yangtools, but we can move to a cross-project/best-practices (tbachman, 16:32:53) * colindixon recommends moving it to best-practices (tbachman, 16:33:02) * colindixon says that the opendaylight bugs page would be a good place to link it (tbachman, 16:33:39) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Bugs OpenDaylight bugs wiki page (tbachman, 16:34:11) * colindixon wonders if we should have temporary good links, and try to put them into some structure later (tbachman, 16:34:31) * colindixon says it would be good to have ttkacik_ walk through this process on a TWS (tbachman, 16:36:15) * LINK: http://bit.ly/mdsal-dev-links (ttkacik_, 16:38:50) * ACTION: ttkacik_ to move the Issue Tracking to either the best practices or cross project wiki, and provide a link in the OpenDaylight bugs page (tbachman, 16:44:16) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:Config:Main#Overview the overview of the config subsystem (colindixon, 16:46:33) * colindixon says that others may be able to fill in the dependency resolution section better (tbachman, 16:47:24) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:MD-SAL_Document_Review:Config_SubSystem <- Maros documentation on ConfigSubsystem (alagalah, 16:47:38) * ttkacik_ says that in Helium, we allow for runtime reconfiguration of dependencies (e.g. clustering — reconfigures MD-SAL) (tbachman, 16:48:41) * colindixon says that in OSGI you could do the same thing by taking down a dependency and bringing the dependency back up (tbachman, 16:49:29) * ttkacik_ says you then need code in your application that uses the Felix DM or service tracker, so then the problem is how to configure what you want (tbachman, 16:49:50) * ttkacik_ says with the config subsystem,it’s external to the application, (tbachman, 16:50:13) * colindixon says it lets you put constraints on the valid implementations you’re willing to accept (tbachman, 16:50:36) * ACTION: colindixon to expand the dependency resolution section (tbachman, 16:51:02) * ACTION: alagalah to read the config subsystem portion of the wiki page to see if it makes sense (tbachman, 16:51:30) * LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpLBUvTNW8I 5 minute config files from edwarnicke (colindixon, 16:52:01) * ACTION: colindixon to fold the 5 minute youtube videos into the wiki page (tbachman, 16:53:36) * colindixon asks where this overview should live (tbachman, 16:54:07) * jmedved says the config subsystem is okay where it is; do we want to update the architecture overview (tbachman, 16:54:21) * https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:MD-SAL_Document_Review:Architecture (jmedved, 16:54:45) * ACTION: colindixon to review the MD-SAL Document Review: architecture wiki page (tbachman, 16:55:13) * jmedved says he’d like to see similar pages for karaf, clustering, etc. (tbachman, 16:55:40) * ACTION: jmedved to send out invites for this week’s 7-am PST meetings (tbachman, 16:57:08) Meeting ended at 16:57:58 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * alagalah * alagalah to read the config subsystem portion of the wiki page to see if it makes sense * colindixon * colindixon to expand the dependency resolution section * colindixon to fold the 5 minute youtube videos into the wiki page * colindixon to review the MD-SAL Document Review: architecture wiki page * jmedved * jmedved to send out invites for this week’s 7-am PST meetings * ttkacik_ * ttkacik_ to move the Issue Tracking to either the best practices or cross project wiki, and provide a link in the OpenDaylight bugs page People present (lines said) --------------------------- * tbachman (66) * odl_meetbot (6) * alagalah (6) * colindixon (5) * ttkacik_ (2) * jmedved (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4