18:10:19 <colindixon> #startmeeting odlforge
18:10:19 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 14 18:10:19 2014 UTC.  The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html.
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18:10:26 <cdub> #link http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html
18:11:45 <colindixon> #info the core idea is to give people a place to do real work with code without having to go through project proposal project
18:12:42 <colindixon> #info it’s also a great way to start and maintain things until they become good incubation projects and have the TSC have good data about how much interest there is
18:12:57 <cdub> #link https://github.com/odlforge
18:13:00 <colindixon> #info key point is that it *is not* actual ODL code, it isn’t shipped in releases, or officially blessed
18:13:18 <rexpugh> would these odlforge projects need any sort of approval oversight since they are using "resources"
18:14:08 <colindixon> #info the above link makes that clear by differentiating between git.opendaylight.org, our mirror at github.com/opendaylight, and github.com/odlforge
18:14:35 <Madhu_> colindixon: is meetingbot still active and taking notes ? ;)
18:14:37 <colindixon> rexpugh: good question
18:14:47 <colindixon> Madhu_: we started a new meeting
18:14:48 <tykeal> Madhu_: yes it is
18:15:09 <Madhu_> cool. thanks
18:15:10 <colindixon> https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/odlforge/opendaylight-meeting-odlforge.2014-08-14-18.10.log.txt
18:15:32 <colindixon> #info so far, the only thing that has been done is to create that empty github page
18:15:57 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke asks why we stood it up on github instead of our own infrastructure
18:16:54 <colindixon> #info cdub says that the github is there just for the same reason our current github thing is there, i.e., to mirror our own internal gerrit things
18:17:29 <colindixon> #info tykeal says that his current thoughts are to have only one gerrit set up with a separate tree named “forge” or “odlforge”
18:18:34 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke expresses some worry that that might not be enough separation since forge patches would show up looking similar to regular projects
18:20:30 <colindixon> #chair cdub edwarnicke phrobb
18:20:30 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: cdub colindixon edwarnicke phrobb
18:21:33 <colindixon> #topic tykeal’s thoghts on how to get this working
18:21:53 <cdub> #info current ideas: separate tree in a current gerrit
18:22:07 <colindixon> #info right now the thought was a separate tree in gerrit for two reasons: (1) people can keep their current profile and (2) less infrastructure to set up
18:22:40 <cdub> like jenkins-forge.opendaylight.org
18:22:59 <colindixon> #info there would be a wholly separate jenkins for forge with something like jenkins-forge.opendaylight.org or something similar
18:23:32 <colindixon> #info for bugzilla, there’s no way to clearly tag things as forge and tykeal really doesn’t want to set up another bugzilla
18:23:38 <cdub> #info likely punt on bz (hard to separate and hard to set up new one)
18:24:05 <cdub> #info use dev list w/ forge project [topic] (no new lists!)
18:24:34 <colindixon> #info last thing is mailing lists, tykeal says he’s adamantly opposed to giving them their own mailing lists
18:24:35 <cdub> (sorry, missed sonar comment to #info)
18:25:10 <colindixon> #info separate repositories for forge artifacts
18:25:11 <cdub> #info nexus...opendaylight-forge repo and use org.opendaylight.forge namespace
18:26:21 <colindixon> cdub, edwarnicke: I actually need to run
18:26:32 <cdub> colindixon: ok
18:26:40 <colindixon> can I trust you guys to wrap this up and do the #endmeeting ?
18:26:42 <colindixon> thanks
18:29:31 <dfarrell07> colindixon: I'll make sure #endmeeting happens
18:30:34 <cdub> #info gerrit separation concern (a cset gerrit link doesn't indicate the project until you click on it)
18:30:41 <colindixon> #chair dfarrell07
18:30:41 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: cdub colindixon dfarrell07 edwarnicke phrobb
18:39:21 <rexpugh> can i get a closing statement on our odlforge request for netsal while we are here please?
18:39:35 <rexpugh> sorry waiting for a pause.
18:39:39 <colindixon> rexpugh: do you have audio?
18:39:57 <rexpugh> im trying to fix it ;)
18:40:06 <rexpugh> headset troubles
18:41:16 <colindixon> rexpugh: hopefully that helps I actually have to leave now
18:41:22 <colindixon> thanks everyone
18:41:42 <rexpugh> thank you!
18:41:55 <tbachman> #info cdub proposes the idea of setting up a single project to test out things like infrastructure, etc.
18:42:04 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke expresses concern about separation
18:42:19 <tbachman> #info tykeal believes the separation issue boils down to gerrit
18:42:29 <tbachman> #info edwarnick asks if we’ll have a separate gerrit for odlforge
18:42:48 <tbachman> #info tykeal says that if we go that route, we will not allow imports of history
18:43:11 <tbachman> #info b/c there is no way to confirm that the same SSO ID exists in both gerrit systems at the same time
18:46:11 <rexpugh> thanks everyone, i am going to buy a new headset now...
18:46:17 <cdub> #info be sure odl projects can't depend on odlforge projects
18:50:46 <cdub> #endmeeting