===================================== #opendaylight-meeting: TSC 08-21-2014 ===================================== Meeting started by regXboi at 17:01:28 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/tsc_08_21_2014/opendaylight-meeting-tsc_08_21_2014.2014-08-21-17.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * dmm (dmm, 17:01:38) * regXboi (regXboi, 17:01:44) * kwatsen (kwatsen, 17:01:44) * uchau - proxy for HP (uchau, 17:01:48) * Ivan Wood for Microsoft (IvanWood, 17:01:51) * Chris Price joined (ChrisPriceAB, 17:02:41) * Agenda Bashing (tbachman, 17:03:28) * edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 17:03:43) * creation reviews (regXboi, 17:04:26) * In the queue: Discovery (first possible review date: 09.04.2014) (regXboi, 17:04:34) * No project reviews this week. (ChrisPriceAB, 17:04:37) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2014-August/000146.html (regXboi, 17:04:42) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Discovery (regXboi, 17:04:47) * committer promotions (regXboi, 17:04:54) * Maxime Millette-Coulombe and Harman Singh to committer on dlux (regXboi, 17:05:54) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-August/001554.html (regXboi, 17:06:21) * need committer +1s email - some discussion (regXboi, 17:06:31) * not having committers to dlux is posing a problem for getting Helium out the door (tbachman, 17:06:49) * edwarnicke asks if it’s possible to have a majority of committers for the project (tbachman, 17:07:31) * ACTION: will punt to next week (unforuntaely) (regXboi, 17:08:45) * Release Readout (regXboi, 17:08:54) * ACTION: postponed (regXboi, 17:09:27) * at-large elections update (regXboi, 17:09:33) * only one persone has nominated (regXboi, 17:09:40) * request from dmm to get more nominees (regXboi, 17:09:52) * LINK: - https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/dlux-dev/2014-August/000075.html 3rd commiter of 4 chimes in (edwarnicke, 17:10:19) * committer promotions (redux) (regXboi, 17:11:30) * Maxime Millette-Coulombe and Harman Singh to committer on dlux (Madhu standing in for Endre) (regXboi, 17:11:50) * repeat link (regXboi, 17:12:11) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-August/001554.html (regXboi, 17:12:19) * LINK: - https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/dlux-dev/2014-August/000075.html 3rd commiter of 4 chimes in (tbachman, 17:12:32) * above is repeat link of email (regXboi, 17:12:41) * 1 (kwatsen, 17:15:41) * VOTE: Voted on "Maxime Millette-Coulombe and Harman Singh to committer on dlux?" Results are, 1: 5 (regXboi, 17:15:57) * AGREED: Maxime Millette-Coulombe and Harman Singh to committer on dlux (regXboi, 17:16:12) * TSC role(s) and Project Scoping (regXboi, 17:16:21) * OVSBB and HP openflow code (regXboi, 17:16:30) * dmm says there is a role for project scoping, if only for the reason of only having 1 solution per problem. (tbachman, 17:17:31) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/ovsdb-dev/2014-August/000648.html (regXboi, 17:17:31) * dmm asks if this is in the critical path for helium and suggests that the OVSDB and OFplugin folks sort this out themselves and come back to the TSC with a proposed solution for the 8/28 meeting (regXboi, 17:18:35) * and the TSC will review and exercise its oversite responsibility at that meeting (regXboi, 17:19:03) * Madhu and networkstatic ask how this request has turned into scope creep? (regXboi, 17:20:53) * ChrisPriceAB replies that OFPlugin has been working with HP about the plugin and so the original request has friction (regXboi, 17:23:00) * regXboi comments that he feels the OVSDB project has a history of creeping out of the agreed project scope. (ChrisPriceAB, 17:25:39) * dmm recommends taking this off of the TSC meeting, and thinks the teams should sit down and talk through the differences, n account of lack of not all parties being present and lack of time on the TSC (tbachman, 17:27:26) * ACTION: dmm will find a time for all parties to get together to discuss, and will moderate (tbachman, 17:27:57) * ODL Forge (tbachman, 17:30:06) * out of order because related to previous topic (regXboi, 17:30:28) * Information needed to start ODL Forge has been provided to LF (tbachman, 17:31:08) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2014-08-14-16.59.html for minutes of last week's call (regXboi, 17:31:49) * edwarnicke says that the TSC hasn’t approved ODL Forge (tbachman, 17:32:12) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/odlforge/opendaylight-meeting-odlforge.2014-08-14-18.10.html (regXboi, 17:33:51) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/odlforge/opendaylight-meeting-odlforge.2014-08-14-18.10.html (CASP3R, 17:33:52) * link is odlforge meeting minutes (regXboi, 17:34:15) * edwarnicke asks if this is how the TSC wants to spend their energy at the moment (tbachman, 17:34:19) * dmm wonders if we aren't ready for this discussion (regXboi, 17:34:53) * edwarnicke points out there are open questions that need to be brought to the TSC (tbachman, 17:35:44) * kwatsen asks what the motivation is for ODL forge (tbachman, 17:36:05) * ACTION: without Chris Wright, we have to push this to next week (regXboi, 17:36:38) * Karaf Updates (regXboi, 17:36:43) * edwarnicke is sharing hot wiki page (regXboi, 17:37:08) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Karaf:Hands_On_Guide#Structure_of_Karaf_so_far (edwarnicke, 17:37:23) * ACTION: edwarnicke to update https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Karaf:Hands_On_Guide#Structure_of_Karaf_so_far to be usable by the larger community (regXboi, 17:37:55) * edwarnicke discusses how to have a test that checks karaf features file (regXboi, 17:42:36) * there is a limitation in pax-exam 4.1 that limits it to 50 instances (tbachman, 17:43:43) * which causes issues with respect to recursive testing in integration (regXboi, 17:44:05) * questions from Madhu (deferred until after the wiki page) (regXboi, 17:45:52) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Karaf:Hands_On_Guide#The_things.2C_where_they_are.2C_and_why link to explain reasons behind decisions in karaf (tbachman, 17:46:36) * kwatsen expresses concern about introducing karaf this late (tbachman, 17:48:18) * edwarnicke says this page is germane to the mechanics of making feature.xml files available to integration and "unit test" are table stakes (regXboi, 17:50:45) * Madhu says that the AD-SAL was removed from the distribution, breaking OVSDB (tbachman, 17:51:24) * LINK: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/9861/9/opendaylight/distribution/opendaylight-karaf/pom.xml gerrit where AD-SAL was removed (tbachman, 17:52:05) * Requests are made that when changes/actions are done that impact projects those causing the impact need to communicate the impact prior to causing the impact (phrobb, 17:56:16) * long discussion (regXboi, 18:01:15) * kwatsen asks what all the projects have to do and by when, and when will this be communicated clearly (tbachman, 18:01:17) * ACTION: edwarnicke will communicate the changes needed for projects to support karaf (tbachman, 18:01:50) * kwatsen asks if all the projects need to get on top of this within the next week (tbachman, 18:02:01) * edwarnicke says yes ASAP (regXboi, 18:02:17) * kwatsen says that some projects may not be able to get on top of this in the next week, so we may need an exception path (regXboi, 18:03:17) * dmm notes that this looks like its in critical path and edwarnicke agrees (regXboi, 18:04:20) * edwarnicke asks that George Zhao be the "project herder" (regXboi, 18:07:22) Meeting ended at 18:08:19 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * dmm * dmm will find a time for all parties to get together to discuss, and will moderate * edwarnicke * edwarnicke to update https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Karaf:Hands_On_Guide#Structure_of_Karaf_so_far to be usable by the larger community * edwarnicke will communicate the changes needed for projects to support karaf * **UNASSIGNED** * will punt to next week (unforuntaely) * postponed * without Chris Wright, we have to push this to next week People present (lines said) --------------------------- * regXboi (98) * tbachman (64) * odl_meetbot (34) * ChrisPriceAB (10) * edwarnicke (6) * dmm (5) * alagalah (5) * Madhu (4) * IvanWood (4) * uchau (3) * kwatsen (3) * phrobb (3) * mlemay (3) * CASP3R (2) * dbainbri (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4