17:59:50 <regXboi> #startmeeting TSC 11/6/2014 17:59:50 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 6 17:59:50 2014 UTC. The chair is regXboi. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 17:59:50 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:59:50 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc_11_6_2014' 18:00:02 <regXboi> #chair tbachman 18:00:02 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: regXboi tbachman 18:00:04 <tbachman> :) 18:00:07 <regXboi> #chair colindixon 18:00:07 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: colindixon regXboi tbachman 18:00:12 <tbachman> #topic agenda bashing 18:00:16 <ChrisPriceAB> scribe like you own it thomas! 18:00:21 <regXboi> er? agenda bashing? 18:00:25 <tbachman> ChrisPriceAB: hey! :) 18:00:37 <regXboi> #topic roll call and agenda bashing 18:00:40 <tbachman> regXboi: I think that’s what it’s listed as in the minutes? 18:00:41 <phrobb> feel free to add me as chair 18:00:41 <tbachman> sorry 18:00:43 <tbachman> lol 18:00:44 <tbachman> back 18:00:45 <tbachman> :) 18:00:46 <regXboi> #chair phrobb 18:00:46 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: colindixon phrobb regXboi tbachman 18:00:47 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price 18:00:49 <tbachman> what did I miss? 18:00:51 <regXboi> #info regXboi 18:01:00 <colindixon> #info colindixon 18:01:07 <IvanWood> #info Ivan Wood 18:01:16 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2014-10-30-16.59.html last weeks TSC minutes to review action items 18:01:26 <regXboi> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda 18:01:39 <regXboi> #undo 18:01:39 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x2522c90> 18:01:43 <LuisGomez> #info Luis Gomez 18:01:44 <tbachman> colindixon: got it 18:01:47 <tbachman> too much data ;) 18:01:48 <regXboi> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda this weeks agenda 18:02:00 <regXboi> tbachman: that's why we have multiple chairs ;) 18:02:06 <tbachman> colindixon: recording? 18:02:22 <regXboi> tbachman: good catch :) 18:02:42 <mohnish> #info mohnish anumala 18:03:14 * tbachman watches regXboi to follow his excellent minute-taking lead :) 18:03:47 <regXboi> #info colindixon claims to have covered his action items :) 18:03:49 <alagalah> #info colindixon did all his action items 18:03:51 <alagalah> :) 18:04:00 <alagalah> regXboi: LOL 18:04:14 <regXboi> #info edwarnicke claims that auto-release on master is still stuck ... so 18:04:14 <colindixon> #action gzhao and edwarnicke to continue to work on getting Lithium auto-build to work 18:04:24 <tbachman> ;) 18:04:53 <dlenrow> #info dlenrow 18:05:16 <regXboi> ashaikh: dude! 18:05:59 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke 18:06:00 <mestery> #info mestery 18:06:04 <regXboi> #undo 18:06:04 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x269e1d0> 18:06:26 <tbachman> jmedved: #info in? 18:06:36 <jmedved> #info jmedved 18:06:49 * ChrisPriceAB ooh official! 18:06:52 <regXboi> #topic updates 18:07:31 <colindixon> #info we only have 25 of our ~150 committers registered as members of the nonprofit and thus eleigible to vote 18:07:48 <colindixon> #info it would be good of others could join the nonprofit so that they can vote 18:08:14 <colindixon> #info the voting started on Tuesday and closes on 11/18, if you get your membership in, you will be allowed to vote 18:08:49 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Committer_Board_Members:2014_Election the board elections wiki page 18:08:51 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Committer_Board_Members:2014_Election Wiki page describing TSC committer election 18:08:52 <tbachman> #undo 18:08:52 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x269ead0> 18:08:54 <tbachman> Sorry 18:09:12 <colindixon> #info phrobb will do his best to get people in to vote if they sign up by 11/18, but the sooner you do it the better 18:09:24 <tbachman> #topic events 18:09:26 * ChrisPriceAB don't compete with the dixon engine 18:09:29 <tbachman> lol 18:09:32 * tbachman nods 18:10:02 <colindixon> colindixon: is trying to avoid competing, but will if need be :-) 18:10:04 <regXboi> #info a lot of folks are at OpenStack in Paris (as is phrobb) 18:10:11 * colindixon hands the baton to tbachman and regXboi 18:10:18 <tbachman> :) 18:11:08 * regXboi wonders when mestery will speak up 18:11:11 <tbachman> #info phrobb says neutron devs are working hard on improving the stability and modularization of their component 18:11:19 * mestery lurks and thinks phrobb is doing a good job here. 18:11:58 * ChrisPriceAB 3rd party CI is the bomb! 18:12:04 <mestery> ChrisPriceAB: LOL 18:12:19 <alagalah> ChrisPriceAB: As in a tick tick tick bomb ? 18:12:30 * regXboi notes that is way TMI 18:12:37 <alagalah> ^^^^^^^^^ 18:12:40 <abhijitkumbhare> what's CI? 18:12:48 <regXboi> CI = continuous integration 18:12:52 <colindixon> regXboi: thanks 18:12:54 <abhijitkumbhare> OK :) 18:13:17 <dlenrow> I Shouldn't have bought ChrisPriceAB Beers 18:13:21 * alagalah <<<----- a hackfest with hacking? Crazy talk. 18:14:02 <ChrisPriceAB> key topic dev progress 18:14:03 <regXboi> outcome of a hackfest? I'd hope code 18:14:19 <mestery> regXboi: Lets not get all crazy here. 18:14:20 * regXboi knows that is his a hopeless optomist 18:14:21 <mestery> regXboi: ;) 18:14:34 * regXboi wonders what the hell he was typing 18:15:20 <colindixon> can somebody log some of this? 18:15:44 <alagalah> colindixon: edwarnicke If we are going to have a hackfest, scope is everything... if its a big tent come write ODL applications hackfest, we MUST have a section on education and resources for folks to read etc before coming. 18:15:45 <tbachman> #info colindixon asks if we should have a pre-Lithium hackfest 18:15:57 <tbachman> #info regXboi recommends that it be virtual, given the global participation in the project 18:16:11 <alagalah> colindixon: edwarnicke What I heard was more of a Design Forum rather than a hackfest 18:16:23 <phrobb> #action phrobb to start email thread on dates/times/activities for hackfest and integration-togetherness 18:16:37 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke recommends doing something between the M1 and M2 time frame 18:16:47 * ChrisPriceAB as an ex-manager feeling a little uncomfortable but somehow freed 18:17:10 <tbachman> #info mlemay recommends having it sooner rather than later, focused more around the users rather than internal devs of ODL 18:17:11 <ChrisPriceAB> Are we talking Jan wek 3? (pre-proposed M2) 18:17:28 <regXboi> ouch 18:17:51 <regXboi> #topic update: system integration/testing 18:17:52 * tbachman wonders if regXboi sat on something 18:18:09 <regXboi> #topic update: stable/helium 18:18:09 <tbachman> #info LuisGomez says he has no updates this week 18:18:18 <regXboi> oops :) 18:18:22 <regXboi> #undo 18:18:22 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2847950> 18:18:24 <regXboi> #undo 18:18:24 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x2847e50> 18:18:30 <regXboi> #info LuisGomez says he has no updates this week 18:18:41 <tbachman> did I get that wrong? 18:18:50 <regXboi> no... out of order (my bad) 18:18:54 <tbachman> ah 18:19:01 <regXboi> who is asking that question? 18:19:04 <tbachman> RTT - showed in-order locally, but thx 18:19:07 <tbachman> mohnish, Ithink 18:19:08 <abhijitkumbhare> Mohnish 18:19:22 <regXboi> somebody info that question (I didn't catch it) 18:19:26 <regXboi> please? 18:19:40 * tbachman missed it as well 18:20:27 <regXboi> #info mohnish question what solutions ODL is aimed at? (I think) 18:20:49 <tbachman> #info mlemay and colindixon says that the common one is OpenStack, but having others as well would be helpful 18:21:19 <tbachman> #info colindixon says that Margaret (sp?) from AT&T showed up at the dev summit and had some input from their perspective 18:21:30 <regXboi> tbachman: Margaret Chiosi 18:21:37 <tbachman> regXboi: thx! 18:21:37 * ChrisPriceAB @mlemay why do you insist on asking those sorts of questions...??? free love and beer (as in speech) 18:21:52 * regXboi wonders when somebody will ask how he knew that :) 18:22:03 <mohnish> :-) 18:22:11 <alagalah> regXboi: Which part? 18:22:14 <tbachman> #info colindixon says this is an area we should look to improve for Lithium, so if folks will start cataloging this kind of information it would be very helpful 18:22:24 <alagalah> regXboi: ...and I ceased wondering long ago how you know so much 18:22:33 <regXboi> alagalah: how I knew the spelling of the name of the person Colin mentioned on the fly 18:23:00 <alagalah> regXboi: Oh... yeah... I certainly didn't wonder about that 18:23:28 <tbachman> #action mohnish and mlemay to work on gathering and acrhiving use cases 18:24:02 <tbachman> #undo 18:24:02 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x2728410> 18:24:06 <phrobb> #info phrobb knows that Dave Neary is also working on collecting these… collaboration opportunity 18:24:19 <tbachman> #action dlenrow, mohnish and mlemay to work on gathering and acrhiving use cases 18:24:33 <tbachman> #topic infrastructure 18:25:10 <tbachman> #info tykeal says that they’ve finished building the images for RackSpace silos, and is preparing to migrate the gerrit instance tonight (will send email) 18:25:38 * tbachman wonders where his co-scribe-in-crime has gone 18:25:41 <phrobb> #info OVSDB migration to rackspace is imminent. 18:25:41 <tykeal> doh, my call dropped 18:26:34 <tbachman> #info zxiiro emailed instructions on how to get started with Jenkins Job Builder to a handful of projects 18:26:49 * regXboi notes tbachman wins again :) 18:26:49 <tykeal> thanks phrobb that was all of my updates :) 18:26:54 <tbachman> lol 18:27:17 <tbachman> #action colindixon to try Jenkins Job Builder with TTP 18:27:33 * ChrisPriceAB delegate, good job! 18:28:30 * tbachman missed some things 18:29:22 <regXboi> #topic creation reviews and committer promotions 18:29:22 <tbachman> #topic stable/helium release 18:29:25 <tbachman> #Undo 18:29:25 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x24818d0> 18:29:26 <tbachman> sorry 18:29:28 <regXboi> #info none so 18:29:33 <regXboi> #topic stable/helium release 18:30:48 <tbachman> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2014-November/000856.html email with link to stable/helium build 18:31:00 <colindixon> #link https://nexus.opendaylight.org/content/groups/staging/org/opendaylight/integration/distribution-karaf/0.2.1-Helium-SR1/ the current RC 18:31:28 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke asks if we’ve given the projects adequate time to do their testing 18:32:07 <tbachman> #info colindixon says that given that the build happened this morning, are we willing to bless the build without hearing back from the projects 18:32:12 <colindixon> #link https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/odlautorelease/job/autorelease-helium-worker/200/ the build that produced those artifcats 18:34:14 <mlemay> @chrispriceab just saw comment ahahhahha yes....users.... :) 18:34:19 <regXboi> #info colindixon looks for a time for a special meeting 18:34:44 <phrobb> #startvote shall the tsc have a meeting/vote at 9:30am PST on Monday Nov 10th to bless the Helium stable release? -1, 0, +1 18:34:44 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the tsc have a meeting/vote at 9:30am PST on Monday Nov 10th to bless the Helium stable release? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 18:34:44 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 18:34:54 <colindixon> #vote +1 18:34:55 <regXboi> #vote -1 18:34:58 * ChrisPriceAB :D noticed... 18:35:02 <LuisGomez> #vote +1 18:35:02 <jmedved> #vote +1 18:35:17 <dlenrow> #vote +1 18:35:24 <edwarnicke> #vote +1 18:35:41 <mohnish> #vote +1 18:35:57 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1 18:36:04 * ChrisPriceAB phew 18:36:39 <regXboi> #endvote 18:36:39 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the tsc have a meeting/vote at 9:30am PST on Monday Nov 10th to bless the Helium stable release?" Results are 18:36:39 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): dlenrow, jmedved, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, ChrisPriceAB, mohnish, colindixon 18:36:39 <odl_meetbot> -1 (1): regXboi 18:36:42 <dlenrow> regXboi: Mickey as proxy? 18:37:26 <alagalah> colindixon: I have a question on this topic once you get your agree 18:37:36 <regXboi> #agreed the tsc will meet/vote at 9:30am PST on 11/10 for Helium SR1 18:37:58 <colindixon> #action phrobb to send out an invite for 9:30a pacific on 11/10 to bless Helium SR1 (or not) 18:38:32 <regXboi> #info alagalah asks how to get the source for every single helium project 18:38:37 <tbachman> regXboi: thx 18:38:54 <colindixon> #action zxiiro and alagalah to produce instructions on how to get the source for the various releases for Helium 18:40:48 <tbachman> #info colindixon says if you want to merge a patch to stable/helium, put it on the spreadsheet tracked by gzhao 18:40:53 <tbachman> anyone have that spreadsheet link? 18:41:07 <tbachman> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TRYposNDFPaKcySlvwkOXvfR6Anx2EFujlIjoTthhRY/edit#gid=1109333662 spreadsheet for tracking stable/helium bugs 18:41:18 <colindixon> ^^^^^^ BLOCKING BUGS 18:41:51 <tbachman> #undo 18:41:51 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x2580450> 18:42:00 <tbachman> : #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TRYposNDFPaKcySlvwkOXvfR6Anx2EFujlIjoTthhRY/edit#gid=1109333662 spreadsheet for tracking stable/helium blocking bugs 18:42:14 <regXboi> somebody please info that - I can't here mlemay? 18:42:18 <regXboi> er hear that is 18:42:31 * tbachman is spotty today 18:42:32 <tbachman> no 18:42:47 * tbachman will #info it 18:42:52 <tbachman> (after mlemay writes it) 18:43:05 <alagalah> tbachman: Pretty sure anyone can #info 18:43:07 <regXboi> #topic lithium release plan 18:43:17 <tbachman> alagalah: ACK 18:43:25 <regXboi> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:DRAFT_Lithium_Release_Plan_ckd draft lithium release plan 18:43:38 <mlemay> Investigate usage of repotool manifest for inter-repo + tags management with Tahn 18:43:58 <tbachman> #action mlemay to Investigate usage of repotool manifest for inter-repo + tags management with zxiiro 18:44:15 <regXboi> #info previous action is part of previous topic 18:44:22 <tbachman> regXboi: thx 18:44:29 <mlemay> Thx ryan 18:44:36 <mlemay> And tom 18:44:47 <tbachman> mlemay: my pleasure ;) 18:45:40 <tbachman> #info colindixon moved the deadlines based on M1 to Thursdays, so that we have Friday to process results and give advice to projects, and have the weekend as free time to pursue any items 18:47:09 * tbachman can’t keep up 18:47:40 <dlenrow> tbachman: CDK did lots of stuff 18:47:47 <tbachman> dlenrow: ;) 18:48:26 <tbachman> #info a change was made that APIs must be deprecated in a release before they can be removed in a following release 18:49:05 <tbachman> #info Added that sonar reporting will be used as consideration for committer promotions 18:50:29 <tbachman> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2014-November/002001.html email from LuisGomez describing integration checklist proposal 18:50:45 <regXboi> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Lithium_Project_Integration_Requirements link from draft RP 18:50:53 <LuisGomez> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Lithium_Project_Integration_Requirements 18:51:00 <regXboi> #undo 18:51:00 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x275b110> 18:51:05 <regXboi> already had it 18:52:11 <tbachman> can someone who’s not using a mic go on mute? lots of echo 18:53:24 <phrobb> #action LuisGomez to change Karafe Distribution bullet one to say "a release vehicle" instead of "the release vehicle" 18:53:37 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke asks if integration should be *all* the features, or just user-facing features? 18:53:52 <regXboi> #info regXboi notes that action is already done - that may be a record :) 18:54:28 <phrobb> regxboi… was only watching ckd's non-refreshed screen 18:54:35 <tbachman> #info colindixon says we can strongly encourage people to do better things with their feature repos, but requiring them to do that at this point is probably not going to happen 18:54:48 <tbachman> #info regXboi feels we can encourage but can’t require it 18:55:01 <phrobb> regXboi: i'm too trained to be watching etherpads from this week 18:55:27 <regXboi> #info regXboi wishes to correct that - I said we can document in Li and encoruage in Li, but we can't require until Be or B 18:55:37 <tbachman> regXboi: thx :) 18:55:48 <regXboi> tbachman: no worries 18:56:57 * tbachman isn’t sure that’s 100% correct - it’s possible there are projects with local features that aren’t part of integration? 18:57:49 * regXboi wonders as well 18:58:03 * tbachman shudders 18:58:18 * regXboi wonders who will be first to hide in the corner :) 19:00:07 * ChrisPriceAB already hiding... 19:00:31 * tbachman wonders why we don’t consider this to be feature:list 19:01:56 <tbachman> #info mlemay says we need some good high-level features that users can have to install, if we don’t consider these to be the -all features 19:02:06 <colindixon> all features that are intended to be included in the release should have their encompassing features repo listed in integration 19:02:30 <tbachman> #info colindixon says all features that are intended to be included in the release should have their encompassing features repo listed in integration 19:11:13 <regXboi> #info the editing of the integration wiki page conitinues 19:11:54 <tbachman> regXboi: thx 19:12:01 * tbachman wasn’t sure how much info to capture here 19:14:15 <colindixon> yeah 19:14:16 <colindixon> thanks 19:14:31 <colindixon> other TSC members should speak up and ask quetions if they have the 19:15:06 * colindixon looks at dlenrow, jmedved, mohnish, IvanWood, ChrisPriceAB 19:15:18 <tbachman> #info LuisGomez covers items that are new for the Lithium release, including things like optionally trigger System Test (ST) upon code commit, project merge and project integration jobs will run System Test (ST) on project recommended karaf features, project release test job will run System Test (ST) on project recommended karaf features, and ntegration project will provide "extra" longer tests, scalability/performance, platfo 19:15:19 <tbachman> test, etc 19:16:26 <mohnish> still trying to digest the details. 19:16:41 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Lithium_Project_Integration_Requirements#Requirements Propsed requirements on projects from the Integration group 19:17:14 <tbachman> #info TSC asks if the additional jenkins jobs will slow down merges 19:18:16 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke says implementing all of this will have the effect of delaying the pushing of artifacts 19:19:16 <tbachman> #info rovarga says we may want to have a layered system test 19:21:04 <rovarga> edwarnicke: +1 19:22:33 <tbachman> I guess we’re still doing 2hr meetings? 19:22:47 <regXboi> tbachman: yes 19:23:32 * regXboi wonders if we should refocus if we are going to vote by the top of the hour 19:27:42 <ChrisPriceAB> are we not running out of time to be tentative? (just wondering) 19:27:58 * ChrisPriceAB like regXboi is wondering 19:28:04 <regXboi> ChrisPriceAB: we haven't gotten to documentation yet 19:28:13 <colindixon> regXboi: +1, but it’s hard for to me to imagine that people are willing to approve it without hearing the requirements on projects 19:28:13 <regXboi> which is a whole other layer on this 19:28:13 <tbachman> #info Refer to webex recording for discussion on Lithium release plan and Integration Project Lithium requirements 19:28:16 <colindixon> I could be wrong 19:28:16 <alagalah> #info I'd suggest that folks may be finding this section hard to scribe, so would suggest listening to recording from point ~1hr 10min. 19:28:35 <regXboi> alagalah: good point :) 19:28:58 <alagalah> tbachman: Sorry, didn't see your scribe... 19:29:00 * ChrisPriceAB yeah but having looked at the plans this review is nice but if I had blocking issue I would be jumping up and down to address them. 19:29:04 <tbachman> alagalah: np1 :) 19:30:35 * colindixon mulls the idea of also voting on the release plan during the Monday TSC meeting 19:30:54 * regXboi thinks colindixon may have a good idea 19:31:40 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Feature_Integration_System_Test_Template System Test Template from Integration Project 19:31:54 <regXboi> machine format for what? 19:32:16 <colindixon> regXboi: I think descriping the tests for eacht feature 19:32:44 <regXboi> colindixon: ok, I have some headaches starting at M4 19:33:53 <abhijitkumbhare> colindixon - so is Monday TWS meeting going to be a TSC meeting? 19:33:59 <colindixon> abhijitkumbhare: no 19:34:06 <colindixon> ther’es a 9:30 special TSC meeting 19:34:09 <colindixon> from 9:30-10a 19:34:10 <abhijitkumbhare> OK 19:34:35 <abhijitkumbhare> Too short term memory :-) 19:35:18 <abhijitkumbhare> Like one of those fish from "Finding Nemo" :-) 19:35:38 <colindixon> Dori :-) 19:38:17 <alagalah> Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope. 19:38:21 * ChrisPriceAB zzz 19:38:21 <regXboi> yes 19:38:28 <mohnish> yes 19:38:36 <jmedved> yes too 19:39:19 <tbachman> #topic Documentation requirements 19:41:52 <tbachman> #undo 19:41:52 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x2863a10> 19:43:34 <phrobb> #startvote shall the tsc allow integration 2 weeks after each milestone? -1, 0, +1 19:43:34 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the tsc allow integration 2 weeks after each milestone? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 19:43:34 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 19:43:48 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1 19:43:57 <LuisGomez> #vote +1 19:43:58 <colindixon> #vote +1 19:44:04 <jmedved> #vote +1 19:44:07 * ChrisPriceAB who what? 19:44:09 <regXboi> #vote 0 19:44:12 <dlenrow> #vote +1 19:44:14 <IvanWood> #vote +1 19:44:25 <edwarnicke> #vote 0 19:44:29 <mohnish> #vote +1 19:44:48 <phrobb> #endvote 19:44:48 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the tsc allow integration 2 weeks after each milestone?" Results are 19:44:48 <odl_meetbot> 0 (2): edwarnicke, regXboi 19:44:48 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): dlenrow, jmedved, LuisGomez, ChrisPriceAB, mohnish, colindixon, IvanWood 19:45:16 * tbachman waits for #agreed 19:45:16 <colindixon> that passes 19:45:37 <phrobb> #agreed Integration Team has 2 weeks offset after each milestone for their deliverables 19:45:39 <tbachman> #topic Documentation requirements 19:45:41 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Documentation_Group:Lithium_Project_Documentation_Requirements Draft of proposed documentation requirements for Lithium release 19:45:42 <tbachman> phrobb: thx 19:46:06 <tbachman> #info regXboi says they’re looking to move the ascii doc files to the projects 19:46:08 * ChrisPriceAB say what? 19:47:01 <colindixon> #info it’s noted that release notes (which are listed in the main release plan) will also be required in AsciiDoc format (according this draft) so they can be published in the formal documenation on release 19:47:29 <colindixon> #action colindixon to include release notes in the documentation requiremets as well even though they are already in the main release plan 19:48:16 <LuisGomez> I would suggest docs group to consider joining the +2 wk offset, as they are also very dependent on projects inputs 19:48:34 <colindixon> LuisGomez: I think it’s different, but I can explain why later 19:48:58 <LuisGomez> colindixon: ok 19:49:17 * ChrisPriceAB so docs are investigated at M4? just a blink at M3? enforced at M5? 19:49:33 <colindixon> ChrisPriceAB: more or less 19:51:17 <ChrisPriceAB> a template for projects (file format and outline) on the expected formats would be really helpful before M3... 19:52:38 * ChrisPriceAB Ed what do you mean "a long time?" 19:54:29 * tbachman_ lost internetz for a bit 19:54:53 <mlemay> Heading to another meeting sorry... Cheers 19:56:48 <tykeal> edwarnicke: http://media2.onsugar.com/files/2014/03/24/002/n/1922195/f101fe4824def76e_thumb_temp_image10906271395701954/i/Milk-Cookie-Shots-Recipe.jpg 19:57:04 <tbachman> tykeal: num! 19:58:44 <edwarnicke> tykeal: You have just inspired much evil.... delicious eviiiilll ;) 19:58:52 <tykeal> hehe 19:59:09 <tbachman> #topic API change/deprecated/removed rules 19:59:25 * edwarnicke suppresses the urge to #topic cookies 20:00:40 * tbachman watches colindixon hyperdrive 20:01:07 <flaviof> tykeal: yummy! 20:01:48 * ChrisPriceAB Mmmmmm coookieees. (sorry what Phil?) 20:03:34 <regXboi> this is for you ed 20:03:38 <regXboi> #topic cookies 20:03:40 <regXboi> #undo 20:03:40 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x284e650> 20:03:51 * ChrisPriceAB cancel that undo! 20:03:52 <flaviof> regXboi: rofl 20:05:04 * regXboi envisions a new CDROM: "The Best of the One-Group Project Wonders" 20:07:21 * ChrisPriceAB need to write what? (sorry feeling glib) 20:08:27 * ChrisPriceAB want to vote quickly..... 20:09:26 <regXboi> ChrisPriceAB: It would be nice, but there is too much open for me to vote now 20:09:29 <ChrisPriceAB> early january is a concern 20:09:36 <regXboi> agreed 20:09:43 <regXboi> and that's what I fear 20:10:18 <ChrisPriceAB> agreed could be more agressive on the offsets at M2 20:10:26 <ChrisPriceAB> to give a little more time' 20:10:32 <ChrisPriceAB> to offset 0-1 20:11:13 * ChrisPriceAB ooh, executive power! 20:11:15 * regXboi waits for the info from colindixon 20:11:27 * regXboi waits 20:11:44 * ChrisPriceAB ... 20:12:03 <colindixon> #info we intend to vote on the release plan during th special session on Monday at 9:30a pacific 20:12:08 <regXboi> #topic cookies 20:12:09 <phrobb> #endmeeting