#opendaylight-meeting: tsc

Meeting started by colindixon at 18:00:15 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call and agenda bashing (colindixon, 18:00:22)
    1. colindixon (colindixon, 18:00:27)
    2. rajeev (on the phone) (colindixon, 18:00:36)
    3. edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 18:00:47)
    4. https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-02-12-18.00.html link to last week’s TSC meeting minutes (tbachman, 18:00:53)
    5. regXboi (irc so far) (regXboi, 18:01:50)
    6. dfarrell07 (for cdub and Red Hat) (dfarrell07, 18:02:37)
    7. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda This week’s agenda (tbachman, 18:02:44)
    8. kwatsen (kwatsen, 18:03:10)
    9. jmedved (jmedved, 18:03:36)
    10. Youcef Laribi (Youcef, 18:03:57)
    11. mohnish anumala (mohnish, 18:04:07)
    12. dlenrow (dlenrow, 18:05:24)
    13. regXboi in on phone only (regXboi, 18:06:17)
    14. Carol Sanders (proxy for Luis Gomez) (colindixon, 18:06:57)
    15. We couldn't get WebEx to work well, host code issue, no recording :( (dfarrell07, 18:07:32)
    16. unforunately, there will be no recording for the WebEx this week because of host code issues (colindixon, 18:07:36)
    17. edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 18:08:15)
    18. ACTION: colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?) (colindixon, 18:08:39)
    19. ACTION: colindixon and TSC to elaborate on proper procedure for removal of committers from a project (colindixon, 18:08:51)
    20. colindixon says progress has been made for the new Helium SRs (tbachman, 18:09:09)
    21. ACTION: colindixon, zxiiro and others to coordinate figuring out how to set up opt-in/opt-out automatic version bump patches and tags (colindixon, 18:09:24)
    22. ACTION: colindixon to start a discussion around possible use cases as focus areas for lithium on the mailing list (colindixon, 18:09:29)
    23. ACTION: gzhao to ask SNBI if and when the expect to be caught up, M3? (colindixon, 18:09:39)
    24. ACTION: phrobb to hunt down projects to see if they would continue to support Helium (at least) until Lithium is released (colindixon, 18:09:45)
    25. ACTION: gzhao to follow up with projects that haven’t yet reported milestone statuses, colindixon and/or phrobb can help (colindixon, 18:10:23)
    26. colindixon asks if the PCMM has joined the Lithium release (tbachman, 18:11:05)
    27. ACTION: phrobb to reach out to Rob Sherwood about closing down net-virt-platform (colindixon, 18:11:30)
    28. ACTION: phrobb to reach out to plugin2oc, SDNi, and defense4all about JJB migration (colindixon, 18:11:36)

  2. Updates (tbachman, 18:12:19)
    1. colindixon says that there’s a LF collab event, which is where phrobb- and LuisGomez are (representing ODL) (tbachman, 18:12:47)
    2. colindixon says CFP for ODL summit closed on Friday (tbachman, 18:13:01)
    3. colindixon says hackfest is coming up April 15-16 (tbachman, 18:13:19)
    4. alagalah says there was a hackfest/summit in India — colindixon says this was in last week’s meeting minutes as well (tbachman, 18:13:43)
    5. colindixon says it’s worth noting that voting is now open for the openstack talks (tbachman, 18:14:02)
    6. http://www.opendaylight.org/events/2015-04-22/opendaylight-forum-india-2015 ODL India Forum mentioned above (dfarrell07, 18:14:11)
    7. gzhao says SNBI finalized their release plan (tbachman, 18:15:32)
    8. VPN released their JJB (tbachman, 18:15:42)
    9. CAPWAP and one other said they would provide their release plans today (tbachman, 18:15:55)
    10. gzhao says defense4all and Maple haven’t provided a response yet (tbachman, 18:16:06)
    11. update — CAPWAP and PCMM said they would provide their release plans today (tbachman, 18:16:21)
    12. colindixon says Maple is still working out issues with Intellectual Property (tbachman, 18:16:34)
    13. ACTION: colindixon and gzhao to reach out to Maple and Defense4All (colindixon, 18:16:58)
    14. colindixon asks for the SR3 and SR4 dates (tbachman, 18:17:26)
    15. gzhao says they’ll present to TSC on March 26th, with release on March 30th for SR3 (tbachman, 18:17:39)
    16. colindixon points out these are tentative dates — those with objections should speak up (tbachman, 18:17:56)
    17. gzhao says the dates for SR4 are 7/16 to present to the TSC, and release them on 7/20 (tbachman, 18:18:37)
    18. colindixon asks TSC members if they’d like to vote on these dates now (tbachman, 18:19:10)
    19. ACTION: gzhao to e-mail release and tsc with those proposed dates and their interactions with the LIthium release plan so that we can get feedback and hopefully vote next week (colindixon, 18:20:18)
    20. catohornet says that Integration met for pre-M3, and is getting projects to get their system and job builders converted so that they’re ready for the release (tbachman, 18:21:36)
    21. colindixon asks what our status is with JJB migration (tbachman, 18:22:10)
    22. gzhao says there are 39 projects that have moved to JJB (tbachman, 18:22:35)
    23. gzhao says defense4all, maple, SDNi, plugin2oc, and OpFlex have yet to move to JJB (colindixon, 18:23:31)
    24. alagalah says that OpFlex is in discussions with tykeal_away to migrate — a bit trickier b/c of the nature of the project (tbachman, 18:24:18)
    25. edwarnicke says that SDNI has some C-based pieces, which presents challenges in migrating to JJB (tbachman, 18:24:31)

  3. Distributed LLDP with Auto Attach Capability creation review (dfarrell07, 18:25:12)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/images/f/fb/ODL_TSC_slides.pptx (Guest50305, 18:25:17)
    2. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Distributed_LLDP_with_Auto_Attach_Capability Project proposal wiki (dfarrell07, 18:25:22)
    3. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2015-January/000252.html Proposed on 1/30/2015 (dfarrell07, 18:25:33)
    4. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/images/f/fb/ODL_TSC_slides.pptx slides being presented for LLDP (regXboi, 18:25:42)
    5. Agenda: 4 slides; What is Auto attach, what does it solve, what changes to LLDP are proposed (tbachman, 18:27:11)
    6. group has submitted patches to openvswitch for the 2.4 release (tbachman, 18:27:36)
    7. Slide 2: what does Auto Attach (AA) solve? (tbachman, 18:28:49)
    8. Avaya said they found a lot of people were using PBB (provider backbone bridges) and SPB (shortest path bridging) in data centers to proivde beter virtual networks (colindixon, 18:30:20)
    9. ACTION: Guest50305 (brian) to add links to referenced standards as part of AA project proposal (colindixon, 18:33:06)
    10. Shortest Path Bridging is 802.1aq, now fully ratified into 802.1q, revision 14 (tbachman, 18:34:27)
    11. IS-IS is used as an L2 control plane (tbachman, 18:36:39)
    12. they are proposing to a way to manage LLDP on a per-port basis so that some ports in OVS can be managed using distributed LLDP while others can remiain (in the current manner) sending LLDP messages up to the controller (colindixon, 18:40:49)
    13. explains the text on slide 4 with diagram on slide 5 (colindixon, 18:41:29)
    14. auto-attach server on slide 5 is the same as the BEB on slide 2 (colindixon, 18:42:32)
    15. mohnish asks if the auto-attach server would live in the LLDP project (tbachman, 18:43:38)
    16. AA says they’re open to where it should live — in LLDP, in a separate project? (tbachman, 18:44:03)
    17. colindixon says there are projects that have various pieces — LLDP in openflowplugin, vswitch management in OVSDB, etc. (tbachman, 18:45:26)
    18. edwarnicke says he feels that it might make sense for it to be its own project (tbachman, 18:45:51)
    19. colindixon recommends reaching out to OVSDB project (tbachman, 18:46:27)
    20. colindixon says that network virtualization component is probably different from what’s currently being done in OVSDB, but also worth engaging that project to understand what’s there (tbachman, 18:47:27)
    21. edwarnicke says there are models coming for the OVSDB southbound (tbachman, 18:47:49)
    22. AA project says they have a working demo of what’s presented already (tbachman, 18:48:09)
    23. colindixon asks if AA has reached out to phrobb to do IPR (tbachman, 18:48:24)
    24. AA says they haven’t, but other TSC members note that that’s actually a next step, and is perfectly fine (tbachman, 18:48:50)
    25. jmedved asks what they’re using for their POC (tbachman, 18:49:42)
    26. AA says they’re using hydrogen (tbachman, 18:49:49)
    27. jmedved says they would need to refactor it to use the MD-SAL (tbachman, 18:49:59)
    28. regXboi raises flag that this is another project where “do no harm” has to be important, b/c it also touches the flow tables (tbachman, 18:50:47)
    29. regXboi asks if the AA project wants only one person as a committer on the project (tbachman, 18:51:41)
    30. colindixon says it’s good to have more than one committer on the project (tbachman, 18:51:54)
    31. edwarnicke says TSC doesn’t typically mandate the number of committers, but advises more than one committer for sake of sanity (tbachman, 18:52:30)
    32. alagalah asks if we can explain the difference between what a committer, contributor, and resources committed are (tbachman, 18:53:28)
    33. colindixon says that anyone with an ODL user ID can contribute (tbachman, 18:53:37)
    34. colindixon says that if you are a committer on a project, you have permission to merge patches onto the mainline branch, as well as manage things like jenkins jobs (tbachman, 18:54:18)
    35. colindixon says committers are also allowed to vote for certain elections (tbachman, 18:54:33)
    36. dlenrow says responsibilities include owing to the project to review and move patches (tbachman, 18:55:03)
    37. AA says Dennis Flynn is committer for OVS (tbachman, 18:56:12)
    38. regXboi asks if AA intends to participate in Lithium (tbachman, 18:57:34)
    39. AA says no — they won’t be participate in Lithium (tbachman, 18:57:47)
    40. colindixon recommends handling the vote to the mailing list (tbachman, 19:00:33)
    41. AGREED: Vote to move AA project into incubation will be done on the TSC mailing list (tbachman, 19:00:58)
    42. cookies (tbachman, 19:01:13)

  4. cookies (tbachman, 19:01:23)


Meeting ended at 19:01:27 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?)
  2. colindixon and TSC to elaborate on proper procedure for removal of committers from a project
  3. colindixon, zxiiro and others to coordinate figuring out how to set up opt-in/opt-out automatic version bump patches and tags
  4. colindixon to start a discussion around possible use cases as focus areas for lithium on the mailing list
  5. gzhao to ask SNBI if and when the expect to be caught up, M3?
  6. phrobb to hunt down projects to see if they would continue to support Helium (at least) until Lithium is released
  7. gzhao to follow up with projects that haven’t yet reported milestone statuses, colindixon and/or phrobb can help
  8. phrobb to reach out to Rob Sherwood about closing down net-virt-platform
  9. phrobb to reach out to plugin2oc, SDNi, and defense4all about JJB migration
  10. colindixon and gzhao to reach out to Maple and Defense4All
  11. gzhao to e-mail release and tsc with those proposed dates and their interactions with the LIthium release plan so that we can get feedback and hopefully vote next week
  12. Guest50305 (brian) to add links to referenced standards as part of AA project proposal


Action items, by person

  1. colindixon
    1. colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?)
    2. colindixon and TSC to elaborate on proper procedure for removal of committers from a project
    3. colindixon, zxiiro and others to coordinate figuring out how to set up opt-in/opt-out automatic version bump patches and tags
    4. colindixon to start a discussion around possible use cases as focus areas for lithium on the mailing list
    5. gzhao to follow up with projects that haven’t yet reported milestone statuses, colindixon and/or phrobb can help
    6. colindixon and gzhao to reach out to Maple and Defense4All
  2. Guest50305
    1. Guest50305 (brian) to add links to referenced standards as part of AA project proposal
  3. UNASSIGNED
    1. gzhao to ask SNBI if and when the expect to be caught up, M3?
    2. phrobb to hunt down projects to see if they would continue to support Helium (at least) until Lithium is released
    3. phrobb to reach out to Rob Sherwood about closing down net-virt-platform
    4. phrobb to reach out to plugin2oc, SDNi, and defense4all about JJB migration
    5. gzhao to e-mail release and tsc with those proposed dates and their interactions with the LIthium release plan so that we can get feedback and hopefully vote next week


People present (lines said)

  1. tbachman (107)
  2. colindixon (42)
  3. dfarrell07 (21)
  4. snoble (15)
  5. Guest50305 (14)
  6. regXboi (10)
  7. odl_meetbot (10)
  8. rovarga (8)
  9. alagalah (7)
  10. edwarnicke (6)
  11. dlenrow (3)
  12. jmedved (1)
  13. cdub (1)
  14. kwatsen (1)
  15. Youcef (1)
  16. mohnish (1)


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