#opendaylight-meeting: tsc

Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:17 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call and agenda bashing (colindixon, 17:00:25)
    1. mohnish anumala (mohnish, 17:00:30)
    2. colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:36)
    3. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda the agenda in it’s usual place (colindixon, 17:00:39)
    4. rovarga as jmedved's proxy (rovarga, 17:01:51)
    5. edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 17:02:17)
    6. regXboi (regXboi, 17:02:24)
    7. LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 17:02:41)
    8. https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-03-05-18.00.html the minutes from last time (colindixon, 17:02:43)
    9. Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:03:37)
    10. Chris Wright (not on phone yet) (cdub, 17:04:11)
    11. ACTION: colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?) (colindixon, 17:04:49)
    12. ttkacik for controller (ttkacik1, 17:05:27)
    13. ACTION: zxiiro will send mail about setting up opt-in/opt-out automatic version bump patches and tags this week (colindixon, 17:05:43)
    14. dlenrow (dlenrow, 17:05:59)
    15. ACTION: colindixon keep the thread on best practices alive (colindixon, 17:06:46)
    16. ACTION: colindixon to bring dates for stable release updates for Lithium to next week’s TSC meeting (colindixon, 17:07:16)

  2. events update (colindixon, 17:08:11)
    1. http://www.opendaylight.org/news/events << events (phrobb, 17:08:29)
    2. most immediate thing is the 4/15-4/16 hackfest, we currently only have 28 people registered (colindixon, 17:08:59)
    3. if you are planning to attend, please register (colindixon, 17:09:12)
    4. ODForum India on 4/22, OpenStack Summit Vancouver on 5/18, Open Networking Summit in June, OpenDaylight Summit in July (colindixon, 17:10:17)
    5. notifications for talks at the ODL Summit will go out in the next 48 hours (colindixon, 17:10:35)

  3. stable helium (regXboi, 17:11:22)
    1. gzhao gives update on stable Helium release (dfarrell07|sick, 17:12:06)
    2. no issues blocking cutting next stable helium release (SR3) on 3/15/2015 (regXboi, 17:12:37)
    3. plan is to have three days of testing for TSC review on 3/19/2015 (regXboi, 17:13:01)
    4. edwarnicke requests a good crisp email about SR3 plans to release@ mailing list (regXboi, 17:13:25)
    5. Discussion about when patches must be in by to be included in SR3 (dfarrell07|sick, 17:13:32)
    6. ACTION: gzhao to e-mail the release list with a precise time at which we will cut the SR3 test artifacts (colindixon, 17:13:33)
    7. colindixon suggests using a time/date countdown, to avoid confusion over time zones (dfarrell07|sick, 17:14:12)
    8. http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/create Colin suggests that we use this to be precise (colindixon, 17:14:22)
    9. colindixon notes many important patches for SR3, and the project needs to know when to have them in. colindixon suggests aim for Sunday/Monday UTC (phrobb, 17:15:10)

  4. Lithium (colindixon, 17:15:37)
    1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KPpO9LH539Vlcoa4RvLa6PPCdLifi5JD-ihRhlybqeo/edit#gid=1196332566 the spreadsheet tracking (colindixon, 17:16:23)
    2. gzhao gives updates on project statuses (dfarrell07|sick, 17:16:47)
    3. gzhao sent email to release subject [Action needed for various project] M3 status overdue for offset 1 projects and complete Single Feature Test (alagalah, 17:16:48)
    4. many projects are yellow for M3 offset one (6 projects out of 17) (colindixon, 17:16:58)
    5. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-March/001614.html <- gzhao's email (alagalah, 17:17:01)
    6. for Lithium, ALTO is behind since M2, MAPLE still held on IP issues, PCMM needs to respond on their release plan closure (phrobb, 17:17:17)
    7. we also have 5 offset 1 projects that haven’t reported their status yet (colindixon, 17:17:21)
    8. gzhao has sent emails to individual projects who either haven't reported status for by the designated M2 milestone (alagalah, 17:17:49)
    9. ACTION: phrobb to escalate/follow up with AAA (phrobb, 17:18:04)
    10. colindixon states that of the projects that are "not compliant" (alagalah editorial) , AAA is the one that concerns him the most (alagalah, 17:18:39)
    11. regXboi notes that not all project leads can edit that spreadsheet (regXboi, 17:18:47)
    12. due to other project's reliance (alagalah, 17:18:49)
    13. gzhao says he gives edit permission to project leads when/if they ask (colindixon, 17:20:01)
    14. gzhao points out that project leads who request access to the spreadsheet are always granted. (alagalah, 17:21:00)
    15. ACTION: gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release and tsc lists at each milestone (phrobb, 17:21:18)

  5. system integration and test (colindixon, 17:21:57)
    1. next TWS will have a Robot tutorial (phrobb, 17:22:34)
    2. LuisGomez says that we are very close to completely migrating system integraitn and tests to to JJB (colindixon, 17:22:46)
    3. next TWS (3/15/15) will be a tutorial on robot framework - all are encouraged to attend (regXboi, 17:22:55)
    4. outstanding issue with projects that pass single-feature test are still breaking integration testing (regXboi, 17:24:04)
    5. colindixon notes that we seem to have had some breaks in integration even from features that were tested with the signle feature test (colindixon, 17:24:10)
    6. the test can pass becaues of a warm m2 repo (even in our CI) and that can mean it still breaks in integration (colindixon, 17:25:04)
    7. ACTION: edwarnicke to open a bug for fixing warm cache issues in odlparent (colindixon, 17:26:54)
    8. edwarnicke and LuisGomez talk in some details about how other things can fail (colindixon, 17:28:20)
    9. ACTION: edwarnicke and LuisGomez to send out a description of warnings about feature and document them on the karaf step by step (colindixon, 17:28:51)
    10. At approx minute 25 of WebEx recording, edwarnicke describes in some detail some of the issues around features in pom.xml and dependencies (alagalah, 17:28:55)

  6. infrastructure (colindixon, 17:29:18)
    1. colindixon asks about odl-forge (regXboi, 17:29:33)
    2. tykeal is trying to make progress on ODLforge, but he’s been distracted by other (important) things (colindixon, 17:29:52)
    3. colindixon asks about jjb migration (regXboi, 17:30:10)
    4. zxiiro reports that is in the spreadsheet and there appear to be three leaf projects that aren't using jjb and have not been heard from them (regXboi, 17:31:45)
    5. edwarnicke asks for visibility into downstream merged jobs to catch downstream failures early (regXboi, 17:32:21)
    6. edwarnicke notes we need tracability from merge job to downstream affects (phrobb, 17:32:22)
    7. ACTION: phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 3 projects not yet in JJB: plugin2oc, sdninterfaceapp, defense4all (colindixon, 17:32:27)
    8. edwarnicke also points that we need to improve the feedback time on downstream failures on patch (regXboi, 17:33:00)
    9. edwarnicke asks for us to be mindful of patch / fix latency on tests (phrobb, 17:33:11)
    10. LuisGomez notes that we currently have the ability to track backward pretty easily in the new JJB, going forward isn’t as obvious (colindixon, 17:33:43)
    11. LuisGomez notes that distro is much faster removing the "compatible-with-all" and now there is much more parallel test runs given the new infra (phrobb, 17:34:52)
    12. ACTION: we need somebody to write up how to do the forward and backward tracing as well as characterizing the latency from when a merge triggers something and when we know if it broke/fixed anything (colindixon, 17:35:21)
    13. edwarnicke asks that we track what the latency time is so we can track any changes and if the time grows to the point of being a concern again (phrobb, 17:35:28)
    14. colindixon asks for volunteers to figure out the patch latency on the dashboard (phrobb, 17:37:16)
    15. ACTION: zxiiro and rovarga to work on tracking latency from merge to all CSIT (colindixon, 17:37:53)
    16. regXboi requests colindixon to bump use case discussion from future topics to intended topics for next week (regXboi, 17:37:58)
    17. https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2826 <- Bug for SingleFeatureTest coverage gap (edwarnicke, 17:38:14)

  7. communication with downstream projects (colindixon, 17:38:44)
    1. alagalah says that we put some time in to lessons learned after Helium and one of them was offsets that’s helped a lot (colindixon, 17:39:14)
    2. note: committer promotions skipped because project lead from aaa not in attendence (regXboi, 17:39:15)
    3. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-March/004815.html <--- Keith's email (alagalah, 17:39:43)

  8. security process (colindixon, 17:41:17)
    1. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002702.html security process proposal email (regXboi, 17:41:36)
    2. https://gist.github.com/dfj/a1fb9fc7ff6b335f81c4 proposal in markdown format (regXboi, 17:42:16)
    3. ACTION: TSC to review above link for a vote @ 3/19 meeting (regXboi, 17:42:31)
    4. ACTION: regXboi to translate google md doc to wikipage (regXboi, 17:43:35)

  9. coding best practices (colindixon, 17:45:28)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ODL_Coding_Guidelines Than created this merged document (colindixon, 17:45:38)
    2. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002696.html the mailing list thread (colindixon, 17:47:55)
    3. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Logging_Best_Practices (colindixon, 17:48:13)
    4. zxiiro notes that he has been adding functionality to checkstyle to include validating license headers (phrobb, 17:48:18)
    5. ACTION: zxiiro to group all the pages around best practices from here: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002696.html (colindixon, 17:49:27)

  10. project-wide dashboard (colindixon, 17:50:48)
    1. https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/ <- root jenkins page (regXboi, 17:51:22)
    2. regXboi says having played around with the root-level of releng is pretty darn close to the starting place is pretty darn close (colindixon, 17:51:42)
    3. we don’t have things like how long it takes to propogate down the dependency chain (colindixon, 17:53:03)
    4. colindixon asks what else we’re missing (colindixon, 17:53:14)
    5. regXboi says a tab for verify jobs would be ince (colindixon, 17:53:23)
    6. tykeal and zxiiro say that we can make a tab for any list of jobs for which we can write a regular expression to match (colindixon, 17:53:49)
    7. https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/l2switch/depgraph-view/ (colindixon, 17:54:36)
    8. https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/Verify-Jobs/ (tykeal, 17:55:42)
    9. ACTION: regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard (colindixon, 17:56:32)
    10. ACTION: regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard with an email to discuss (regXboi, 17:56:58)
    11. ACTION: colindixon to add use cases to the topic list for next week (colindixon, 17:57:26)

  11. OPNFV/OpenDaylight interactions meeting (colindixon, 17:57:41)
    1. dneary is sending out an invitation to everyone that should join (colindixon, 17:58:11)
    2. there was a very useful sync call a few weeks ago, and so they’re doing a set of them every few weeks (colindixon, 17:58:56)
    3. dneary notes that the next ODL/OPNFV interaction meeting will be next week, and he will be sending an email on such out. (phrobb, 17:59:29)
    4. The how-to to create the dependency tree (abhijitkumbhare, 17:59:42)

  12. cookies (phrobb, 17:59:43)


Meeting ended at 17:59:52 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?)
  2. zxiiro will send mail about setting up opt-in/opt-out automatic version bump patches and tags this week
  3. colindixon keep the thread on best practices alive
  4. colindixon to bring dates for stable release updates for Lithium to next week’s TSC meeting
  5. gzhao to e-mail the release list with a precise time at which we will cut the SR3 test artifacts
  6. phrobb to escalate/follow up with AAA
  7. gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release and tsc lists at each milestone
  8. edwarnicke to open a bug for fixing warm cache issues in odlparent
  9. edwarnicke and LuisGomez to send out a description of warnings about feature and document them on the karaf step by step
  10. phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 3 projects not yet in JJB: plugin2oc, sdninterfaceapp, defense4all
  11. we need somebody to write up how to do the forward and backward tracing as well as characterizing the latency from when a merge triggers something and when we know if it broke/fixed anything
  12. zxiiro and rovarga to work on tracking latency from merge to all CSIT
  13. TSC to review above link for a vote @ 3/19 meeting
  14. regXboi to translate google md doc to wikipage
  15. zxiiro to group all the pages around best practices from here: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002696.html
  16. regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard
  17. regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard with an email to discuss
  18. colindixon to add use cases to the topic list for next week


Action items, by person

  1. colindixon
    1. colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?)
    2. colindixon keep the thread on best practices alive
    3. colindixon to bring dates for stable release updates for Lithium to next week’s TSC meeting
    4. colindixon to add use cases to the topic list for next week
  2. edwarnicke
    1. edwarnicke to open a bug for fixing warm cache issues in odlparent
    2. edwarnicke and LuisGomez to send out a description of warnings about feature and document them on the karaf step by step
  3. gzhao
    1. gzhao to e-mail the release list with a precise time at which we will cut the SR3 test artifacts
    2. gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release and tsc lists at each milestone
  4. LuisGomez
    1. edwarnicke and LuisGomez to send out a description of warnings about feature and document them on the karaf step by step
  5. phrobb
    1. phrobb to escalate/follow up with AAA
    2. gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release and tsc lists at each milestone
    3. phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 3 projects not yet in JJB: plugin2oc, sdninterfaceapp, defense4all
  6. regXboi
    1. regXboi to translate google md doc to wikipage
    2. regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard
    3. regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard with an email to discuss
  7. rovarga
    1. zxiiro and rovarga to work on tracking latency from merge to all CSIT
  8. zxiiro
    1. zxiiro will send mail about setting up opt-in/opt-out automatic version bump patches and tags this week
    2. phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 3 projects not yet in JJB: plugin2oc, sdninterfaceapp, defense4all
    3. zxiiro and rovarga to work on tracking latency from merge to all CSIT
    4. zxiiro to group all the pages around best practices from here: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002696.html
  9. UNASSIGNED
    1. we need somebody to write up how to do the forward and backward tracing as well as characterizing the latency from when a merge triggers something and when we know if it broke/fixed anything
    2. TSC to review above link for a vote @ 3/19 meeting


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  3. alagalah (20)
  4. odl_meetbot (18)
  5. phrobb (17)
  6. rovarga (9)
  7. dfarrell07|sick (9)
  8. tykeal (8)
  9. snoble (7)
  10. edwarnicke (6)
  11. dneary (5)
  12. ttkacik1 (4)
  13. abhijitkumbhare (4)
  14. zxiiro (4)
  15. cdub (2)
  16. gzhao (1)
  17. tbachman (1)
  18. LuisGomez (1)
  19. ChrisPriceAB (1)
  20. mohnish (1)
  21. dlenrow (1)


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