17:01:36 <colindixon> #startmeeting tsc 17:01:36 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu May 7 17:01:36 2015 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 17:01:36 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:36 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 17:01:43 <colindixon> #topic roll call and agenda bashing 17:01:45 <colindixon> #info colindixon 17:01:57 <phrobb2> #info TSC Members please #info in 17:02:03 <colindixon> #chair ChrisPriceAB phrobb phrobb2 tbachman edwarnicke dfarrell07 17:02:03 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB colindixon dfarrell07 edwarnicke phrobb phrobb2 tbachman 17:02:11 * colindixon jumps on the webex 17:02:15 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price 17:02:20 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 for cdub and Red Hat 17:02:28 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda agenda in the usual place 17:02:49 <colindixon> #undo 17:02:49 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x19c1ed0> 17:02:57 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=30131#Agenda time-static agenda in it’s usual place 17:02:59 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez 17:03:02 * colindixon notes we should star doing that 17:03:29 <dfarrell07> ^^interesting (time-static) 17:04:04 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke 17:04:26 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-04-30-17.00.html meeting minutes from last week (for action items) 17:05:44 * ChrisPriceAB action it again :D 17:06:12 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen changed the scripts for performance to record at least 6 months of performance data 17:06:27 <colindixon> #actoin LuisGomez and tykeal and jamoluhrsen to work out retaining the performance metrics for as long as we can 17:06:56 <colindixon> #action LuisGomez and tykeal and jamoluhrsen to work out retaining the performance metrics for as long as we can 17:07:10 <tykeal> double action! 17:07:28 <colindixon> #action snoble and LuisGomez to connect and talk about trying to do some Ixia testing for Lithium 17:07:56 <colindixon> #topic events 17:08:11 <colindixon> #link http://www.opendaylight.org/news/events/ ODL events page 17:08:25 <colindixon> #info lots of people at NFV world congress, our mini-summit there is this afternoon 17:08:26 <dfarrell07> #info ODL Mini Summit is today at NFV World Congress 17:08:39 <dfarrell07> #info Dev Track for ONS closes tomorrow 17:08:46 <dfarrell07> #undo 17:08:46 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x1b71fd0> 17:08:47 <colindixon> thanks dfarrell07 17:08:49 <colindixon> lag :p 17:08:51 <dfarrell07> #info ODL Dev Track for ONS closes tomorrow 17:08:56 <colindixon> #undo 17:08:56 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x1b71110> 17:09:08 <colindixon> #info CFP for ODL Dev Track for ONS closes tomorrow 17:09:11 <dfarrell07> #info OpenStack Summit comming up, ODL stuff going on there 17:09:22 <dfarrell07> colindixon: thanks 17:09:34 <colindixon> #topic lithium 17:10:13 <colindixon> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KPpO9LH539Vlcoa4RvLa6PPCdLifi5JD-ihRhlybqeo/edit#gid=1196332566 the project status tracking status 17:10:14 <dfarrell07> I think gzhao is at NFV World Congress, which is why he's hard to hear 17:10:55 <colindixon> #info gzhao says that right now most things look good, we’ll know more next week when all projects hit M5, and his guess is that 4-5 projects will drop from the release sometime around there 17:11:25 <colindixon> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KPpO9LH539Vlcoa4RvLa6PPCdLifi5JD-ihRhlybqeo/edit#gid=676729675 blocking bugs for lithium, same sheet, different tab 17:11:37 <dfarrell07> colindixon: nothing to add 17:12:01 <dfarrell07> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Lithium_Blocking_Bugs Blocking Bugs wiki 17:12:28 <Youcef> #info Youcef Laribi 17:12:40 <dfarrell07> #info gzhao suggests that "lead" for blocking bugs should be the project lead by default, dfarrell07 agrees 17:13:41 <dfarrell07> #action zxiiro will talk to offset-1 projects about cutting their branches 17:13:50 <lori> ... and bunp their versions on master 17:13:51 <gzhao> zxiiro: do you plan to create JJB for offset2 sometime before next Thursday 17:13:58 <dfarrell07> #undo 17:13:58 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x19b3310> 17:14:03 <zxiiro> gzhao: yes 17:14:05 <dfarrell07> #action zxiiro will talk to offset-1 projects about cutting their branches and bump their versions 17:14:06 <lori> s/bunp/bump/ 17:14:11 <dfarrell07> lori: thanks 17:14:25 <zxiiro> #action zxiiro will create JJB for offset2 projects 17:14:28 <colindixon> #topic migration from helium to lithium 17:14:31 <jmedved> #info jmedved 17:14:36 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-May/003014.html the thread starting things 17:14:58 <gzhao> zxiiro: ok, let me trace those projects not done with cutting stable branch 17:15:57 <dfarrell07> #info colindixon describes various options for how to do migration 17:16:15 <dfarrell07> #info migration options could range from just-docs to auto-magic-script 17:18:13 <dfarrell07> some of our nicer deployment options (Puppet mod) would handle migrations nicely without too much work 17:20:48 <dfarrell07> this is ready: #agreed TSC encourages projects to document how to upgrade at a minimum, script (or similar) to upgrade would be nice. 17:21:44 * ChrisPriceAB agree with encouragement and discussion for Lithium. Can we set actual needs on Beryllium? 17:23:00 <colindixon> #info tykeal asks if config files are versioned, the answer is that yes they are, but that the helium and lithium versions are teh same most of the time and we don’t have tools 17:24:01 <colindixon> #info it seems like there is some common work aorund upgrading the karaf container and laying down new binaries, and the projects might need to do their own special logic to handle config files and maybe data 17:25:38 <rovarga> edwarnicke: that willingness may be the reason for oversubscription ;-) 17:25:45 * edwarnicke is working on it 17:25:58 <dfarrell07> #info technical discussion about upgrade approaches 17:26:01 * icbts still thinks ed is a machine ;) 17:26:06 <colindixon> #action colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade 17:26:50 <colindixon> #info jmedved suggests that they way to do it is in a cluster where you bring down an old node, bring up a new one and then focus on ingesting the old data 17:27:16 <colindixon> #info tony points out that migrating the data is going to be tricky 17:28:08 <colindixon> #topci system integration/test 17:28:16 <colindixon> #topic system integration and test 17:28:40 <colindixon> #info LuisGomez says they’re working to get more scalability, performance, etc. tests 17:29:10 <colindixon> #info LuisGomez asks if we can branch all together to get better tracking 17:29:11 <dfarrell07> #info LuisGomez points out that projects should likely branch at about the same time to keep CI healthy 17:30:12 <dfarrell07> #info This CI issue mentioned above is a result of jobs triggering from master, so once new branch is cut a set of jobs aren't triggered 17:31:25 <colindixon> #action colindixon to work with LuisGomez to understand the issue around triggering things across branches during releases and find fixes 17:32:03 <dfarrell07> #info Possible issue with blocking offset-0 projects by doing all cutting at the same time, rovarga points out 17:33:50 <dfarrell07> colindixon: reverify? 17:33:58 <tykeal> dfarrell07: diffent one 17:34:53 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-April/002044.html email saying that iit’s possible test a patch before merging 17:35:24 <dfarrell07> #info the keyword is `test-integration`, to save a click 17:36:00 <dfarrell07> #action LuisGomez and/or zxiiro will add that keyword to proper wiki 17:36:06 <colindixon> #action LuisGomez to migrate those instructions to this wiki page: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/RelEng/Builder 17:36:22 <colindixon> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/RelEng/Builder/Jenkins 17:36:35 <dfarrell07> #topic Infrastructure 17:37:12 <colindixon> #info Thanh is a minor god who fixes jenkins 17:37:20 <dfarrell07> #info zxiiro got a new plugin into Jenkis that should fix Zombie slave issue 17:37:33 <dfarrell07> "zombie slave" is pretty funny 17:37:39 <colindixon> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-May/003015.html 17:37:53 <tykeal> dfarrell07: not should, but has ;) 17:38:02 * dfarrell07 wonders if his proxy rights atm let him vote on that ;) 17:38:04 <tykeal> 1+ week and now needs to restart jenkins 17:38:15 <phrobb2> #topic Nemo Creation Review 17:38:20 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:NEMO proposal 17:38:23 <tykeal> s/now /now and no/ 17:38:29 <dfarrell07> #topic NEMO Creation Review 17:38:32 <dfarrell07> #undo 17:38:32 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x1b78b50> 17:38:34 <dfarrell07> sorry 17:38:49 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2015-March/000299.html e-mail asking for the proposal a long time ago 17:39:01 <dfarrell07> #info Proposed on 3/21/2015 17:40:30 <dfarrell07> We're giong to need usernames for committers 17:40:36 <colindixon> #action helen_chen to make sure the commiters have their ODL user ID 17:40:39 <colindixon> dfarrell07: yup 17:40:47 * tykeal was just going to say that 17:40:49 <dfarrell07> lol 17:41:02 * tykeal likes how the community looks out for him ;) 17:41:10 <dfarrell07> tykeal: we love you dude ;) 17:43:01 * dfarrell07 has a vote ready 17:45:04 <colindixon> jmedved, dfarrell07 (for cdub), dlenrow, Youcef, can you vote on makin Anil a committer on OVSDB? 17:45:12 <colindixon> so I don’t have to ask for a vote here 17:45:17 <colindixon> it’s on the maling list 17:45:25 <colindixon> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-May/003015.html 17:45:26 <dfarrell07> colindixon: yeah, as long as my proxy carries over 17:45:37 <colindixon> for this hour, I say yes :-) 17:46:53 <dfarrell07> colindixon: cool, done :) 17:47:30 <dfarrell07> helen_chen: we hear you :) 17:48:22 <colindixon> jmedved, dlenrow, and Youcef, can you vote? 17:50:34 <dfarrell07> helen_chen: 17:50:47 <ChrisPriceAB> think dlenrow is not here today. 17:50:49 <dfarrell07> helen_chen: even more so, *almost everyone* gets committer IDs wrong 17:52:54 <colindixon> I know dlenrow didn’t #info in, but I was hoping he might be paying attention here despite that 17:53:34 <ChrisPriceAB> think he is unavailable, is generally unavailable today 17:54:38 <phrobb2> #startvote Shall the TSC approve the NEMO project to enter the incubation lifecycle state? -1, 0, +1 17:54:38 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the NEMO project to enter the incubation lifecycle state? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:54:38 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:54:38 <ChrisPriceAB> ChrisPriceab asked a question and got a good answer 17:55:30 <tykeal> lol 17:55:31 <colindixon> #vote +1 17:55:47 <dfarrell07> #vote +1 17:55:56 <Youcef> #vote +1 17:55:57 <tykeal> it's a good thing I'm not video ;) you would find me laughing very hard ;) 17:56:04 <dfarrell07> LuisGomez 17:56:06 <edwarnicke> #vote +1 17:56:09 <ChrisPriceAB> '#vote +1 17:56:15 * ChrisPriceAB oops 17:56:18 <LuisGomez> #vote +1 17:56:19 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1 17:56:27 * ChrisPriceAB :P 17:56:28 <alagalah> Nervous tic 17:56:40 * ChrisPriceAB just going on record 17:56:41 <dfarrell07> jmedved 17:56:56 <dfarrell07> no, it's 6 17:57:05 <dfarrell07> ahh 17:57:11 <phrobb2> #endvote 17:57:11 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the NEMO project to enter the incubation lifecycle state?" Results are 17:57:11 <odl_meetbot> +1 (6): dfarrell07, LuisGomez, ChrisPriceAB, edwarnicke, colindixon, Youcef 17:57:31 <dfarrell07> helen_chen: congrats! :D 17:57:36 <phrobb2> #agreed NEMO has entered the incubation lifecycle state 17:57:57 <colindixon> #topic beryllium release planning and other things 17:58:06 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-May/002985.html active, very good thread on the topic 17:58:45 <dfarrell07> I can attend /me isn't going 17:58:46 <colindixon> #topic TSC meeting during the OpenStack summit 17:58:51 <ChrisPriceAB> Ed wants a room! 17:59:00 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-May/003044.html vote on whether you want to have the TSC meeting during OpenStack 17:59:05 * zxiiro will be at OpenStack Summit 17:59:08 <colindixon> #action phrobb2 to see if we can find a room 17:59:11 * tykeal will not be 17:59:24 * ChrisPriceAB can I # action Phil, get a room? 17:59:27 <dfarrell07> colindixon: rocks! <1 hr! 17:59:33 <odl-casey> :) 17:59:49 <colindixon> #topic cookies 17:59:57 <tykeal> #link http://sweetsugarbelle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/5682713842_c918c4904c_b.jpg <- cookies in honor of recent Cinco de Mayo 18:00:02 * phrobb2 makes mental note to not tell ChrisPriceAB where the room will be... 18:00:05 <colindixon> #endmeeting