#opendaylight-meeting: tsc

Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:12 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. agenda bashing and roll call (colindixon, 17:00:18)
    1. colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:27)
    2. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=37287#Agenda the agend in it's usual plce (colindixon, 17:00:34)
    3. https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-10-01-16.59.html last week's meeting minutes (colindixon, 17:01:19)
    4. ACTION: colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade from Helium to Lithium (for SR3) https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3160 (colindixon, 17:01:37)
    5. ACTION: colindixon to reach out to the advisory gorup for input on Boron (colindixon, 17:01:55)
    6. Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 17:02:09)
    7. edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 17:03:05)
    8. Chris Price (for him since I undid it) (colindixon, 17:03:08)
    9. mohnish anumala (mohnish_, 17:03:12)

  2. TSC at-large Elections (colindixon, 17:06:10)
    1. colindixon describes the Board meeting held last night. Much discussion on the vote for the (phrobb, 17:07:27)
    2. LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 17:07:36)
    3. The Board felt that the waver was going to be approved indef if we don't come up with a better solution (dfarrell07, 17:08:11)
    4. waiver to allow Platinum designates to remain on TSC if/when other employees from the same company join the TSC (phrobb, 17:08:20)
    5. edwarnicke asks were any thoughts from the Board given? (phrobb, 17:09:05)
    6. colindixon notes that the Board felt that as long as platinum designates exist, the waiver will be needed. So finding ways to get rid of Platinum designates would be helpful (phrobb, 17:09:53)
    7. edwarnicke asks do we have a sense of what a "minimal viable size" for the TSC?... the answer is "no" a minimum size was not discussed (phrobb, 17:10:26)
    8. colindixon and edwarnicke not that "2 is too small and 18 is too big" (phrobb, 17:11:10)
    9. Phil or Neela will launch a thread to discuss this and possibly form a workgroup made up from Board and TSC members (phrobb, 17:12:29)
    10. Delaying the election process by 30 days doesn't cause a legal problem, says legal people (dfarrell07, 17:12:36)

  3. events (colindixon, 17:13:56)
    1. https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events the events page as usual (colindixon, 17:14:13)
    2. SDN OF world congress in dusseldorf next week (colindixon, 17:14:26)
    3. hackfest near SF on 11/9 and 11/10, currently have 72 registered people, maxes out a 130, so register (colindixon, 17:15:10)
    4. https://wiki.mef.net/display/LH/MEF+LSO+Hackathon LSO hacakathon in Dallas on 11/16 (colindixon, 17:15:31)
    5. http://regonline.com/ODLHackfest2015 Hackfest reg site (dfarrell07, 17:15:32)

  4. Beryllum (colindixon, 17:15:53)
    1. we have 5 outstanding M3 readouts: l2swich, neutron, snmp, snmp4sdn, and yang-push (colindixon, 17:16:32)
    2. regXboi (ryant moats) notes that the neutron delay was because of other fires from upstream hurting them (colindixon, 17:17:04)
    3. anipbu is noting that we have started removing projects from beryllium from auto-release when they are blocking progress in addition to notifiying them of the issue (colindixon, 17:18:52)
    4. edwarnicke asks if we're removing projects from integration/distribution as well because it will fail to build if artifacts it dpeends on aren't built as part autorelese (colindixon, 17:19:32)
    5. colindixon notes that breaking autorelease should be similar to projects as if they couldn't run mvn and should treat it as such when helping out to fix things (colindixon, 17:21:42)
    6. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Current_Weather_Report external version upgrades are coming over time, look at weather here for more information (colindixon, 17:22:45)
    7. regXboi begs people to test everything first, and he notes that Eclipse 2.6.0 persistence broke things (colindixon, 17:23:20)
    8. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hci5TMUPyB6PX8Al-fwfVqvs5SQVa2wZLja_7rKWN6o/edit#gid=1314869162 (anipbu, 17:23:23)
    9. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hci5TMUPyB6PX8Al-fwfVqvs5SQVa2wZLja_7rKWN6o/edit#gid=1314869162 anipbu notes that Steven has been building locally to see how patches affect all projects for external dependencies (colindixon, 17:24:00)
    10. edwarnicke asks if we have a way to test this automatically, colindixon says we do for single patches (colindixon, 17:24:38)
    11. https://nexus.opendaylight.org/content/sites/site/org.opendaylight.releng.builder/master/jenkins.html#Patch_Test_Job this works for single patches, but this doesn't work for parten poms around odlparent since parent poms are included at build time, not assembly time (colindixon, 17:25:45)
    12. rovarga says that we could move the odlparent dependency managment to an artifacts-style pom which could then be imported into other proejcts, this would mean that we could change versions at assembly time, not build time, which would allow the patch test job to work (but not for properties) (colindixon, 17:28:31)
    13. for what it's worth if you get old versions if you pull in external bundles by version in karaf features.xml, instead odlparent could publish them as features as well (colindixon, 17:29:51)
    14. ACTION: anipbu to work with others (stephen kitt?) to see if we can get this done, move odlparent dependency managment to an artifacts pom, move away from odlparent properties, and make third party bundles features in odlparent (colindixon, 17:32:30)
    15. regXboi asks when we push go for an upgrade based on anipbu's spreadsheet above (colindixon, 17:35:23)
    16. anipbu says that all projects with breakages are contacted and when to proceed is based on people's responses (colindixon, 17:38:48)
    17. LuisGomez asks what about projects with not enough system tests (colindixon, 17:38:54)
    18. LuisGomez asks if we need to get all projects to vote +1 on a new patche to merge it, colindixon says that with 50 projects and the numer of external versions we need to ugrade, we don't have time to take a week to collect feedback from each project (colindixon, 17:40:28)
    19. rovarga notes that the changes to odlparent are likely to have to wait until Boron because offset 0 M4 is a week from now (colindixon, 17:42:44)
    20. regXboi asks if we should have a designed time between releases to line up the new build chains and things like like that before the major development happens (colindixon, 17:43:23)

  5. Isaku Yamahata to committer for Neutron Northbound (colindixon, 17:44:52)
    1. https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/project:neutron patch sets (colindixon, 17:45:17)
    2. he is #2 committer in terms of patch sets in last 90 days and has been handling a lot of testing and bug fixing (colindixon, 17:45:39)
    3. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC confirm Isaku Yamahata as a committer for Neutron Northbound?" Results are, +1: 7 (colindixon, 17:46:52)

  6. Lithium-SR2 (colindixon, 17:47:05)
    1. we are still waiting on the controller team to sign off that the test failures are non-blocking (colindixon, 17:47:22)
    2. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ktL11ElNdf4D3RUeRNUd8SPnYO0to0DxzSZGst0KdMQ/edit#gid=599953319 (anipbu, 17:48:03)
    3. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ktL11ElNdf4D3RUeRNUd8SPnYO0to0DxzSZGst0KdMQ/edit#gid=599953319 (jamoluhrsen, 17:48:05)
    4. tom pantelis is looking at the clustering ones, and ttkacik is looking at teh netconf one (colindixon, 17:49:32)
    5. LuisGomez says the clustering ones aren't regressions (colindixon, 17:50:08)
    6. LuisGomez beileves that the netconf one is also not a regression (colindixon, 17:50:18)
    7. ttkacik says that it looks like we have conflicts related to open ports (in this case it looks line oneM2M was binding to a port in use) in the NETCONF failures (colindixon, 17:53:14)
    8. ACTION: anipbu to talk to ttkacik to for help with figuring out which projects are conflicting with prots and try to resolve (or at least document) (colindixon, 17:54:17)
    9. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC approve the Lithium-SR2 release using the artifacts tested as described in anipbu's spreadsheet linked above?" Results are, +1: 6 (colindixon, 17:57:32)
    10. AGREED: we will ship the LIthium-SR2 artifacts (colindixon, 17:57:46)
    11. ACTION: anipbu to get tykeal_away the staging repo number, and talk with zxiiro to get the versions bumped (colindixon, 17:58:19)

  7. Beryllium branch cutting (colindixon, 17:58:29)
    1. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-September/003879.html the discussion (colindixon, 17:58:46)
    2. this needs to be decided by next week (colindixon, 17:58:58)
    3. colindixon says that he'd like to see us cut all at once at offset 2 M5, which would be 12/17/2015, he knows it causes some people pain, but that it tends to cause pain for those who can bear it and will risk less breakage in offset 1 and offset 2 projects (colindixon, 18:01:21)
    4. rovarga notes that will effectively steal 5 weeks of development time from the offset 0 projects (colindixon, 18:03:36)

  8. cookies (colindixon, 18:04:56)


Meeting ended at 18:05:28 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade from Helium to Lithium (for SR3) https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3160
  2. colindixon to reach out to the advisory gorup for input on Boron
  3. anipbu to work with others (stephen kitt?) to see if we can get this done, move odlparent dependency managment to an artifacts pom, move away from odlparent properties, and make third party bundles features in odlparent
  4. anipbu to talk to ttkacik to for help with figuring out which projects are conflicting with prots and try to resolve (or at least document)
  5. anipbu to get tykeal_away the staging repo number, and talk with zxiiro to get the versions bumped


Action items, by person

  1. anipbu
    1. anipbu to work with others (stephen kitt?) to see if we can get this done, move odlparent dependency managment to an artifacts pom, move away from odlparent properties, and make third party bundles features in odlparent
    2. anipbu to talk to ttkacik to for help with figuring out which projects are conflicting with prots and try to resolve (or at least document)
    3. anipbu to get tykeal_away the staging repo number, and talk with zxiiro to get the versions bumped
  2. colindixon
    1. colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade from Helium to Lithium (for SR3) https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3160
    2. colindixon to reach out to the advisory gorup for input on Boron


People present (lines said)

  1. colindixon (86)
  2. odl_meetbot (22)
  3. ChrisPriceAB (13)
  4. dfarrell07 (12)
  5. edwarnicke (8)
  6. phrobb (7)
  7. anipbu (4)
  8. LuisGomez (3)
  9. KLuehrs (3)
  10. jmedved (2)
  11. mohnish_ (2)
  12. regXboi (1)
  13. abhijitkumbhare (1)
  14. jamoluhrsen (1)


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